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Washington -- A single Holstein on a Washington state farm has tested positive for mad cow disease, marking the disease's first suspected appearance in the United States, the Bush administration announced Tuesday as it assured Americans their food is safe. . . .

Veneman said the Holstein, which could not move on its own, was found at a farm in Mabton, Wash., about 40 miles southeast of Yakima, and tested preliminarily positive for the brain-wasting illness on Dec. 9. Parts of the cow that would be infected -- the brain, the spinal cord and the lower part of the small intestine -- were removed before the animal went to a meat processing plant. . . .

Veneman said the Agriculture Department has had safeguards in place since 1990 to check for mad cow disease and 20,526 cows had been tested in 2003 in the United States.

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The USA is saying the same thing that Canada said in that it is an isolated case, however, the USA still closed its borders to Canadian exports in the same way that Canada will now be closing its borders to USA exports.

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The sick animal came from a farm in Mabton, Washington, about 40 miles southeast of Yakima. It was a so-called "downer" animal, meaning it was unable to walk when it reached the slaughterhouse, which under USDA rules triggers automatic testing.

Congress considered but rejected legislation this year that would have banned the use of any "downed animal" parts for human consumption.

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Hmmmmm, one might have guessed differently. As each of your 4 post on this subject appear to somehow be either comparing the U.S. vs. Canada...or remarking about internal American politics. (leaving un-said, comparable political decisions made by Canada)

The Americaphobia you demonstrate IMO is quite palatable (but then, that's so TYPICALLY Canadian!)

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“Regardless of the cause, since first identified in the 1980s CSFAN reports that as of May 2003 there have been in total approximately 139 cases of vCJD worldwide, with only 1 case in 2000. Diarrhea diseases, in contrast, cause 2.2 million deaths every year.

Those fretting about mad cow probably think nothing of taking a bath (which kills 320 Americans a year), walking downstairs (which kills 1,421 Americans annually) or driving their car (which kills 42,000 of us each year). Our odds of getting vCJD from eating British beef, said the CDC, is about one in ten billion

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If it's biologically implausible for humans to get mad cow from beef, why the alarm? "Because you don't let the facts get in the way of a good story," said Venter. "The mad cow disease story would be a non-story in the U.S. if it were not for the propaganda efforts of vegetarian groups," said the National Council Against Health Fraud. "EarthSave, PETA, PCRM, and the Seventh-day Adventist website have seized upon the opportunity to frighten people into behaving in ways they find ideologically delightful."


We can be assured of one thing when it comes to the safety of our food: media hysteria will be inversely proportional to actual risks.

Alfred Hitchcock knew a shadowy figure was far more terrifying than a well-lit known villain. Nothing haunts us more than our own imaginations, said Frank Furedi, sociologist at the University of Kent in Canterbury and author of The Culture of Fear (Continuum Publishing, 2002). Likewise today's newspapers and television networks have found that fictitious, sensationalized, "what-if?" scares of hidden dangers lurking in our foods make the juiciest stories guaranteed to capture audiences and sell papers.

The mania surrounding mad cow is already proving this point.
Since one aged dairy cow in Washington state was discovered last week to have bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), or "mad cow disease," there's been an explosion of news stories panicking about the safety of our beef.

What is known is that BSE is not contagious and cows cannot give it to each other or other animals just by living together. Nor can they give it to people. There's never been a single case. Despite that fact, 4.5 million innocent healthy cows were destroyed in England during the peak of their mad cow hysteria, devastating beef and dairy farms and creating an environmental disaster in disposing of all those dead carcasses. (Who needs terrorists when citizens can destroy their own food system?) With hope, reason will prevail, as it has in Canada since their BSE case last May, and the unnecessary mass slaughter of healthy animals won't be repeated.

Cows with BSE act like animals and people with other spongiform encephalopathies -- they lose muscle control, waste away and die. Creutzfeld-Jacobs Disease (CJD), one of the human spongiform encephalopathies, occurs spontaneously in about 1 in a million people, according to the World Health Organization. It appears to have a genetic component 5 to 10% of the time, with a small percentage iatrogenic. CJD is unrelated to mad cow as evidenced by the fact it occurs in England about the same frequency as the rest of the world, reports the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and APHIS. CJD has been around a long, long time -- long before mad cow ever hit the news, according to Konrad Eugster, MD, executive director of the Texas Veterinary Medical Diagnostic Laboratory at Texas A&M University.

In light of British panic over mad cow, their Spongiform Encephalopathy Advisory Committee has been closely studying and monitoring these diseases since 1990. On March 20, 1996 it noted 10 cases of human CJD that occurred in younger people and lasted longer than typically seen. Besides the fact that most variant-CJD victims had eaten beef at some time -- although no one had eaten brain tissue and one of the ten patients had been a vegetarian since 1991 -- they could find no scientific evidence linking BSE and vCJD.

That didn't stop vCJD from being labeled the human form of mad cow. A popular orthodoxy has evolved, fueled by media frenzy, that meat contaminated with the brain prions of mad cows could give people the disease. "It's all been much ado about nothing," said Scott C. Ratzan, director of the Emerson College/Tufts University School of Medicine Program in Health Communications and editor of the Journal of Health Communications. "Based on available scientific evidence, we can be virtually certain that mad cow disease poses no threat to humans."

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There are those who ought to be awake to the danger of meat eating, who are still eating the flesh of animals

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Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. Romans 13:14

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A legal religion is insufficient to bring the soul into harmony with God. The hard, rigid orthodoxy of the Pharisees, destitute of contrition, tenderness, or love, was only a stumbling block to sinners. They were like the salt that had lost its savor; for their influence had no power to preserve the world from corruption. The only true faith is that which "worketh by love" (Galatians 5:6) to purify the soul. It is as leaven that transforms the character.Thoughts From the Mount of Blessing, page 53, paragraph 2

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I do not mean this as being argumentative................ I have no quarrel with you eating meat if you like,

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I DON'T, I'm a VEGIN, and one thing I really DON'T LIKE is dead cow! (unless I go to Seattle or Victoria B.C. on a visit, then I'm a seafood nut .........I hope no one here has the stupidity to suggest that Christ didn't eat FISH!)

I just get a tad TIRED when someone uses BAD SCIENCE, QUOTES OUT OF CONTEXT, to come up with BAD THEOLOGY, and make things into SINS.....when they have NO SCRIPTURAL or SOP basis for doing so!

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A final statement about Sister White's counsel on meat eating. Neither she nor the Seventh-day Adventist church have made meat eating a moral issue involving sin. In other words, to eat it per se does not involve an act of sin; but I think we need to remind outselves that with the additional light available to Seventh-day Adventists and the additional knowledge of the contamination of meat, etc., it certainly would be a sin for me to eat it, and probably for most of our people who have this knowledge. I would not call meat eating a sin for anyone, but I would call it a sin for myself, because of my convictions about its affect on the body.

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Great publicity for Seventh Day Adventist here in the Baltimore Sun,

Better then spouting off BAD SCIENCE.....BTW did any of you notice that it's TWICE as likely to kill you in the United States in taking a bath in a bathtub...then eating DEAD COW and geting CJD?


Sportsmen enjoy rare Sunday of deer hunting
One-day reprieve granted, lifting state ban imposed during the Colonial era

Baltimore Sun
Chris Guy
Published on December 1, 2003
© 2003- The Baltimore Sun

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WITTMAN (Md.) -- Michael Spencer and his 16-year-old son, Sean, weren't looking to make history when they drove down to the Eastern Shore from their Montgomery County home yesterday. But if the first Sunday of deer hunting in Maryland in 280 years was designed for anyone, it seemed perfect for them.

As Seventh-day Adventists, who celebrate the Sabbath on Saturdays, the Spencers, who live in Silver Spring, went to church on the opening day of deer season. This year though, like thousands of other hunters, they got in weekend shooting by taking advantage of a one-day reprieve from a state law that has banned Sunday hunting since the Colonial era.

"Ordinarily, we'd have to hunt on a weekday," said the elder Spencer, who stopped for breakfast at Wittman's Market in this Talbot County crossroads. "I bought a share of a lease to hunt on some private property down here this year, so this was ideal. It's really a great opportunity for us to come down and do something together."

The change in rules, sought for years by sportsmen, was approved by state lawmakers last spring.

For the Rev. Robert Kirkley, a Methodist minister since 1952 and an avid hunter for nearly 60 years, the Sunday hunting ban represented the last vestige of Maryland's blue law restrictions on Sunday activities, rules that were all but eliminated in the 1980s. Kirkley was preaching yesterday, after spending all day Saturday in an unsuccessful attempt to bag a deer.

"I think it's an antiquated idea," said Kirkley, who at age 74 serves three small congregations in rural Dorchester County. "I think it discriminates against anyone who doesn't observe the Sabbath on Sunday. Everybody else is allowed to pursue their hobby -- fishing, boating, golf, whatever -- on Sundays. Why not hunters?"

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KENNEWICK, Wash. -- Fallout from the mad cow scare in Washington state has hit the potato industry, with more than $500,000 worth of frozen French fries -- prefried in beef tallow -- held in limbo at ports.

The delay raises concerns that other exports containing beef products could be affected by the bans countries have imposed on U.S. beef because of mad cow disease.

French fries and other potato products are prefried in beef tallow or vegetable oil by the manufacturer before they are frozen and shipped. They are then fried again before being served.

Most products fried in beef tallow are exported, while vegetable oil is used domestically, said Pat Boss, executive director of the Washington State Potato Commission.

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Thank you John, that is EXACTLY the point I've been trying to make all along!!!!!!

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You will remember, J. R., that when Ellen White first became an SDA christian, she ate not just clean meat, but unclean meat. God showed her in time when it was better for her to leave off this kind of diet. And it benefitted her and she steadily went forward rather than backward in her spiritual experiences.

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Actually her request of her DIL Mary, for Herring and Oysters was a full 25 years AFTER her vision on "health Reform!" (1857) As far as God "showing her." it was a Roman Catholic woman who took her to task for eating the flesh of animals, in the 1890's before she FINALLY gave up flesh eating, long AFTER she told others to do so, and claimed to have done so! I simply think we need to keep certain claims in perspective and FACTUAL

As I've said before. It's clear that Christ ate FISH.....And it is ONLY extra biblical suggestions that it is unwise to eat FISH. I think that if we're to slyly suggest that those who eat fish, or red meat will not be in heaven, That words to that effect should come from the BIBLE, and not from elsewhere! And since the Bible makes absolutely NO SUGGESTION that FISH are somehow sinful to eat, leading to one's utter damnation in hell. Anyone "Judging" another, for eating "FISH", even by sly innuendo (or quote) had better review the verse about judging others!!!!!!

Frankly I'll stick with the FISH, although not the Oysters (ever liked them anyway!) that our prophet Mrs. Ellen White continued to eat a FULL 25 years AFTER receiving her vision on health! They are, BTW quite delicious...Fish that is

FWIW…I’ve thrown out wheat, rice, crackers and apples that ALSO were wormy…….Although it seems rather silly to suggest that since one finds WORMS in organic foodstuffs, we ought to cease eating that also! Perhaps we should also cease eating breakfast cereals too, as there have been cases of sever rodent infestations known in grain elevators. e.g. some of the anecdotal “stories” about contamination in various food factories doesn’t prove anything, other then that or this particular factory (INCLUDING GRAIN/BREAKFAST CEREALS) had a hygiene problem!

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FARGO - North Dakota State University's Foundation Seed-stocks Program has been contaminated with genetically modified crops and cannot be trusted to segregate GM and non-GM wheat seed, a group critical of genetically modified crops said.

Theresa Podoll, executive director of the Northern Plains Sustainable Agriculture Society, sent out a news release Monday, saying NDSU's non-GM, Natto-type soybeans planted in 2002 may have been contaminated with GM beans.

Natto beans are specialty soybeans destined for premium food grade markets in Japan, typically unwelcoming to genetically modified products.

Podoll's group has been a strong opponent of commercialization of GM wheat, which also would have to be marketed to some countries and buyers who don't want it.

NDSU officials acknowledge a problem occurred but say it was properly handled.
Rogue seeds

Two lots of non-GM Natto beans were found contaminated with Monsanto's Roundup Ready soybean genetics, Podoll said.

NDSU officials say that sufficient steps have been taken to minimize the problem and avoid repeating it.

"In soybeans, we make every effort to prevent contamination and - if it occurs - we correct it," said M. Dale Williams, director of NDSU Foundation Seedstocks.

"Roundup Ready are two different animals," Williams said. "Roundup Ready soybeans are not regulated. Small amounts of it, or tolerances of amounts, are allowed in most markets.

It's not approached with the same amount of diligence as Roundup Ready wheat."
The soybean contamination occurred in the winter of 2000 when the Natto beans were planted in Chile for seed increase.

The seeds then were harvested and shipped to North Dakota in 2001 and planted at

NDSU's Agronomy Seed Farm near Casselton, N.D. Those fields produced some off-type plants, but GMO was not suspected, Williams said. Soybeans contaminated

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Manuscript Release No. 852: The Development of Adventist Thinking on, page 2, paragraph 3
ONCE WHEN ELLEN WHITE WAS ILL, HER SON, W. C. WHITE, REPORTS THAT SHE WAS ENCOURAGED TO DRINK A LITTLE OYSTER BROTH TO SETTLE HER STOMACH. SHE IS SAID TO HAVE TRIED A SPOONFUL OR TWO, BUT THEN REFUSED THE REST. THERE IS HOWEVER, EVIDENCE THAT AT ONE POINT IN HER LIFE MRS. WHITE MOST LIKELY ATE SOME OYSTERS. IN 1882, WHEN SHE WAS LIVING AT HEALDSBURG, CALIFORNIA, SHE WROTE A LETTER TO HER DAUGHTER-IN-LAW, MARY KELSEY WHITE, IN OAKLAND, IN WHICH SHE MADE THE FOLLOWING REQUEST: ["Mary, if you can get me a good box of herrings, fresh ones, please do so. These last ones that Willie got are bitter and old. If you can buy cans, say, half a dozen cans, of good tomatoes, please do so. We shall need them. If you can get a few cans of good oysters, get them."]

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In 1895 she noted, "I have never felt that it was my duty to say that no one should taste of meat under any circumstances. To say this . . . would be carrying matters to extremes I have never felt that it was my duty to make sweeping assertions. What I have said I have said under a sense of duty, but I have been guarded in my statements, because I did not want to give occasion for anyone to be conscience for another" (Counsels on Diet and Foods, pp.462, 463).

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I have a large family which often numbers sixteen. In it there are men who work at the plow, and who fell trees. These have most vigorous exercise, but not a particle of the flesh of animal is placed on our table. Meat has not been used by us since the Brighton Campmeeting. It was not my purpose to have it on my table at any time, but urgent pleas were made that such an one was unable to eat this or that, and that their stomach could take care of meat better than it could anything else. Then I was enticed to place it on my table. The use of cheese began to creep in, because some liked cheese; but I soon controlled that. But when the selfishness of taking lives of animals to gratify a perverted appetite was presented to me by a Catholic woman, kneeling at my feet, I felt ashamed and distressed. I saw it in a new light, and I said, I will no longer patronize the butcher; I will not have the flesh of corpses on my table. http://www.egwtext.whiteestate.org/cgi-bin/egw2html?C=165730102&K=112334012010414638&M=P

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Are you saying that the various WORMS, RAT and MICE parts that are found in my breakfast cereals from Kellogg’s or Sunbelt (McKee's...SDA) are OK as protein, as their from VEGAN (SDA) WORMS, RATS, & MICE?