Sea turns to blood...

Posted By: Rick H

Sea turns to blood... - 10/09/18 04:21 PM

When we were in school long ago, one of the teachers took us out to the ocean in his boat, and showed us a strange phenomenon, red tide. He told us this is what will happen when the sea turns to blood, I brushed it off at the time but now we have both coasts of Florida with red tide killing everything in the sea and the canals have filled with green gunk to a level I have never seen in all my years....what is happening..?

Revelation 16:3

And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLV27fEPdHY Florida's toxic red tide is a perfect storm for the Gulf Coast.
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 10/09/18 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Rick H
When we were in school long ago, one of the teachers took us out to the ocean in his boat, and showed us a strange phenomenon, red tide. He told us this is what will happen when the sea turns to blood, I brushed it off at the time but now we have both coasts of Florida with red tide killing everything in the sea and the canals have filled with green gunk to a level I have never seen in all my years....what is happening..?

Revelation 16:3

And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLV27fEPdHY Florida's toxic red tide is a perfect storm for the Gulf Coast.

You can consider any world event and, with dread and alarm in your voice, slap on a quote from the book of Revelation. People find conspiracies intriguing. But think for a while about what 16:3 is really saying: "the second angel poured out his vial ..." In other words, the sea becomes blood, NOT BY NATURAL EXPLAINABLE PHENOMENA, but by the direct act of God.

It took Aaron, at the behest of Moses on behalf of God, to deliberately put his rod into the Nile for the water to become like blood. Therefore, 16:3 would ONLY be fulfilled when a man of God says that his actions would surely result in some consequence, he does it and behold, the consequence!

The plagues of Revelation are not about waking up one morning, looking at some youtubes, seeing some dead fish, and running out of your house through the streets, crying aloud, "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

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Posted By: kland

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 10/10/18 01:43 AM

Blood of a dead man is algae?

The end is NOT!
Hurricane Michael is cleaning out the red tides.
Posted By: Rick H

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 10/10/18 03:16 PM

Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Rick H
When we were in school long ago, one of the teachers took us out to the ocean in his boat, and showed us a strange phenomenon, red tide. He told us this is what will happen when the sea turns to blood, I brushed it off at the time but now we have both coasts of Florida with red tide killing everything in the sea and the canals have filled with green gunk to a level I have never seen in all my years....what is happening..?

Revelation 16:3

And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLV27fEPdHY Florida's toxic red tide is a perfect storm for the Gulf Coast.

You can consider any world event and, with dread and alarm in your voice, slap on a quote from the book of Revelation. People find conspiracies intriguing. But think for a while about what 16:3 is really saying: "the second angel poured out his vial ..." In other words, the sea becomes blood, NOT BY NATURAL EXPLAINABLE PHENOMENA, but by the direct act of God.

It took Aaron, at the behest of Moses on behalf of God, to deliberately put his rod into the Nile for the water to become like blood. Therefore, 16:3 would ONLY be fulfilled when a man of God says that his actions would surely result in some consequence, he does it and behold, the consequence!

The plagues of Revelation are not about waking up one morning, looking at some youtubes, seeing some dead fish, and running out of your house through the streets, crying aloud, "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

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We have been looking at it for almost three months, that is extremely unusual, and it is also showing itself in other parts of the world, so its not a quick hurricane like is happening now...those are usual for Florida.
Posted By: Charity

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 10/10/18 03:44 PM

Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Rick H
When we were in school long ago, one of the teachers took us out to the ocean in his boat, and showed us a strange phenomenon, red tide. He told us this is what will happen when the sea turns to blood, I brushed it off at the time but now we have both coasts of Florida with red tide killing everything in the sea and the canals have filled with green gunk to a level I have never seen in all my years....what is happening..?

Revelation 16:3

And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLV27fEPdHY Florida's toxic red tide is a perfect storm for the Gulf Coast.

You can consider any world event and, with dread and alarm in your voice, slap on a quote from the book of Revelation. People find conspiracies intriguing. But think for a while about what 16:3 is really saying: "the second angel poured out his vial ..." In other words, the sea becomes blood, NOT BY NATURAL EXPLAINABLE PHENOMENA, but by the direct act of God.

It took Aaron, at the behest of Moses on behalf of God, to deliberately put his rod into the Nile for the water to become like blood. Therefore, 16:3 would ONLY be fulfilled when a man of God says that his actions would surely result in some consequence, he does it and behold, the consequence!

The plagues of Revelation are not about waking up one morning, looking at some youtubes, seeing some dead fish, and running out of your house through the streets, crying aloud, "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"


Your points are well taken. On the other hand, isn't it true that one reason the Egyptians ignored the plagues is that they could either duplicate them by magic or explain them away as being natural phenomena. And even when they couldn't they still hardened their hearts.

So I'd keep an open mind to Rick's position. Red tide on a much larger scale could be the means God uses but how many will acknowledge it? For some time now I've thought that the plagues in Egypt like frogs, lice and flies were probably the result of "natural" causes that occurred outside of Egypt and that arrived in Egypt in God's timing at His command through Moses.
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 10/10/18 05:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Charity
Your points are well taken. On the other hand, isn't it true that one reason the Egyptians ignored the plagues is that they could either duplicate them by magic or explain them away as being natural phenomena. And even when they couldn't they still hardened their hearts.

So I'd keep an open mind to Rick's position. Red tide on a much larger scale could be the means God uses but how many will acknowledge it? For some time now I've thought that the plagues in Egypt like frogs, lice and flies were probably the result of "natural" causes that occurred outside of Egypt and that arrived in Egypt in God's timing at His command through Moses.

Then you didn't understand my point. Of course, the Egyptian magicians duplicated the first set of phenomena, but my point was that the spectacular events were NOT natural disasters but deliberate acts of God that were clearly presented that way.

In this instance then, who told you that the water would become filled with red algea before you saw it so? And why Florida and NOT Las Vegas where sin abounds? Is it that God does not like the Florida crocodiles because they're eating up the squirrels too much?

"Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name, saying I am the Christ and will deceive many. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places." Mat. 24:4-7

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Posted By: Rick H

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 10/25/18 01:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Charity
Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Rick H
When we were in school long ago, one of the teachers took us out to the ocean in his boat, and showed us a strange phenomenon, red tide. He told us this is what will happen when the sea turns to blood, I brushed it off at the time but now we have both coasts of Florida with red tide killing everything in the sea and the canals have filled with green gunk to a level I have never seen in all my years....what is happening..?

Revelation 16:3

And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLV27fEPdHY Florida's toxic red tide is a perfect storm for the Gulf Coast.

You can consider any world event and, with dread and alarm in your voice, slap on a quote from the book of Revelation. People find conspiracies intriguing. But think for a while about what 16:3 is really saying: "the second angel poured out his vial ..." In other words, the sea becomes blood, NOT BY NATURAL EXPLAINABLE PHENOMENA, but by the direct act of God.

It took Aaron, at the behest of Moses on behalf of God, to deliberately put his rod into the Nile for the water to become like blood. Therefore, 16:3 would ONLY be fulfilled when a man of God says that his actions would surely result in some consequence, he does it and behold, the consequence!

The plagues of Revelation are not about waking up one morning, looking at some youtubes, seeing some dead fish, and running out of your house through the streets, crying aloud, "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"


Your points are well taken. On the other hand, isn't it true that one reason the Egyptians ignored the plagues is that they could either duplicate them by magic or explain them away as being natural phenomena. And even when they couldn't they still hardened their hearts.

So I'd keep an open mind to Rick's position. Red tide on a much larger scale could be the means God uses but how many will acknowledge it? For some time now I've thought that the plagues in Egypt like frogs, lice and flies were probably the result of "natural" causes that occurred outside of Egypt and that arrived in Egypt in God's timing at His command through Moses.


If this happens worldwide, it will kill everything in the sea. Take a look at the video, the beaches were full of every kind of sea living creator including the larger mammals and dolphins.
Posted By: kland

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 11/06/18 06:33 PM

Chicken Little got hit on the head with a nut and thought the whole sky was falling.

Yes, IF it happens worldwide. But algae in Florida does not mean it's going to happen worldwide any more than a nut falling means the whole sky is going to fall.

Rick, you should be more concerned with Fukushima which is continuing to spew radiation into the sea. And no one seems really concerned. Much of the wildlife along the west coast have been dying for years with no "scientific" explanation. So a little algae kill in Florida seems rather minuscule and non-eventful. However, it is a great distraction from the real death of our oceans....

Kind of reminds me of change your lightbulbs to reduce carbon dioxide while New York intentionally dumped real pollution of sewage in the past while B.C. dumps over 34 million gallons of raw sewage into the ocean daily
Posted By: Rick H

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 05/22/19 02:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Charity
Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Rick H
When we were in school long ago, one of the teachers took us out to the ocean in his boat, and showed us a strange phenomenon, red tide. He told us this is what will happen when the sea turns to blood, I brushed it off at the time but now we have both coasts of Florida with red tide killing everything in the sea and the canals have filled with green gunk to a level I have never seen in all my years....what is happening..?

Revelation 16:3

And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLV27fEPdHY Florida's toxic red tide is a perfect storm for the Gulf Coast.

You can consider any world event and, with dread and alarm in your voice, slap on a quote from the book of Revelation. People find conspiracies intriguing. But think for a while about what 16:3 is really saying: "the second angel poured out his vial ..." In other words, the sea becomes blood, NOT BY NATURAL EXPLAINABLE PHENOMENA, but by the direct act of God.

It took Aaron, at the behest of Moses on behalf of God, to deliberately put his rod into the Nile for the water to become like blood. Therefore, 16:3 would ONLY be fulfilled when a man of God says that his actions would surely result in some consequence, he does it and behold, the consequence!

The plagues of Revelation are not about waking up one morning, looking at some youtubes, seeing some dead fish, and running out of your house through the streets, crying aloud, "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"


Your points are well taken. On the other hand, isn't it true that one reason the Egyptians ignored the plagues is that they could either duplicate them by magic or explain them away as being natural phenomena. And even when they couldn't they still hardened their hearts.

So I'd keep an open mind to Rick's position. Red tide on a much larger scale could be the means God uses but how many will acknowledge it? For some time now I've thought that the plagues in Egypt like frogs, lice and flies were probably the result of "natural" causes that occurred outside of Egypt and that arrived in Egypt in God's timing at His command through Moses.
Very true as no one seems to be able to come up with a solution.
Posted By: Rick H

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 07/14/19 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by kland
Chicken Little got hit on the head with a nut and thought the whole sky was falling.

Yes, IF it happens worldwide. But algae in Florida does not mean it's going to happen worldwide any more than a nut falling means the whole sky is going to fall.

Rick, you should be more concerned with Fukushima which is continuing to spew radiation into the sea. And no one seems really concerned. Much of the wildlife along the west coast have been dying for years with no "scientific" explanation. So a little algae kill in Florida seems rather minuscule and non-eventful. However, it is a great distraction from the real death of our oceans....

Kind of reminds me of change your lightbulbs to reduce carbon dioxide while New York intentionally dumped real pollution of sewage in the past while B.C. dumps over 34 million gallons of raw sewage into the ocean daily


It is happening in the Indian Ocean, and now I found that the Pacific is also showing signs of it. I was watching a travel show of South America, and was shocked they now have it on the coast of Chile. Take a look...

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...tranding-decomposition-time-lapse-video/
Posted By: Rick H

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 07/14/19 04:58 AM

It seems to be spreading around the world even more than I imagined...

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/121129-algae-bloom-australia-science/

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/11/sea-turtle-hundreds-die-off-el-salvador-spd/

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1066766
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 07/15/19 01:45 AM


If that were the case, no wonder the Egyptians looked at Moses and scratched their heads. All they had to do was dump algae in the Nile and voila! The water became blood. So it is not about "blood" anymore but about food coloring.

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Posted By: Rick H

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 07/15/19 10:18 AM

Here is a interesting response I got from a member on another forum..

There are five oceans: Atlantic, Pacific, Arctic, Southern and Indian. There are one hundred and thirteen seas altogether if you include the three landlocked ones. The Atlantic Ocean connects to forty, the Arctic connects to seventeen, the Pacific connects to thirty three, the Southern Ocean connects to eleven, the Indian Ocean connects to nine and there are three landlocked seas being The Dead Sea, Caspian Sea and Aral Sea although these could be classed as salt lakes.

Then we have rivers and fresh water creeks we get our filtered drinking water from. Without fresh water man dehydrates and dies, but this will not affect those who are in Christ as God supplies all our need even when it comes to fresh drinking water like that of Moses who God instructed to strike the rock and fresh water came out of it, Exodus 17:6. Let us now continue with the second vial judgment.

The sea became as the blood of a dead man. The sea does not turn into actual blood as in Revelation 8:8, 9 as this verse says as, emphasis on as, like the blood of a dead man. When one dies their blood coagulates meaning the blood turns into a semisolid or a solid mass as the heart is no longer pumping the blood through the body and the lack of oxygen causes the tissues and cells to die making the blood become a solid or semisolid in time.

God causes the water of the sea to become thick like the blood of a dead man. This possibly could come from and increase of algae called microorganism dinoflagellates that is already growing in the sea that causes a reddish thick substance. God in His supernatural powers could increase the algae on a massive scale. This will cause a lack of oxygen and food source that is vital for all sea life to exist as it will poison the water causing all sea life to die. The stench from the water and rotting carcasses of sea creatures would be tremendously unbearable and also shut down the fishing industry and also the trade industry as merchant ships will no longer be able to travel port to port by sea.

The third angel follows suit as he pours out his vial and all rivers and fountains of water that are our fresh water ecosystems are also turned to this thick form of blood like substance. The angel of the waters proclaims that the Lord is righteous in His judgments against those who have slaughtered the saints and prophets from the very beginning when Cain killed his own brother Able.

Those who have killed the saints and prophets of God are worthy to drink putrid waters of Gods righteous indignation as they deserve nothing better for what they have done against the saints and prophets of God as God has forewarned man to not touch His anointed, 1 Chronicles 16:22; Psalms 105:15.'
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 07/15/19 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Rick H
Here is a interesting response I got from a member on another forum..

There are five oceans: Atlantic, Pacific, Arctic, Southern and Indian. There are one hundred and thirteen seas altogether if you include the three landlocked ones. The Atlantic Ocean connects to forty, the Arctic connects to seventeen, the Pacific connects to thirty three, the Southern Ocean connects to eleven, the Indian Ocean connects to nine and there are three landlocked seas being The Dead Sea, Caspian Sea and Aral Sea although these could be classed as salt lakes.

Then we have rivers and fresh water creeks we get our filtered drinking water from. Without fresh water man dehydrates and dies, but this will not affect those who are in Christ as God supplies all our need even when it comes to fresh drinking water like that of Moses who God instructed to strike the rock and fresh water came out of it, Exodus 17:6. Let us now continue with the second vial judgment.

The sea became as the blood of a dead man. The sea does not turn into actual blood as in Revelation 8:8, 9 as this verse says as, emphasis on as, like the blood of a dead man. When one dies their blood coagulates meaning the blood turns into a semisolid or a solid mass as the heart is no longer pumping the blood through the body and the lack of oxygen causes the tissues and cells to die making the blood become a solid or semisolid in time.

God causes the water of the sea to become thick like the blood of a dead man. This possibly could come from and increase of algae called microorganism dinoflagellates that is already growing in the sea that causes a reddish thick substance. God in His supernatural powers could increase the algae on a massive scale. This will cause a lack of oxygen and food source that is vital for all sea life to exist as it will poison the water causing all sea life to die. The stench from the water and rotting carcasses of sea creatures would be tremendously unbearable and also shut down the fishing industry and also the trade industry as merchant ships will no longer be able to travel port to port by sea.

The third angel follows suit as he pours out his vial and all rivers and fountains of water that are our fresh water ecosystems are also turned to this thick form of blood like substance. The angel of the waters proclaims that the Lord is righteous in His judgments against those who have slaughtered the saints and prophets from the very beginning when Cain killed his own brother Able.

Those who have killed the saints and prophets of God are worthy to drink putrid waters of Gods righteous indignation as they deserve nothing better for what they have done against the saints and prophets of God as God has forewarned man to not touch His anointed, 1 Chronicles 16:22; Psalms 105:15.'

The point is that the plagues are deliberate acts of God through His messenger, not random acts of natural disasters.

  • When God asked Satan about Job and Satan accused God of protecting Job, God told Satan that he, Satan, may go ahead and test Job. Satan then went out and brought natural disasters on Job's head. That is one case.
     
  • The second is NOT like that. When God sent Moses to Egypt to urge Pharaoh to let Israel go, God specifically told Moses to say a certain thing. We know that that certain thing would come to pass, Pharaoh would plead for relief, Moses would pray for him and the certain thing would go away. Those certain things (blood, frogs, lice, darkness, etc) were NOT natural disasters but deliberate acts of God through Moses.

Therefore one ought not to wake up, rub one's eyes, look at the TV, see some dead fish, jump out of bed and run down the street, shouting, "The end! The end is nigh! The plagues are here! Finally, we get to see the plagues!" That is certainly not what Revelation 16 is about.

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Posted By: kland

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 07/15/19 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rick H
God causes the water of the sea to become thick like the blood of a dead man. This possibly could come from and increase of algae called microorganism dinoflagellates that is already growing in the sea that causes a reddish thick substance. God in His supernatural powers could increase the algae on a massive scale. This will cause a lack of oxygen and food source that is vital for all sea life to exist as it will poison the water causing all sea life to die. The stench from the water and rotting carcasses of sea creatures would be tremendously unbearable and also shut down the fishing industry and also the trade industry as merchant ships will no longer be able to travel port to port by sea.

This reads like theistic evolution.

Again, why this strong desire to see destruction?

What you have said in this paragraph is that God causes death, destruction, and harm.
And that you have some sort of anticipation for it.
Why do you want to see death, destruction, and harm?
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 07/21/19 12:37 PM

Good question, kland. There're so many SDA hoping an praying to see the plagues, it's beginning to sound really strange.

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Posted By: Daryl

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 07/23/19 12:33 AM

It is the Second Coming that I am looking forward to, not the plagues, etc.
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: Sea turns to blood... - 07/23/19 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by Daryl
It is the Second Coming that I am looking forward to, not the plagues, etc.

Yep, that'd be just about right.

When the disciples were with Jesus on the last day, they asked Him, "Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel? And He said to them: It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority..." Acts 1:4-8

The obsession over prophecy and prophetic utterances, over tea leaves and crystal balls, over numbers and words and omens is not the way of the Christian. Eternal Life and Heaven begins right here, right now and we are its ambassadors, going about doing good and preaching the gospel of salvation to any who would take the citizenship test and be born again unto a new and living hope. We live and die, and one day, we'll rise again and continue on forever!

In fact, that is the whole point of Jesus's words to Martha when Lazarus had died, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?" John 11:25-26

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