Mark of the Beast related to the 1st Beast or 2nd Beast of Rev 13 and WHO is the 2nd Beast?

The need to revisit these questions seems to come up in A New Global Economic Restructure in 2012 discussion here. I will only quote this portion with Kland.



A: If you agree that the Mark of the Beast is related[primarily] with the 1st Beast, then I would like to see Biblical & historical support.

B. Who do you think the the 2nd Beast of Rev 13 is with all that is unfolding today and how does it related to the 1st Beast?

The 'mark' of the beast goes back to Cain who slew his brother Abel, and received the mark. The Mark is placed on those who would kill to have their religious offerings accepted without God's will.

When the Sunday law is decreed these men receive the mark because they are willing to kill for their beliefs to be enforced.

Genesis 1:14 'And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years'.

The mark is established over an erroneously enforced day of worship. Something made sacred in the minds of men without God's will.

More specifically to your question Elle.

Rev 13; 1-12 covers the 1260 years, from 538AD till the 'deadly wound' is inflicted to the head of the beast in 1798AD.

Then Rev 13 goes on in verse 13 as America the Lamb-like beast comes onto the stage, then sets up a law to enforce the religion of the papacy after the papal resurrection of 1929, but more specifically after Satan appears as an angel of light in the form of a resurrected pope (The False Prophet, eighth king of Rev 17) who will be telling the world that God told him to come tell everyone that Sunday is the true day of worship. This is soon to happen after this pope (the seventh head/king of Rev 17) dies.

When Satan appears as this angel (Messenger) of light, the image to the beast, set up by American Protestants changing the political structure of America, the Lamb like beast, to suit the first beast, is the one who enforces the mark of the first beast of Rev 13. That mark has been a part of the fallen papal institution from the beginning of their church, which is how Babylon the Mother of Harlots fell to begin with in the dark ages.

The first beast of Rev 13 lasts 1260 years then receives the head wound, is resurrected as the beast of Rev 17. The beast of Rev 17 is the continuation of the first beast of Rev 13, till the end .It is during this phase of the Roman beast that Satan the son of perdition is revealed and the 'Mark' is enforced by the image to the beast, erected by the Protestants of America, who lend their strength to the first beast for about one hour, or two literal weeks.

The mark has been around since the fall of man, but has a peculiar strength within the fallen church during the 1,260 years and is finally brought to full strength when the protestant churches fight for the false sacred day.

The mark (or sign of allegiance to) the beast is SUNDAY.

Our sign of alliance to the Creator is the Sabbath.

Deut. 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it [is] a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that [ye] may know that I [am] the LORD that doth sanctify you.

Ez. 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I [am] the LORD that sanctify them.
20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God.


The last day issue will be over God's commandments as we see from Rev. 12:17 and 14:12
The devils war is against them that keep God's commandments, and God's saints are identified by their keeping of God's commandments.

Only those who are truly in relationship with Jesus can keep His commandments, all others may give an outward performance, but that will quickly disappear once the pressure is on.

Which commandment is the most trodden underfoot, not only by non-believers but also by Christians? The one not only disobeyed but also has Christians filling books and webpages to refute? While all God's commandments are under attack, there is only one that receives the denunciation of almost the whole Christian world.

Finally we hear the messages of the angels in Rev. 14.

How is the TRUE WORSHIP defined?
(Rev. 13 outlined false worship)
True worship is defined with a call to worship the Creator God. The language is VERY similar to the language of the fourth commandment.


The SIGNS
show who we look to as the "Savior and lawgiver". The signs have no saving power in themselves -- it's about who has our allegiance.

By accepting the authority of the "mother" church as being above God's law, thus a law unto itself, we move our allegiance from God to the usurper.

Show me your biblical & historical support that it is related to the first beast. [/quote]



The second beast of Revelation 13 is the United States.
It is the power that gives the first beast it's greatest boost back into primacy.

The first beast is European based. By it's feet, body and mouth we realize it is the continuation of the great empires that dominated Europe. It is a continuation of Daniel 7 depicting the progression there in its final "horn" stage.

The papacy gained it's "beast" powers when an army was given it, and took upon itself the role of "punishing heretics" by FORCE. The main country that gave the armed power to the papacy after the downfall of the western empire, was France.

It was also France that removed the "beast power" from the papacy in 1798. The deadly wound was then inflicted.

The country that will be the main power to boost the papacy back into "beastly" position is America. Protestant America's link with the papacy is SUNDAY worship and this will be their big sign of in their attempt to bring the nations back to God.

The big problem -- Sunday is not the day God sanctified and blessed and asked people to remember.
Sunday is the "child" of the church that turned against the so called "Jewish" Sabbath.

Correct, but you are looking just at the fallen church here. Within the Sabbath keeping church there are those who sigh and cry for the abominations done in His sanctuary also.

In other words, not all who say they 'keep the Sabbath' will be saved either. Many will fall away because they do not have a love of the truth. They are the foolish ones.

These will be those who receive the Mark in their hand.

They sign eternal life away to not be persecuted by Cain.

Hebrews 11:4(ESV)

By faith Abel offered to God a more acceptable sacrifice than Cain, through which he was commended as righteous, God commending him by accepting his gifts. And through his faith, though he died, he still speaks.

Luke 11:51(ESV) from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who perished between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, it will be required of this generation.

The Jews who persecuted Jesus were synonymous with the nominal Adventists of this day.

I'm not so sure that history has explained it to some depth in this thread.

Re 13:11 And I saw another beast

Re 13:12 And he exerciseth all the authority of the first beast
"he"= 2nd beast.

Re 13:13 And he doeth great signs,

Re 13:14 And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by reason of the signs which it was given him to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who hath the stroke of the sword and lived.
"he"= 2nd

Re 13:16 And he causeth all,
In the link, you said "he" = 2nd, right?

Re 13:17 and that no man should be able to buy or to sell, save he that hath the mark, even the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Which beast? Which beast has it been talking about the 2nd making an image to which "beast who hath the stroke of the sword and lived"? Sounds like the mark is related to the first to me.

Overview of Rev 13 for those interested.

Verses 1-10 are the 1,260 years of the Papal Roman empire until the head wound in 1798.

verses 11-13 is the rise of Protestant America until it speaks like the dragon who empowered the beast before it, the Papal Roman empire. This 2nd beast exercises all the power of the previous beast who was motivated by the dragon, Satan.

Verses 14-17 then America begins to force all to worship the first beast Rome, through forming an image to the first beast which is the false Sabbath.

But what is very interesting are these verses.

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. (The sword, or word of God must be fulfilled and it is prophesied "He who leadeth into captivity shall be led into captivity" so at the end of the prophetic 1260 years the sword did it's thing)

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

There is a false resurrection coming.

Depends upon what the image is.
Which depends upon what the beast is.

The prophecy of Revelation 13 declares that the power represented by the beast with lamblike horns shall cause “the earth and them which dwell therein” to worship the papacy—there symbolized by the beast “like unto a leopard.” The beast with two horns is also to say “to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast;” and, furthermore, it is to command all, “both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond,” to receive the mark of the beast. Revelation 13:11-16. It has been shown that the United States is the power represented by the beast with lamblike horns, and that this prophecy will be fulfilled when the United States shall enforce Sunday observance, which Rome claims as the special acknowledgment of her supremacy. But in this homage to the papacy the United States will not be alone. The influence of Rome in the countries that once acknowledged her dominion is still far from being destroyed. And prophecy foretells a restoration of her power. “I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.” Verse 3. The infliction of the deadly wound points to the downfall of the papacy in 1798. After this, says the prophet, “his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.” Paul states plainly that the “man of sin” will continue until the second advent. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-8. To the very close of time he will carry forward the work of deception. And the revelator declares, also referring to the papacy: “All that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life.” Revelation 13:8. In both the Old and the New World, the papacy will receive homage in the honor paid to the Sunday institution, that rests solely upon the authority of the Roman Church. {DD 27.1}
Since the middle of the nineteenth century, students of prophecy in the United States have presented this testimony to the world. In the events now taking place is seen a rapid advance toward the fulfillment of the prediction. With Protestant teachers there is the same claim of divine authority for Sundaykeeping, and the same lack of Scriptural evidence, as with the papal leaders who fabricated miracles to supply the place of a command from God. The assertion that God’s judgments are visited upon men for their violation of the Sunday-Sabbath, will be repeated; already it is beginning to be urged. And a movement to enforce Sunday observance is fast gaining ground. {DD 27.2}

Do you still not know what the image is?

The beast with two horns “causeth [commands] all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13:16, 17. The third angel’s warning is: “If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God.” “The beast” mentioned in this message, whose worship is enforced by the two-horned beast, is the first, or leopardlike beast of Revelation 13—the papacy. The “image to the beast” represents that form of apostate Protestantism which will be developed when the Protestant churches shall seek the aid of the civil power for the enforcement of their dogmas. The “mark of the beast” still remains to be defined. {GC 445.2}
After the warning against the worship of the beast and his image the prophecy declares: “Here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.” Since those who keep God’s commandments are thus placed in contrast with those that worship the beast and his image and receive his mark, it follows that the keeping of God’s law, on the one hand, and its violation, on the other, will make the distinction between the worshipers of God and the worshipers of the beast. {GC 445.3}
The special characteristic of the beast, and therefore of his image, is the breaking of God’s commandments. Says Daniel, of the little horn, the papacy: “He shall think to change times and the law.” Daniel 7:25, R.V. And Paul styled the same power the “man of sin,” who was to exalt himself above God. One prophecy is a complement of the other. Only by changing God’s law could the papacy exalt itself above God; whoever should understandingly keep the law as thus changed would be giving supreme honor to that power by which the change was made. Such an act of obedience to papal laws would be a mark of allegiance to the pope in the place of God. {GC 446.1}

'The “image to the beast” represents that form of apostate Protestantism which will be developed when the Protestant churches shall seek the aid of the civil power for the enforcement of their dogmas.'{GC 445.2}

Do you still not know what the 'image' is? America erecting the image is the same as forcing all to worship the first beast, they are synonymous, just put into context by other words.

First response post you sounded like the image was Sunday worship. I'm not sure if resurrecting Sunday worship is a) what you had in mind, b) could be considered "resurrected".

The second sounded like you mean it to be apostate Protestantism. Not sure how that is to be resurrected since it already exists. Nor why you would think there is a false resurrection coming. I'm not saying there won't be one unrelated to the image, but the conclusion you come to does not sound valid.

"I saw all that 'would not receive the mark of the Beast, and of his Image, in their foreheads or in their hands,' could not buy or sell. [Revelation 13:15-17.] I saw that the number (666) of the Image Beast was made up; [Revelation 13:18.] and that it was the Beast that changed the Sabbath, and the Image Beast had followed on after, and kept the Pope's, and not God's Sabbath. And all we were required to do, was to give up God's Sabbath, and keep the Pope's, and then we should have the mark of the Beast, and of his image. {WLF 19.1}

"In the last days Satan will appear as an angel of light, with great power and heavenly glory, and claim to be the Lord of the whole earth. He will declare that the Sabbath has been changed from the seventh to the first day of the week; and as lord of the first day of the week he will present this spurious sabbath as a test of loyalty to him. Then will take place the final fulfillment of the Revelator's prophecy.
13:4 "And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.
13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by [the means of] those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six. [Revelation 13:4-18.] {19MR 282.1}

"The light we have received upon the third angel's message is the true light. The mark of the beast is exactly what it has been proclaimed to be. Not all in regard to this matter is yet understood, nor will it be understood until the unrolling of the scroll; but a most solemn work is to be accomplished in our world. The Lord's command to His servants is: "Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and show My people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins." Isaiah 58:1. {6T 17.1}

"Be sure the Sabbath is a test question, and how you treat this question places you either on God's side or Satan's side. The mark of the beast is to be presented in some shape to every institution and every individual". . . . {3SM 395.4}

Brother Kland,

What day does apostate Christianity keep as their official day of rest? Sunday correct? This institution is a memorial to Satan when used as a graven image, using a common day for Holy purposes.

Is this not a part of the 'dogma' Mrs. White said they will ask the American government to enforce? What other dogmas do they espouse? The state of the dead!

"Through the two great errors, the immortality of the soul and Sunday sacredness, Satan will bring the people under his deceptions. While the former lays the foundation of Spiritualism, the latter creates a bond of sympathy with Rome. Protestantism will yet stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of Spiritualism; she will reach over the abyss to clasp hands with the Roman power; and under the influence of this threefold union, our country will follow in the steps of Rome in trampling on the rights of conscience. {4SP 405.1}

These are the dogmas that will set America and the world against us and God. They will use the apparitions of Satan to bring sympathy for the Catholic church and this will cause them to enforce the false day of rest.

James, we were talking about a false resurrection. I do not see in your post where that was addressed.

The immortality of the soul, how do you suppose this would be an issue? Can you fathom a situation where all of the sudden there is a world wide state of confusion about the immortality of the soul which would lead to every single worldly person accepting the mark of the beast?

How would a Muslim or Hebrew accept Sunday as the day of rest and bow to the Catholic church? This is prophesied, so we look to how this could happen within the confines of the given prophetic language.

It will have to be a satanic delusion stronger than Pharaohs magicians making their staffs 'appear' to become serpents. It would be on the scale of Elijah bringing fire from heaven. This is what the false prophet (Satan appearing as an angel of light) will do in the sight of the whole world.

For the Muslims, an apparition of Mary (Fatima) would be their guide. They believe Mary is the mother of a prophet and is Holier than Jesus. She is mentioned ten times in the Koran as a Holy person.

For the Jews it would be Elijah who they are waiting for.

For the Protestants it would be the Apostles.

Then after everything has transpired and the mark of the beast or the seal of God has been administered, then after the close of probation it would be a false Jesus trying to deceive the elect while the plagues are falling.

This IS what is going to happen and how the world will fall for the trap.

"The doctrine of natural immortality, first borrowed from pagan philosophy and in the darkness of the great apostasy incorporated into the Christian faith, has supplanted the truth that “the dead know not anything.” Ecclesiastes 9:5. Multitudes believe that the spirits of the dead are the “ministering spirits sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation.” Hebrews 1:14. {HF 338.1}
The belief that spirits of the dead return to minister to the living has prepared the way for modern spiritualism. If the dead are privileged with knowledge far exceeding what they before possessed, why not return to earth and instruct the living? If spirits of the dead hover about their friends on earth, why not communicate with them? How can those who believe in man’s consciousness in death reject “divine light” communicated by glorified spirits? Here is a channel regarded as sacred through which Satan works. Fallen angels appear as messengers from the spirit world. {HF 338.2}
The prince of evil has power to bring before men the appearance of departed friends. The counterfeit is perfect, reproduced with marvelous distinctness. Many are comforted with the assurance that their loved ones are enjoying heaven. Without suspicion of danger, they give ear “to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.” 1 Timothy 4:1. {HF 338.3}
Those who went into the grave unprepared claim to be happy and to occupy exalted positions in heaven. Pretended visitants from the world of spirits sometimes utter warnings which prove to be correct. Then, as confidence is gained, they present doctrines that undermine the Scriptures. The fact that they state some truths and at times foretell future events gives an appearance of reliability, and their false teachings are accepted. The law of God is set aside, the Spirit of grace despised. The spirits deny the deity of Christ and place the Creator on a level with themselves. {HF 338.4}
While it is true that the results of trickery have often been palmed off as genuine manifestations, there have been, also, marked exhibitions of supernatural power, the direct work of evil angels. Many believe that spiritualism is merely human imposture. When brought face to face with manifestations which they cannot but regard as supernatural, they will be deceived and accept them as the great power of God. {HF 339.1}
By satanic aid Pharaoh’s magicians counterfeited the work of God. See Exodus 7:10-12. Paul testifies that the coming of the Lord is to be preceded by “the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:9, 10. And John declares: “He doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, and deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by means of those miracles which he had power to do.” Revelation 13:13, 14. No mere impostures are here foretold. Men are deceived by the miracles which Satan’s agents do, not which they pretend to do. {HF 339.2}

Here is the mark of the beast, if you do not listen you WILL be overcome by the last day delusions. Listen up children of disobedience!!!!

"Their loved ones will appear in robes of light, as familiar to the sight as when they were upon the earth. They will teach them and converse with them. And many will be deceived by this wonderful display of Satan’s power. The only safety for the people of God is to be thoroughly conversant with their Bibles, and be intelligent upon the reasons of our faith in regard to the sleep of the dead. {Con 88.3}
Satan is a cunning foe. And it is not difficult for the evil angels to represent both saints and sinners who have died, and make these representations visible to human eyes. These manifestations will be more frequent, and developments of a more startling character will appear as we near the close of time. We need not be astonished at anything in the line of deceptions to allure the unwary and deceive, if possible, the very elect. Spiritualists quote, “Prove all things.” But God has, for the benefit of His people who live amid the perils of the last days, proved this class, and given the result of His proving. {Con 88.4}
“Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12. {Con 89.1}
John, upon the Isle of Patmos, saw the things which should come upon the earth in the last days. Revelation 13:13; Revelation 16:14: “And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.” “For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.” {Con 89.2}
The apostle Peter distinctly points out the class which will be manifested in these last days. {Con 89.3}
“But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, self-willed, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; and shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the daytime. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children.” 2 Peter 2:10-14. {Con 89.4}
"God, in His Word, has placed His stamp [of condemnation] upon the heresies of spiritualism as He placed His mark upon Cain. The godly need not be deceived if they are students of the Scriptures and obedient to follow the plain path marked out for them in the Word of God. {Con 90.1}

Here is when the Later rain will fall in conjunction with the world wide delusion...


"Servants of God, with their faces lighted up and shining with holy consecration, will hasten from place to place to proclaim the message from heaven (Rev 18; Babylon has become inhabited by demons). By thousands of voices, all over the earth, the warning will be given. Miracles will be wrought, the sick will be healed, and signs and wonders will follow the believers. Satan also works, with lying wonders, even bringing down fire from heaven in the sight of men. Revelation 13:13. Thus the inhabitants of the earth will be brought to take their stand. {GC 612.1}
The message will be carried not so much by argument as by the deep conviction of the Spirit of God. The arguments have been presented. The seed has been sown, and now it will spring up and bear fruit. The publications distributed by missionary workers have exerted their influence, yet many whose minds were impressed have been prevented from fully comprehending the truth or from yielding obedience. Now the rays of light penetrate everywhere, the truth is seen in its clearness, and the honest children of God sever the bands which have held them. Family connections, church relations, are powerless to stay them now. Truth is more precious than all besides. Notwithstanding the agencies combined against the truth, a large number take their stand upon the Lord’s side. {GC 612.2}

So when this event begins, we will be empowered to confront the delusion and this will bring then end of all things on this world.

"He who is the father of lies, blinds and deceives the world by sending forth his angels to speak for the apostles, and to make it appear that they contradict what they wrote by the dictation of the Holy Ghost when on earth. These lying angels make the apostles to corrupt their own teachings and to declare them to be adulterated. By so doing Satan delights to throw professed Christians and all the world into uncertainty about the Word of God. That holy Book cuts directly across his track and thwarts his plans; therefore he leads them to doubt its divine origin. Then he sets up the infidel, Thomas Paine, as if he were ushered into heaven when he died, and now, united with the holy apostles whom he hated on earth, were engaged in teaching the world. {EW 90.1}
Satan assigns to each of his angels a part to act. He enjoins upon them all to be sly, artful, cunning. He instructs some of them to act the part of the apostles and to speak for them, while others are to act the part of infidels and wicked men who died cursing God, but now appear to be very religious. There is no difference made between the most holy apostles and the vilest infidel. They are both made to teach the same thing. It matters not whom Satan makes to speak, if his object is only accomplished. He was so intimately connected with Paine upon the earth, aiding him in his work, that it is an easy thing for him to know the very words Paine used and the very handwriting of one who served him so faithfully and accomplished his purposes so well. Satan dictated much of his writings, and it is an easy thing for him to dictate sentiments through his angels now and make it appear that they come through Thomas Paine, who, while living, was a devoted servant of the evil one. This is the masterpiece of Satan. All this teaching, purporting to be from apostles and saints and wicked men who have died, comes directly from his satanic majesty. {EW 90.2}

"I saw that the saints must get a thorough understanding of present truth, which they will be obliged to maintain from the Scriptures. They must understand the state of the dead; for the spirits of devils will yet appear to them, professing to be beloved friends and relatives, who will declare to them that the Sabbath has been changed, also other unscriptural doctrines. They will do all in their power to excite sympathy and will work miracles before them to confirm what they declare. The people of God must be prepared to withstand these spirits with the Bible truth that the dead know not anything, and that they who appear to them are the spirits of devils. Our minds must not be taken up with things around us, but must be occupied with the present truth and a preparation to give a reason of our hope with meekness and fear. We must seek wisdom from on high that we may stand in this day of error and delusion. {EW 87.2}
We must examine well the foundation of our hope, for we shall have to give a reason for it from the Scriptures. This delusion will spread, and we shall have to contend with it face to face; and unless we are prepared for it, we shall be ensnared and overcome. But if we do what we can on our part to be ready for the conflict that is just before us, God will do His part, and His all-powerful arm will protect us. He would sooner send every angel out of glory to the relief of faithful souls, to make a hedge about them, than have them deceived and led away by the lying wonders of Satan. {EW 88.1}
I saw the rapidity with which this delusion was spreading. A train of cars was shown me, going with the speed of lightning. The angel bade me look carefully. I fixed my eyes upon the train. It seemed that the whole world was on board, that there could not be one left. Said the angel, “They are binding in bundles ready to burn.” Then he showed me the conductor, who appeared like a stately, fair person, whom all the passengers looked up to and reverenced. I was perplexed and asked my attending angel who it was. He said, “It is Satan. He is the conductor in the form of an angel of light. He has taken the world captive. They are given over to strong delusions, to believe a lie, that they may be damned. This agent, the next highest in order to him, is the engineer, and other of his agents are employed in different offices as he may need them, and they are all going with lightning speed to perdition.” {EW 88.2}
I asked the angel if there were none left. He bade me look in an opposite direction, and I saw a little company traveling a narrow pathway. All seemed to be firmly united, bound together by the truth, in bundles, or companies. Said the angel, “The third angel is binding, or sealing, them in bundles for the heavenly garner.” This little company looked careworn, as if they had passed through severe trials and conflicts. And it appeared as if the sun had just risen from behind a cloud and shone upon their countenances, causing them to look triumphant, as if their victories were nearly won. {EW 88.3}
I saw that the Lord has given the world opportunity to discover the snare."

Here it is, here is the snare foretold in scripture. If you don't believe, you are not worthy to present the Advent Message and you should leave now so you don't burn longer for the mistakes you make in the church from now on. THIS IS FROM GOD'S MOUTH, through his servant!

Someone should make a movie about this using the Spirit of Prophecy and scripture to build the screen play. Make the Sabbath appealing to the masses through the media by showing the sealing as the safe haven in the Spirit of Christ for their salvation. Use all the evil empire imagery against the Papacy and the people of God like Spiritual warrior apostles, the 144.000 are the heroes.

This would be an awesome movie.

It would be a great movie indeed and that's what makes the Great Controversy so compelling. The GC is not just entertainment but the reality in advance. There actually are Adventists who are working on this very thing now but I have reservations.

My understanding is that we should not use drama/theater/plays/acting to advance spiritual truths. I could be wrong. Have you looked into her counsel? Did Christ or the Apostles or prophets use this? Ezekiel did act out divine messages. One of the prophets if I remember right went with his behind uncovered which would be shocking to us but I'm hard pressed to find theater/acting of the entertainment genre in scripture.

My question is, is theater evil in itself or is it like the internet - a useful communication tool that can be a blessing or a curse? The world views the notion of the theater as evil as extreme, but why has that medium been shunned by the church from ancient times?

There should never be drama inside the sanctuary. It is a place of worship, not entertainment. There will be many shame faced people when they see what they did to God by having drama in the sanctuary and using children to accomplish their goals.

But to say all media is sinful is wrong also. The internet is one of the greatest libraries ever developed and invaluable to the church for advancement of truth.

How many are saved by the use of the tool of television or radio? But those same tools can be used as a weapon from Satan. It is all in how it is used.

To use the biblical account in an unsanctified way is evil also. How many here have the Cecil B Demil version of Moses on DVD? There are heresies in that film. But most SDA's do not care and watch anyways, using it as a babysitter for their children.

What I was advocating tongue in cheek is a fictional futuristic account based off of prophetic truth from scripture. It would be presented that way, not hiding the intent. But again this was tongue in cheek.

Here is the danger of it though, when they make this film based off the Great Controversy as you mentioned, if they do not emphasize the spiritual manifestations and deal mostly with the Sunday law, if what God showed me is correct, then who would have been prepared? It could actually backfire in the way the producers interpret the events in the more traditional approach. The funny thing is, I have as much bible support as the Spirit of Prophecy in this interpretation. Certain dimensions are brought together in what our Father has shared with me, and because what is shown perfectly harmonizes with scripture and spirit of prophecy it strengthens faith, which is the identifying signature of God.

When the prophets Ellen White in her life and John the Revelator on the isle of Patmos saw the time of the second coming, God said to not publish certain things she and John saw, and that is part of the seven thunders; what is left unwritten for effect. Then when the completion comes, it is seen it was in scripture and the SOP all along.

There are significant clues throughout her writings that connect the dots together and get the picture of the mark of the beast, what it is, how it will be enforced, who enforces it... but the man of sin had not yet been revealed. Mrs White says over and over that it is the pope, but then she talks about Satan appearing as an 'Angel of light' by appearing as a ghost in the form of a "stately fair person whom the whole looked up to in reverence" on the train heading with lightning speed to perdition. There is a significant crossing over to spiritual apparitions language throughout her end time writings but no one is even considering this point in all of their end time scenarios they present. It's going to be like ghost busters soon.

When this happens you will see, and if you are faithful you'll be a part of the loud cry. We are there brothers, He is at our doorstep. Never been closer...

Revelation 3:20(KJV)
"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me."

I agree there’s many marks but Rev 13 is referring to the mark of the 2nd BEAST in power. So this mark is specific and it relates to the 2nd BEAST. Therefore, we first need to know who is that Beast, afterwards look for his mark. All authorities in power have their own mark.



Would you agree that this was the time of the first Beast of Rev 13 being in power?

The papal was reinstated before that in 1800-1801 by Napolean and again in 1815 with the Holy Alliance.

Conciliation treaty in 1929
The signing of the Conciliation treaty in 1929 was a pack to separate the Vatican from Italy and declare the little physical area of the Vatican as a sovereign state. The Vatican didn’t have sovereignty beyond that area. The Vatican had more Sovereignty in 1801 & 1815 than in 1929 with Mussolini. He(Mussolini) made a speech 3 months after signing the treaty saying “Inside the State the Church is neither sovereign nor free… We have not resurrected the temporal power of the popes: we have buried it”. So I really don’t see the foundation to support your statement that the Papacy was resurrected in 1929. http://www.concordatwatch.eu/topic-841.843

Healing of wound doesn’t mean Restoration of ALL Power(Empire)
Scripture says the deadly wound was healed. It doesn’t mean nor say that the Papacy ultimate Sovereignty was reinstated like he had in those 1260 years when it was truly an Empire ruling Europe. After 1798, the papacy never regained that same power. To say that it will and expect it -- is speculation for the Bible doesn’t say that and it is adding to scripture. Scripture specifically says that the power of the 1st Beast(Empire) lasted for 1260 years. Then Rev 13 says that another beast(empire) rose out of the earth after the 1st Beast empire.

If we let history reveal the “wound healing” interpretation, it would simply mean that he was re-instated after the wound of 1798. In 1800, Napoleon needed a pope figure, so he reinstated the Pope for politic reason. After being reinstated in 1801, the pope’s power was under Napolean. Then when Napolean was defeated in 1814, it was really the Holy Alliance treaty in Vienna signed in 1815 that resurrected the power back to the Pope and so “its wound became healed”. The pope received other blows in 1830, 1848 and 1870. Each time the pope was reinstated but its power was increasingly diminished after each blow like a person receiving physical blows to the head and each recovery was only partial. History shows that the Roman Church never recovered its full power again till this day.

1st Beast, 2nd Beast, and Rev 17 Beast

This is a SDA speculative interpretation which has not taken place. It’s foundation is all based on our supposition that the Pope is the 1st Beast, 2nd Beast, and the Beast of Rev 17 and then deriving its MARK being the SUNDAY LAW. This has many lacks, holes, and it doesn’t speak according to what the Lord reveal in the Law of tribulations(Lev 26 and Deut 28), the revelation of Daniel, and other scriptures. Plus does not reflect history and does not account world changing historical events that has taken place since 1798 till today.

When you say that the “American Protestants changing the political structure of America” could you be more specific in terms of how and the dates in history so I can go and verified the data?

What I see is a big hole in our view of unfolding history from 1798 till today by which is filled by a minor and debatable Protestantism-erecting-an-image-to-the-beast event to force history support our interpretation rather than looking at history objectively letting it define prophesy of the scriptures.

To paraphrase what I’m understanding you are saying is that the 1st Beast of Rev 13 will become SATAN resurrected in a form of a POPE that will become the Beast of Rev 17. The 2nd Beast of Rev 13 is only an image that protestanism erects. So you are recognizing 3 BEASTs? Also you’re saying that the 1st Beast Sovereignty was resurrected in 1929, but yet kinda contradict yourself by saying it is not yet really sovereign until the Satan-Pope of Rev 17 comes.

To conclude in saying that the 1st and the 2nd Beast(the image of the 1st) is virtually the same Beast -– the Papacy -- is contrary to the flow of past revelations to Daniel (and reveal in history of the first 4(5) beasts) of the Beasts empires. Even the 4th Beast-Rome was not said to be replaced by another beast, but by a little horn growing out of that beast, for it was actually a transition of the Roman power to the Papacy. Any real change of Empires was signified by a change of Beast. So if the 1st and 2nd Beast of Rev 13 is virtually the same as it was with Rome and the Papal Rome, then revelation would be consistent and we would only see one Beast. But having the Bible mentioning that a complete different beast appears, then that denotes a different Empire. Therefore this by itself shade the SDAs interpretation.

And then what do you do with the Cabals currently in power today having built a firm EMPIRE -- in full since the Federal Act in 1917 ? They rule all of Europe, the USA, and many other countries. What do you do with these world changing historical fact and seeing this coming in the open today and seeing that Empire is crumbling before our eyes? Knowing that that Empire was kept SECRET (the meaning of Mystery). Do we ignore these (by which are the actual prophecy fulfillments by the hand of the Lord) because it doesn’t fit with the SDA interpretation?

Are you saying that there’s no 2nd Beast and the 1st Beast transit into the REV 17 Beast???

So this 2nd Beast (which is only an “image” that the Protestants fabricated) only comes into power for two literal weeks and it hasn’t come yet? So until this happens, I see this as speculations based of man’s interpretation of scriptures. There is room for speculation, however, we need to be able to test all things with scriptures and reject what is not in harmony.

What are your Biblical proofs of this? How does the law of Moses and the prophets support this? All truth needs to be tested against the Torah and the manner of keeping it (Is 8:20).

The 2nd beast; the Lamb-like beast with two horns, is America. The 'image to the beast' that 'begins to speak like a dragon' is not until these factors are established...

"When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near.—Testimonies for the Church 5:451 (1885). {LDE 131.4}

The ecumenical movement that has been pushed for in the last half century began this process.

From Wiki, "In 1948 the first meeting of the World Council of Churches took place. Despite the fact that the meeting had been postponed due to World War 2, the council took place in Amsterdam with the theme of “Man’s Disorder and God’s Design”."

...The Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification is a document created by and agreed to by the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity and the Lutheran World Federation in 1999, as a result of extensive ecumenical dialogue. It states that the churches now share "a common understanding of our justification by God's grace through faith in Christ."[1] To the parties involved, this essentially resolves the conflict over the nature of justification which was at the root of the Protestant Reformation.

Since this declaration our country has begun to repudiate our constitution to make provision for papal falsehoods. Now the next thing that must happen is the Spiritualism aspect to be established. This will happen when Satan appears as an angel of light in the form of one of the last seven popes.

By the way, Mussolini, who was Hitlers right hand man, started this process of reunification of Rome with the world just before world war II. According to many sources, world war II delayed the process considerably, but Mussolini was obsessed with rebuilding the Catholic church and Rome after recovering inside a Catholic hospital from wounds inflicted in battle.

When he was publicly declared a dictator he immediately set out to restore Rome to it's former beauty. He even rebuilt monuments of worship that were considered holy shrines, used as banks to the Romans pre-Christ. He re-established the 'kingship' of the pope in 1929 through the Lateran Treaty.

Most people, even in our church (Seventh Day Adventist) do not see the significance of this fulfillment of prophecy, the healing of the wound to the head of the fallen church, and as a result place other elements of end time prophetic interpretative importance disproportionately. This is considered sanctification in this day and age, but truth begets truth, and understanding will be received by everyone in the truth. This is why it is so important to test the Spirit of the word. If it is from God it rings with truth and ties truths together, especially after fulfillment comes.

But when you have end time statements like "I saw that God gave men time to discover the snare" or "The end shall not come until the man of sin is revealed", this is truth that must be fulfilled. These are end time prophecies and they must be a part of the end time message or what is being said is a lie if proclaimed in the last days, do you hear what needs to be heard? Our message will shortly be in power proclaiming "Babylon has become inhabited by demons".

The lateran pack allowed the Pope to be a "head of State"(the 70 Acres of the Vatican property only). This allow him to have a voice in international meetings like the UN today. Before that, he had no voice and no state and was in continual conflict with Italy.

I agree that the Pope has gained an influence over "religion" with the aid of the ecumenical movement and other concordats. However, the fact remain that the RCC still do not have an EMPIRE and are not the head over the current world's events. And it is speculative to think that they will because it is not specified in the Bible and it is contrary to previous interpretations of a new Beast that arising denoting a new EMPIRE. The 1st Beast was the RCC, the 2nd Beast of Rev 13, is an entire new EMPIRE.

Any proper judgment or analysis needs to consider ALL important factors before coming to a proper conclusion. You are not considering an important event that took place in 1815 that has given this group of people the World Empire today. I understand that we have not been taught this part of history in our Church. However, our loyalty is to the Lord and what is happening historically, and currently today is His work in fulfilling His prophecies. We need to consider His work in this very important and most influencial eventful time of history that is climaxing today.

Here's a simple historical explanation of the Holy Alliance of 1815 describe by Stephen Jones.

The Church-Rothschild Unholy Alliance

"The Holy Alliance" of 1815 was preceded by a rather unholy alliance many years earlier between the Jesuits and the Freemasons. The popes themselves denounced the Freemasons often, but Papal threats of excommunication affected only the faithful. Those whose intent it was to infiltrate the Roman Church only laughed at the threats.

Yet there was another member of this unholy alliance that would prove to be even more dangerous. It was the Jewish money power--possibly by Sabbateans, who were themselves a semi-secret Jewish sect. Their founder's conversion to Islam in 1666 was forced by threats of torture and death, so he "converted" in the same manner that many Jews had converted to the Roman Church. Shabbatai Zevi's conversion was really an infiltration of Islam, which still has ramifications to this day.

Hence, the beast arising from the earth in Rev. 13:11 is said to resemble a lamb, but spoke like a dragon. It was a counterfeit messianic movement.

According to William Guy Carr, a Canadian Naval Commander during WW2, Adam Weishaupt was funded by Moses Mendelssohn, a very wealthy Jewish banker in his acquaintance. Why would a wealthy Jewish banker fund a Jesuit founder of the Illuminati? They had something in common--the desire for power, and a hatred for the Roman Church.

Amschel Bauer (Rothschild) was still a rather poor antique and coin dealer in 1776 when the Illuminati was founded. It was not until 1785 that Bauer met and developed a relationship with Prince William IX of Landgrave, who had come to the throne in that year. His relationship with the Prince was the key to his later wealth.

Amschel Bauer Rothschild was not a real factor in the French Revolution itself. It appears to have been the brainchild of Moses Mendelssohn, who died in 1786 three years before the start of the Revolution. Nesta Webster writes in Secret Societies and Subversive Movements, page 230,

"Whether, then, Weishaupt was directly inspired by Mendelssohn or any other Jew must remain for the present an open question. But the Jewish connexions of certain other Illuminati cannot be disputed. The most important of these was Mirabeau, who arrived in Berlin just after the death of Mendelssohn and was welcomed by his disciples in the Jewish salon of Henrietta Herz. It was these Jews, 'ardent supporters of the French Revolution' at its outset, who prevailed on Mirabeau to write his great apology for their race under the form of a panegyric of Mendelssohn."

Though Freemasonry itself was thought to be as anti-Jewish as it was anti-Catholic, it was neither--except perhaps among those in the lower degrees. The Jewish Encyclopedia itself says in its article on Freemasonry, "Jews have been most conspicuous in connexion with Freemasonry in France since the Revolution."

In 1794 Bauer also met Karl Buderus, who tutored William's illegitimate children. Buderus recommended that Bauer be allowed to join a firm bidding for the sale of English bills. Bauer was finally accepted in 1796. This was stated by Niall Fergusson in his book, The House of Rothschild, Vol. 1, page 62. He also says on page 45,

"At the beginning of the 1790s, Mayer Amschel Rothschild was no more than a prosperous antique-dealer. By 1797 he was one of the richest Jews in Frankfurt, and a central part of his business was unmistakably banking."

Finally, after Napoleon's defeat, the Congress of Vienna met to redraw the boundaries of European nations according to "The Holy Alliance." Niall Ferguson again writes on page 16 of Vol. 1 of The House of Rothschild, "the Rothschilds were notoriously the 'chief ally of the Holy Alliance'."

Therefore, it is clear that Napoleon was not the only one to arise out of the French Revolution. The House of Rothschild also rose to a position of wealth and prominence within 20 years. But whereas Napoleon lost power at Waterloo in 1815, the Rothschilds made a fortune out of his loss. Nathan Rothschild personally observed the battle from a safe place, and when the outcome was certain, he crossed the English Channel in a storm that night, and arrived at the London Exchange the following morning.

He arrived with a worried look on his face and began dumping stocks. Everyone knew he had seen the outcome of Waterloo, and they assumed that Napoleon had beaten the English general, Wellington. This started a selling frenzy, and stock prices collapsed. What they did not know was that Rothschild's agents were buying stocks as fast as he sold them. When the news arrived of Wellington's victory over Napoleon, everyone knew that they had been tricked. Stock prices returned to their normal high, and Nathan Rothschild is said to have quadrupled his portfolio within a day.

Niall Ferguson writes further in Vol. 1, page 6,

"Indeed, it can be argued that, by modifying the existing system for government borrowing to make bonds more easily tradable, the Rothschilds actually created the international bond market in its modern form."

This is the international bond market that is in trouble today. "Government borrowing" is now the leading cause of the economic problems in Europe and America. The "international bond market" is dangerously close to collapse, due to the threat of default by Greece, Italy, and Spain.

In the early 1800's, the Rothschilds came to dominate the governments of Europe by the power of money and loans. In doing so, the power of money replaced the spiritual power that the Roman Church had enjoyed over the European monarchs in past centuries. Hence, Rev. 13:12 says of this new beast, "And he exercises [poieo, "acquired"] all the authority of the first beast in his presence."

Yet at the same time, the Rothschilds had allied themselves with the Roman Church in an unholy "Holy Alliance." The Rothschilds became the bankers of the Church as well as of the monarchs. The Rothschilds had little interest in changing men's religious affiliation, and so Rev. 13:12 continues, "And he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed."

The Holy Alliance has made it difficult for historians to figure out who exactly is in control of this beast. Some say it is the Vatican; others say it is the Rothschilds. In my view, these two represent the two beasts of Revelation 13, and although both continue to function, the second beast has dominion over the first beast whose deadly wound was healed.

Throughout the 1800's, the Revolutionary Movement evolved into various forms of Socialism, perhaps culminating in 1848 with Karl Marx's treatise, The Communist Manifesto. While they gained popularity by promising equality and prosperity to the masses, the real goal was to overthrow the authority of the monarchs and the spiritual authority of Rome. Their desire was to gain hidden power over the monarchs and the popes.

So in spite of the Holy Alliance, the two beasts continued to fight each other for dominance. But the Church's power had receded since its fatal head wound and its power continued to be eroded. Finally, the Pope lost the Papal States, and a united Italy was formed in 1861, ruled by King Victor Emmanuel. In 1870 the king took control of Rome itself, and the Pope was reduced to the 70 acres of the Vatican itself. It was another near-fatal head wound."

Sister Elle,

We have a more sure word of prophecy, Niall Ferguson was not inspired by God as Mrs White and John the Revelator was.

But think about this sister.

Who was in power when Jesus was born and died? Rome; and some would argue that Rome was the foundation of the current world superpower banking system, (oldest current banks are in Italy since the 14th century) the word 'bank' comes from the old Italian word 'Banca' which means bench. In the time of Christ money changers sat on a bench in the temple exchanging common currency to temple currency, getting the Roman cut.

In time of Christ BANKING was a part of Roman worship. They held their wealth at the shrines of their gods.

Mussolini's day was the reinstatement of that system of monetary theocracy. Huge sums of money are laundered through the bank of Rome. They have been at the center of every major banking scandal since Jesus threw them out of the temple, twice.

Then you factor in America, the bold and the brash, and factor in the current vapor left from the housing bubble.

Look at the open statements from the Pope about the new world banking system, then get a picture of how the mark of the beast will be enforced. They are out for blood and they are using covert tactics to topple the worlds capitalistic financial infrastructure to gain their purposes.

Men like Rothschild and everyone in the Bilderberg Group and all of the current current 1,226 U.S. dollar billionaires worldwide are just the main benefactors of the wealth currently; because they happen to have the corruptible crown in their mitts at the moment. The Catholic church hates this because they want to have and control it all, but soon it will all go away.

The players are in play, the play is at the end of the first scene of it's final act.

The 'three fold union' is the key.

America is the second beast who sets up the image to the first beast Rome, but the main event, the "masterpiece of Satan" is, when he appears to the whole world as an angel of light, the man of sin. America's Hollywood has prepared the world for ghosts to be accepted and Satan is orchestrating it all.

I'm not so sure that history has explained it to some depth in this thread.

Re 13:11 And I saw another beast

Re 13:12 And he exerciseth all the authority of the first beast
"he"= 2nd beast.

Re 13:13 And he doeth great signs,

Re 13:14 And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by reason of the signs which it was given him to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who hath the stroke of the sword and lived.
"he"= 2nd

Re 13:16 And he causeth all,
In the link, you said "he" = 2nd, right?

Re 13:17 and that no man should be able to buy or to sell, save he that hath the mark, even the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Which beast? Which beast has it been talking about the 2nd making an image to which "beast who hath the stroke of the sword and lived"? Sounds like the mark is related to the first to me.

It's the second beast that elevates the first beast back into its primacy.

The papal church has always depended on getting strong political governments and legislation to enforce her brand of religion and "mark" of authority.

So yes, when apostate protestantism of America knocks down the separation of church and state and starts legislating religious matters while joining with Catholism (ecumenical movement in which the pope claims primacy) then the first beast's wound is healed and the papal mark which it claims as proof that the church tradition has authority over and above the commandments of God will be enforced.

The second beast enables the complete healing of the first beast, and will enforce the mark of the first beast. Thereby acknowledging its primacy on religious matters as higher than God's authority.

People might find it interesting to research "We are all Catholics now" on the internet

It does seem that Rev. 13:17 refers to the mark of the image beast.

Ellen White says in at least two passages that the mark is of the beast and of his image, that is, of both:

Those who would not receive the mark of the beast and his image when the decree goes forth, must have decision now to say, Nay, we will not regard the institution of the beast. {EW 67.2}

I saw all that "would not receive the mark of the Beast, and of his Image, in their foreheads or in their hands," could not buy or sell. [Revelation 13:15-17.] I saw that the number (666) of the Image Beast was made up; [Revelation 13:18.] and that it was the Beast that changed the Sabbath, and the Image Beast had followed on after, and kept the Pope's, and not God's Sabbath. And all we were required to do, was to give up God's Sabbath, and keep the Pope's, and then we should have the mark of the Beast, and of his image. {WLF 19.1}

Notice also that what she implies in this last passage is that the number 666 is of the image beast.

Exactly Rosangela.

It is all a matter of worship.

Cain received the 'mark', which crosses names from the book of life, by killing his brother Able after his altered form of worship was not accepted by God. By forcing his ideas in rebellion against God mandated form of worship, he cut himself off from God's redemptive power, sealing him for death.

The first beast receives the mark of death when their 'head' leads God's people into captivity and kills them during the 1,260 years.

After the head wound is healed, Babylon falls again when the so called protestants of America force their second beast to enforce the laws of the first beast. The daughters receive the mark as they do the killing in the first beasts honor.

The mark is more than a Sunday law that the second beast calls for, but an altered form of worship, a complete system, enforced by law, honoring ghosts.