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Lesson #2 - Jew and Gentile #126260
07/07/10 05:31 PM
07/07/10 05:31 PM
Rosangela  Offline OP
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This is the lesson material for lesson #2:

http://ssnet.org/qrtrly/eng/10c/less02.html

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Re: Lesson #2 - Jew and Gentile [Re: Rosangela] #126261
07/07/10 05:36 PM
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Rosangela  Offline OP
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Which laws continued to be binding after the cross and which didn't? Which were the criteria used to determine this?

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Re: Lesson #2 - Jew and Gentile [Re: Rosangela] #126278
07/10/10 12:01 AM
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We know that the ceremonial law, given by God through Moses, with its sacrifices and ordinances, was to be binding upon the Hebrews only until type met antitype in the death of Christ.

But what about the other laws? Which of them remained valid after the cross and why? The laws which remained valid after the cross seem to be those which applied universally and not just to the hebrews: the distinction between clean/unclean animals (Gen. 7:1-3); abstention from blood (Gen. 9:4) and from fat (Gen. 4:4); tithe (Gen. 14:20 - Melchizedek is a non-hebrew); and, obviously, moral principles - the ten commandments and commands which constitute an unfolding of the ten, like Lev. 18 and 19 (see Lev. 18:24-27, which speaks of gentiles).

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Re: Lesson #2 - Jew and Gentile [Re: Rosangela] #126280
07/10/10 07:01 AM
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Sorry I didn't get on this week. Was sick for a few days, then the wife and kids got sick. Sickening week.

The basic rule I use is that if it pointed to Christ's death (animal sacrifices, etc) and other anti-types that had already come, they are abolished. If the anti-type has not yet come (Feast of Tabernacles) then they are still binding. The rules that were not typical (do not commit adultery), which describe God's character, are binding forever.


By God's grace,
Arnold

There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Lesson #2 - Jew and Gentile [Re: asygo] #126281
07/10/10 11:15 AM
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Rosangela  Offline OP
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I hope you all have recovered by now!

Arnold, so do you mean that you believe the feast of tabernacles should still be observed? How, since it was also related to the temple, involved sacrifices, and was celebrated at a specific date of the lunisolar calendar of the Hebrews?

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Re: Lesson #2 - Jew and Gentile [Re: Rosangela] #126282
07/10/10 11:28 AM
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There are those who believe that all the feasts are still in effect.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

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Re: Lesson #2 - Jew and Gentile [Re: Daryl] #126285
07/10/10 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: Daryl F
There are those who believe that all the feasts are still in effect.


I have come across some Adventist that hold to that belief, but then they also extend that to other things such as wearing a ribband of blue according to the following:

Numbers 15 (King James Version)
37And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 38Speak unto the children of Israel, and bid them that they make them fringes in the borders of their garments throughout their generations, and that they put upon the fringe of the borders a ribband of blue: 39And it shall be unto you for a fringe, that ye may look upon it, and remember all the commandments of the LORD, and do them ; and that ye seek not after your own heart and your own eyes, after which ye use to go a whoring: 40That ye may remember, and do all my commandments, and be holy unto your God. 41I am the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: I am the LORD your God.

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Re: Lesson #2 - Jew and Gentile [Re: Rick H] #126296
07/10/10 03:21 PM
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The feast days also served as a prophecy and, as such, the unfulfilled aspects are still "binding". That is, Jesus is still going to fulfill them. But I see no need to observe them according to the specific directions God gave the Jews. Such commands pertained to the salvation aspect and not the prophetic aspect.

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Re: Lesson #2 - Jew and Gentile [Re: Mountain Man] #126324
07/11/10 06:33 PM
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There are aspects of the feasts that have met the anti-type, such as the killing of bulls and goats. Those are obviously abolished.

However, the aspects of the feasts that have not yet met the anti-type, such as those pointing to the Second Coming, should still be kept, though not in the same way since the sacrifices have been done away with.

But there were aspects of the law - and I use that term in a general sense, including the laws not written by God on stone - that were not typical, such as the dietary laws and laws on how to treat each other. Should these still be binding?


By God's grace,
Arnold

There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Lesson #2 - Jew and Gentile [Re: asygo] #126333
07/12/10 01:25 PM
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If I remember correctly, Campmeeting, which will be happening here in the Maritime Conference in less than two weeks, serves as a celebration of one of these feasts.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

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