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Can we ever get over racism? #195039
09/30/22 09:17 AM
09/30/22 09:17 AM
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I was looking at the news and they had a item on how even for popular figures in our culture they still are faced with racism at many levels...

"Racist 'Star Wars' fans aren't new. Why doesn't Disney do more to protect its actors?"

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/02/1102...nobi-moses-ingram-racist-messages-disney

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/star-wars-obi-wan-kenobi-reva-moses-ingram-disney/

I come from a diverse background and grew up in South Florida with friends from all ethnicities and so didnt consider it issue to come into contact with underlying racism. But one incident was a eye opener that I never forgot. We had gone up North for a convention and needed shoes to be resoled, so we went to a shoe repair shop and asked if we could get them done. Well the answer was they were too busy, so we asked if we could bring it the next day and the answer was no, so we asked if at the end of the week and still it was no, so we asked when we could bring it and the answer was still they were too busy this or the next week or basically ever. I didnt think anything of it as we turned to leave, but my mother whose accent was definitely picked up, turned back and uncharacteristically called the owner out. That is when I saw the true cost and affects of racism..

I dont have a accent or look Hispanic so I had never really experienced it, but now my eyes were opened. Some say you just let it go no matter what, while others say that words cant hurt, but even they have a breaking point or line that can be crossed as there is usually action associated with the words. So is racism something that can be stopped or overcome, or will it be with us to the end?

Re: Can we ever get over racism? [Re: Rick H] #195042
09/30/22 08:38 PM
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How horrible. The answer is "Yes" and "No" There are a few things we are born with. First and foremost are two attitudes for the world around us. Mrs. White describes this as "There is in man a disposition to esteem himself more highly than his breathern, to serve self, to seek the highest place and often this results in evil surmisings and bitterness of spirit." (the communion chapter in the Desire of Ages) The other is "When we love the world as he [Jesus] has loved it then for us his mission is accomplished we are fitted for heaven for we have heaven in our hearts." (DA 641)

The poet/philosopher Eli Siegel did much study in these two attitudes and said similar quotes to Mrs. White. He said "There is in every person a disposition to think they are for themselves by making less of the outside world" and "In order to respect oneself one needs to see the world as beautiful, good or acceptable" realizing how the world was becoming harder to like, but how we need to have an attitude to want the best for the world around us.

I got a copy of this book, sadly they sold out, but they are coming out with a new, expanded edition in late 2022 or early 2023 (I will be getting a copy) https://aestheticrealism.org/aesthetic-realism-and-the-answer-to-racism-2-2/

William Glasser also comments on this in talking about external control psychology, and his books also has good information in dealing with this fight. And so does Lois Eggers in her "Common Sense Psychology"

I understand the competition between these two attitudes as the very basic part of our faith. That the disposition to esteem ourselves more highly than others, to make less of the outside world, is our sinful nature. And our deepest desire is to love the world as Jesus has loved it. Even our best is tainted with selfishness/our disposition to make less of the outside world. And even at our worst, we are trying to force the world into a view that we think we need to be able to like it better.

While our sinful nature may always keep racism with us, through Christ we can see it in ourselves, criticize it and choose against it Mrs. White, Eli Siegel, William Glasser and Lois Eggers gives us special insight and approach to this issue.


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