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Re: Review: God of the possible
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Tom and Thomas, this thread slipped by without my noticing it. Must God have many laps in order to be omnipresent? How do you explain the fact God is omnipresent? What does it mean to you?
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Re: Review: God of the possible
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Looking at the number of posts and the number of times this topic was viewed, this was once a very popular topic, which suddently ceased after the last post in which the following three questions were asked:
1 - Must God have many laps in order to be omnipresent?
2 - How do you explain the fact God is omnipresent?
3 - What does it mean to you?
Can't anybody answer these questions?
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Re: Review: God of the possible
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i would have thought the bolded parts answered number 2. im not even going to get into number 1. number 3: that God is omnipresent throught the Holy Spirit and the angels. ED 132
The greatness of God is to us incomprehensible. "The Lord's throne is in heaven" (Psalm 11:4); yet by His Spirit He is everywhere present. He has an intimate knowledge of, and a personal interest in, all the works of His hand. (ED 132)
MH 417
The Bible shows us God in His high and holy place, not in a state of inactivity, not in silence and solitude, but surrounded by ten thousand times ten thousand and thousands of thousands of holy beings, all waiting to do His will. Through these messengers He is in active communication with every part of His dominion. By His Spirit He is everywhere present. Through the agency of His Spirit and His angels He ministers to the children of men. {MH 417.2}
Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?
Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.
Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
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Re: Review: God of the possible
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Do these quotes imply God the Father is not Himself omnipresent?
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Re: Review: God of the possible
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that is how i read them.
that raises the question of who decided God was omnipresent and whatever else we have attributed to Him?
where in the bible do we get the idea that He is omnipresent?
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Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?
Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.
Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
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Re: Review: God of the possible
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God is the Father, Son, and Spirit. Not three Gods, but that the three are one. If the Spirit is omnipresent, then God is omnipresent. Does this make sense?
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Re: Review: God of the possible
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if you buy into the trinity theory. and even then the people seem to be going "huh?!" at least from the sites ive seen.
now, it seems to me we either believe ellen white was spoken to by God to give us direction and guidance, or she wasnt. it isnt, sometimes, or she grew in understanding or any of that mumbo-jumbo. and we dont study "doctrines", or beliefs, then try to make the bible and egw fit those doctrines/beliefs. nor do we set the pioneers up over the sop.
one or the other. not bits, pieces, or what i want to believe.
one or the other
Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?
Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.
Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
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Re: Review: God of the possible
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Yeah, and I believe the SOP is as inspired as the Bible. Not that it is equal to the Bible in all ways. The Bible is preeminent. Did Ellen as a person grow in her understanding of the truth? Yes! But does that mean her earlier visions and dreams and revelations were not as inspired or as right as her later works? Of course not! God was the one revealing truths to her. She simply recorded what God told or showed her. She didn't see or hear things in dreams or visions and then record her opinions.
Based on what I've read in the Bible and in the SOP, I believe God is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Therefore, God is omnipresent. It makes sense to me. What about you?
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Re: Review: God of the possible
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Yeah, and I believe the SOP is as inspired as the Bible. Not that it is equal to the Bible in all ways. The Bible is preeminent. Did Ellen as a person grow in her understanding of the truth? Yes! But does that mean her earlier visions and dreams and revelations were not as inspired or as right as her later works? Of course not! God was the one revealing truths to her. She simply recorded what God told or showed her. She didn't see or hear things in dreams or visions and then record her opinions.
Based on what I've read in the Bible and in the SOP, I believe God is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Therefore, God is omnipresent. It makes sense to me. What about you? i dont read her in the trinity light, because i didnt know the trinity doctrine til just recently.
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Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?
Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.
Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
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Re: Review: God of the possible
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Have you read her statements on the Godhead? If so, what have you concluded? Is God the union of three eternal beings? Or, is God only the Father, and the Son and Spirit are not God in the same way the Father is, that the Father is the one and only true God?
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