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Re: The Suffering of the Lost
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12/15/09 06:46 PM
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"One sin" could either be cherished or not.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: The Suffering of the Lost
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12/16/09 04:25 PM
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Is one sin sufficient to cause sinners to die in judgment?
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Re: The Suffering of the Lost
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12/17/09 08:47 PM
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Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: The Suffering of the Lost
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12/18/09 04:54 PM
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Assuming you believe one sin is sufficient to cause sinners to die in judgment, the question is - Why won't they die right away? Why will the most sinful live longer before they die? Who or what will prevent them from dying prematurely?
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Re: The Suffering of the Lost
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12/18/09 10:48 PM
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You've already asked these questions, and I've answered them.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: The Suffering of the Lost
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12/19/09 04:06 PM
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Assuming you believe it is God who will supernaturally prevent them from dying prematurely, question is - Why? Is it so that they can suffer according to their sinfulness?
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Re: The Suffering of the Lost
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12/20/09 10:13 AM
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I assume you're speaking about during the judgment. The judgment is primarily about God. Every knee will bow to Jesus Christ. Not out of force, but out of conviction. Each one will be convinced that God has been just an righteous in all his ways. Clearly this couldn't happen if they were dead before they could make this judgment.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: The Suffering of the Lost
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Is it necessary for the wicked to acknowledge the justice of God? Or, is it necessary for God to punish and destroy them according to their sinfulness? Or, are both necessary?
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Re: The Suffering of the Lost
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Yes, it's necessary for all sentient beings to acknowledge the justice of God. Every knee will bow.
No, it's not necessary for God to punish or destroy them, at least not as a separate, arbitrary process. This happens naturally as a result of their actions in the judgment.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: The Suffering of the Lost
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Only time for a quickie...Yes, it's necessary for all sentient beings to acknowledge the justice of God. Every knee will bow. If so, then there is no reason for a sinner to live after his knee has bowed. Therefore, the moment their knee bows is the moment they die. Agreed? From another angle, how about those who will be "as if they had never been"? How come their knees don't bow?
By God's grace, Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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