From Wikipedia: "The Northern Hemisphere is the half of a planet that is north of its equator, the word hemisphere literally means “half sphere”... Earth's northern hemisphere contains most of the planet's land, and roughly 90% of its human population."

Due to the Earth's axial tilt, the summers are less extreme in the North and winters are less extreme in the south. Because of the large presence of water in the Southern Hemisphere, climate in the Earth's southern half is more mild overall than the Northern Hemisphere. In general, water heats and cools more slowly than land so water near any land area usually has a moderating effect on the land's climate. Since water surrounds land in much of the Southern Hemisphere, more of it is moderated than in the Northern Hemisphere.

The amount of land that receives snow fall in the southern hemisphere is negligible, almost non-existent where there is any people. Have you heard of anyone dying of hypothermia in south Africa?

Antarctica is the largest landmass in the Southern Hemisphere it is not populated because of its extremely harsh climate and the difficulty of building permanent settlements there. Any human development that has taken place in Antarctica consists of scientific research stations- most of which are operated only during the summer. Unlike the Arctic in the north the Antarctic in the south is cut off from any large masses of land, so there is nowhere to live that would be greatly affected by winter in the southern hemisphere.

Taking all of this into account the "majority of people effected by winter are in the Northern Hemisphere". So when Jesus said "pray that your flight be not in winter" He must have been talking about the Northern Hemisphere. Now do you get it?

To put it succinctly; Jesus was telling us to pray that the time of trouble does not occur especially between the months of December and February.

Here is an animated map of the snow coverage of the earth all year long. How much snow do you see in the southern hemisphere?


It could be argued that He would want the same for the southern hemisphere because they are slightly affected by their winter, so the most logical prayer would be for God to hold the four winds, the time of trouble, until spring or fall so both hemispheres would not be affected in any way.

Not totally --
While it does make reference to the beast's existance before it's fatal wound,and to it's "death", (The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend) the main and overwhelming focus of this beast is on endtimes.

To establish precedent --
The first beast of Rev. 13 shows it has merged within itself the empires of the past. (bear feet, mouth of lion, body leopard)

The creatures (there are three) in Rev. 12,13 give us the three key players in the last day drama -- spiritualism, papal, protestant America. It gives a bit of history for each and gives an endtime picture of their final activities.



So in Rev. 17 -- the beast seems to have merged from the "three" (dragon, beast 1, beast 2) into "one". Notice he is now red

A distinction is also made between the religious element "woman",
and the political element "beast".

Hence my question if you were implying the 144 thousand (or the majority of them) will only exist in the northern hemisphere?
I'm sorry, but it just comes across to me as arrogant of you towards others in the southern hemisphere. Do you think God does not have people in Argentina, South Africa, Australia? I mean, what if you lived in Hawaii, would you not care about the rest of the world?

James, I'm no expert on the geo-spatial relationships of the earth and the sun throughout its orbit, but something tells me this is not correct.

Now you might have a point here. In generalities. Which is what I'm objecting to - generalities.


Again, generalities, and moderated does not mean not cold. Antarctica is moderated.

On your animated map, I see the about same amount of snow in the southern as in the northern hemisphere. Unless you are talking about Greenland. But, what's this about snow? What about cold? And if one half gets temperatures of -40 and the other half with people gets temperatures of -45, does that mean those in the former do not count?

Ummm...
Have you heard of anyone dying of hyperthermia in Greenland?
Do you see how invalid the question is?
What does me hearing or not hearing from another part of the world have anything to do with reality?
What do people's health condition have to do with temperatures.

Nope.

But I can see your point if you have decided it's going to take less than a year, it must be referring to those in the Northern Hemisphere. But someone else can come along and first come up with it's going to take less than a week and then conclude therefore, when Jesus said, "But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:", that can only mean it's less than a week. Two-three days of time of trouble, in the spring or fall, intense and concentrated of course just like anything would be that's a fraction of 1260 years, piece of cake.


I think your analysis of Jesus' statement needs further study.

The "flight" is not the same as the "duration" of the time of trouble.

The "flight" is when people leave the comfort of their home and run for their lives. That may only last a few days.

the "duration" is the amount of time the people are in hiding (if they made their escape) During the duration hopefully they have been able to find or make some sort of shelter.

Thus God's people need to pray that the FLIGHT be not in winter -- (spring and autumn is not winter anywhere on planet earth)

Note:
Yes there is snow in the southern countries of S.America, right now. And except for Antarctica winters are not as severe in the Southern Hemisphere, as in the north, and yes the majority of people in the world live in the Northern Hemisphere or just south of the equator (where there is no real winter).

Where do you get the assumption that I said the 144,000 come from the Northern Hemisphere? Do you see mention of them anywhere here? The 144,000 will be symbolically like 12,000 sets of twelve apostles covering the whole world. This is what I have believed for over 10 years.

We are to pray that our flight, which happens at the Sunday Law decree, does not occur in winter so children and the weak will not be exposed to get hypothermia. If our prayers are answered, the flight would be in spring or Fall which is also when Orion's Belt, the direction Jesus comes from, can be seen world wide. In fact the feast of Tabernacles (late Sept - Oct) occurs in our Fall around the Autumnal equinox (Sept 22) so this would be the ideal time for Jesus to come in fulfillment of the feast. (Just a theory)

Jesus also asked us to pray that the time of trouble does not occur on the Sabbath. So if the prayers are answered, which I have no reason to believe they will not be, the Sunday law would be ratified on another day of the week so we do not have to travel on the Sabbath, which most Adventists do anyway (something to think about) so we can get far enough away from our homes not to be caught.

On your next point, the earth is closer to the sun when the southern hemisphere is having their summer making their summers warmer as seen here...



I do know it will take longer than a week for the time of trouble but it is not years as presented by my friend Mark.

As I mentioned before, the 10 horns lend their strength to the beast for 'about one hour' in Rev 17. This one hour in prophetic time comes to two literal weeks.

I believe Satan will appear as an angel of light and the world will wander after the beast and enforce his dogma in support of the false miracles he presents and the leaders of the fallen protestant churches will give their support of this Satanic/ Papal delusion, the sixth of the seven last popes appearing to be sent from God to prepare for the Satanic false coming of Jesus. So when he walks the earth before the kings and leaders of earth the world will fall headlong after him and give their strength to supporting this delusion, then prophecy will be fulfilled with lightning speed. So two literal weeks after the satanic delusion the plagues will come. All in all, it will take about a month to fulfill the rest of the end time prophecies once the man of sin is revealed and we are filled with the later rain.

Kland sometimes I think you say things just to be contrary!



Are you totally daft? Are looking at the same animated map that covers the whole year in animated elapsed time as I posted? Look at the snow FALL not the antarctic where no one lives. Look at the inhabited areas of the Southern Hemisphere. Do you see significant snowfall accumulate in the south where the people are? Chile gets the most down under but it is mostly in the mountains where very few people live. It never gets to -40 in the inhabited regions of down under. Unless you are in the Himalayan mountains it barely ever gets to the minus side of the Fahrenheit scaled thermometer (0 F = -18 C). If you have never been there why do act like an expert? I've been around the world and I speak from experience.

In Fact 'Cape Horn' the southern most inhabitable region of down under at the southern most tip of South America has an average temp of 42F and gets down to 0F. The southern most inhabited city is Ushuaia and it has a subpolar oceanic climate. Temperatures average 1.6 °C (34.9 °F) in the coolest month (July), and 10.4 °C (50.7 °F) in the warmest month (January).

Do you know how cold it gets in Prudhoe Bay Alaska (not even the Northern Most inhabitable town) Where I've been in summer and winter? (My Father helped build the pipeline) -45 F with -76 F windchill.

All of the coldest inhabited cities on earth are in the northern hemisphere. Oymyakon, a village in Oymyakonsky Ulus of the Sakha Republic, Russia, located along the Indigirka River has the coldest monthly mean with -46 °C (-51 °F) as the daily average in January, the coldest month. Eureka, Nunavut, Canada has the lowest annual mean temperature at -19.7 °C (-3.5 °F).

It Is Better To Hold Your Tongue And Be Thought A Fool Than To Open Your Mouth And Remove All Doubt.

I reread what I posted above and I said Himalayan mountains but I meant to say the Andes Mountains. I've seen both.