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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: dedication] #121603
11/15/09 04:58 AM
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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: dedication] #121604
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Tx Dedication for these links and the other. Are these reports reliable? It almost sounds too horrible to be true.

Is Ukraine the only country that this lethal bio-weapon was release via an engineered vaccine? If so, why would they choose Ukraine over other countries? Do I understand correctly, the whole country is quarantine? I see that it is quite important that in such case to impose the quarantine.


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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: Elle] #121610
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Elle & Dedication: It appears the Ukraine panic is a heightened version of the world 'pandemic' scare - very good for profits & politics. Ukraine is in an election race. The first article is by William Engdahl, a seasoned geopolitical academic & author.

The video is a Polish news documentary. Turn off the sound; English subtitles, with Austrian journalist Jane Burgermeister & the Baxter story.

It's noteworthy that Poland is reacting with common sense - no jabs with an untested cocktail.

Ukraine, WHO & Geopolitics of Swine Flu Panic:
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=55&contentid=6432

VIDEO: Contaminated H1N1 Vaccines?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16075

Poland won't buy H1N1 vaccine until 'properly tested':
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15990
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The evidence mounts that the world is held captive by Satan's fearmongering and the love of money by politicians at all levels. Let us instead fear God, give glory to Him and Come out of her my people.
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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: gordonb1] #121618
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An interview with Victor Bachinsky, senior Ukraine pathologist/coroner, also quoted in one of Dedication's links above.

Ukraine Flu Outbreak: Virus Is a Mixture of H1N1 and Parainfluenza, Causes Cardiopulmonary Failure:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16088

Note his emphasis on the immune system as conditional to survival, and his warning against use of antibiotics.
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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: Elle] #121626
11/16/09 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted By: Elle


Is Ukraine the only country that this lethal bio-weapon was release via an engineered vaccine? If so, why would they choose Ukraine over other countries? Do I understand correctly, the whole country is quarantine? I see that it is quite important that in such case to impose the quarantine.


I don't know how much is "fear mongering" and how much is truth.
The story changes as the days go by.

The first news was that something worse than H1N1 had hit the Ukraine and there were people saying this was a manufactured disease similar to double pneumonia -- a pneumonic plague.

Later, as Gordon also pointed out, it was revealed it wasn't pneumonia at all but a disease that attacked the lungs and caused them to hemorrhage -- very destructive to the transmission of oxygen to the body!

At first some implied that it came through the vaccine, but now it seems they are saying it was launched to scare people into taking the vaccine because people in Ukraine were anti-vaccine.

There are even some who say airplanes sprayed the disease in the Ukraine Airplanes over Ukraine



It does seem that politics and money are playing a big part in this mess.
Tymoshenko lies about flu epidemic?

If leaders are messing around with people's health -- woe to the world!

I hope it is only propaganda --
Every year some people come down with the flu, most recover, some don't.

The best precaution is to have a strong immune system.

Re: SWINE FLU [Re: dedication] #121629
11/16/09 04:49 AM
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I just discovered the following response to a pro-H1N1 vaccine article online:

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Dr. Gold gave us lots of reasons to get a flu vaccine. She dismisses any concerns about adverse effects. She also says that "the current method for making the H1N1 vaccine is the same as that for the seasonal flu vaccine."

Anytime I read where a medical professional vouches for the safety of the flu vaccine and doesn't mention the words "mercury" or "thimerosal," I know we're not being told the whole truth.

Eighty percent of the flu vaccine available contains a massive mercury assault. The H1N1 vaccine will only add to the mercury load. With the annual flu vaccine a child from 6 months to age three receiving a flu vaccine gets 12.5 mcg of mercury. Someone would have to weigh at least 275 pounds according to the EPA in order to handle that much mercury. One month later, another 12.5 booster is recommended. Older children receive the adult vaccine with 25 mcg of mercury. That much mercury is meant for someone weighing 550 pounds according to the EPA.

The trials supposedly show the H1N1 vaccine to be safe, yet THE TRIAL VACCINES WERE WITHOUT THIMEROSAL.

The mercury-based vaccine preservative thimerosal goes back 75 years. It was invented and tested Eli Lilly Pharmaceutical Company in 1930. The one study done on thimerosal was done by Eli Lilly on 22 adult patients suffering from meningitis. There was no chance for follow-up to observe long-term effects, as all of the patients died. Even if follow-up had been possible, damage to the developing brains of very young children would have remained an unknown. Eli Lilly said it was safe and the medical community just accepted it. After the creation of the FDA, its use was simply continued. This unconscionable oversight failure should call any safety claim into question.
This vaccine is also recommended for pregnant women at all stages of pregnancy. The huge mercury assault easily passes the placental barrier and enters the developing fetus whose tiny brain is just forming. Incredibly, the manufacturers of the flu vaccine state in their published information that accompanies the vaccine that it's never been tested on pregnant women.
http://www.safeminds.org/about/documents/SM%20Flu%20Brochure%202009-2010.pdf

The CDC has endless pharma-funded studies showing that it's safe to inject mercury into humans, especially pregnant women, but I've never seen a toxicologist backing them up.

Finally I would ask you to read this report from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel from 2007, Most flu shots contain mercury, but few know it http://www.jsonline.com/news/29295284.html. The reporter gave us plenty of reasons to question the safety of the flu vaccine.

Anne Dachel
Media editor: Age of Autism http://www.ageofautism.com/


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We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: SWINE FLU [Re: dedication] #121630
11/16/09 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: dedication

If leaders are messing around with people's health -- woe to the world!


Leaders have been messing with people's health for many years.

Whethere they be political, legislative, medical, educational, business, financial, military or spiritual leaders, they have all been messing with minds in their own areas.

And usually we support and encourage them, to our own hurt.

Indeed, woe to the world!

Christ is the only leader we can trust.
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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: gordonb1] #121650
11/17/09 09:56 PM
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The one study done on thimerosal was done by Eli Lilly on 22 adult patients suffering from meningitis.

That's why people can "honestly" say that no study has shown thimerosal to cause harm.

Re: SWINE FLU [Re: kland] #149199
01/23/13 11:55 PM
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Swine flu shot causing narcolepsy

Sweden's vaccination program is now called a "medical tragedy" by the health official who coordinated it.
http://health.yahoo.net/news/s/nm/insight-evidence-grows-for-narcolepsy-link-to-gsk-swine-flu-shot

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STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Emelie is plagued by hallucinations and nightmares. When she wakes up, she's often paralyzed, unable to breathe properly or call for help. During the day she can barely stay awake, and often misses school or having fun with friends. She is only 14, but at times she has wondered if her life is worth living.

Emelie is one of around 800 children in Sweden and elsewhere in Europe who developed narcolepsy, an incurable sleep disorder, after being immunized with the Pandemrix H1N1 swine flu vaccine made by British drugmaker GlaxoSmithKline in 2009.

Finland, Norway, Ireland and France have seen spikes in narcolepsy cases, too, and people familiar with the results of a soon-to-be-published study in Britain have told Reuters it will show a similar pattern in children there.

Their fate, coping with an illness that all but destroys normal life, is developing into what the health official who coordinated Sweden's vaccination campaign calls a "medical tragedy" that will demand rising scientific and medical attention....

GSK says 795 people across Europe have reported developing narcolepsy since the vaccine's use began in 2009.


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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: Elle] #149204
01/24/13 10:09 AM
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I have a good friend, a medical doctor, who spends much of his time curing patients from the side effects of various vaccinations. He claims that side effects of vaccines cause greater sufferings than the diseases these vaccines prevent.


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