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Vision of Healing - A study of the book of Revelation #152810
06/03/13 04:35 AM
06/03/13 04:35 AM
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Sigve Tonstad, MD, PhD, is presenting a college level series for LLU on the book of Revelation titled, "Vision of Healing". He is the author of the book "Saving God Reputation" which is the basis of this series. I believe there will 17 lectures in this series. The first lecture can be found here:



Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Vision of Healing - A study of the book of Revelation [Re: APL] #152892
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Sigve's older brother was a schoolmate of mine - and later this brother was the elder of a church where I was the pastor. Already in academy Sigve was a spiritual leader among the students.

Sigve Tonstad has also written the book "The Lost Meaning of the Seventh Day."

Last edited by Johann; 06/05/13 10:25 AM.

"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
Re: Vision of Healing - A study of the book of Revelation [Re: Johann] #153774
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It would be interesting to hear Green or Daryl attempt a rebuttal to Sigve Tonstad's series.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Vision of Healing - A study of the book of Revelation [Re: APL] #153817
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When time permits, I plan to watch this.


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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Vision of Healing - A study of the book of Revelation [Re: Daryl] #153889
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7 Trumpets:
LaRondelle - "God's covenant curses on His enemies"
Paulien - "the primary focus is on punitive judgment"
Stefanovic - "righteous judgments and vengeance upone those who viciously harassed and oppressed the faithful"

Richard Bauckham - "The Apocalypse of John is a work of immense learning, astonishingly meticulous literary artistry, remarkable creative imagination, radical political critique, and profound theology". It does not give us a different Jesus.

Luther - "Christ is neither taught nor known in it."
Dodd - "below the level ... of the teaching of Jesus" and "the best parts of the Old Testament."

Tonstad
(1) Revelation explains human reality within a cosmic framework. Nero's foot is too small for the shoe of Revelation's imagery.
(2) Theologies of retribution fail because they do not take the cosmic conflict seriously. In interpretations of Revelation, who is doing what is the crucial question.

Vision of healing.
"He will wipe every tear from their eyes, Death will be no more; mourning and crying and pain will be no more, for the first things have passed away" Rev 21:4

Revelation 22:3-4 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: 4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Vision of Healing - A study of the book of Revelation [Re: APL] #154008
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Still need to find or take enough time to watch this.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

http://www.christians-discuss.com/forum/index.php
Re: Vision of Healing - A study of the book of Revelation [Re: APL] #154051
07/10/13 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: APL
It would be interesting to hear Green or Daryl attempt a rebuttal to Sigve Tonstad's series.


It might be essential to read the Ministry of Healing at the same time -


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
Re: Vision of Healing - A study of the book of Revelation [Re: APL] #154052
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Originally Posted By: APL
It would be interesting to hear Green or Daryl attempt a rebuttal to Sigve Tonstad's series.

Quite frankly, I don't have time right now. I'm engaged in several other very pressing projects that stand to benefit hundreds of people, and there is a sense of urgency to see them to completion. It is not expedient for me to take time to rebut each and every view that may be brought up here, when each one participating here has the Bible and the Holy Spirit to guide him or her in the search for truth.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.

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