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Re: Should women wear only dresses? [Re: Mountain Man] #189818
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Originally Posted by Mountain Man
Kland, I go with the cultural angle. Topless is modest in certain tribes around the world and forbidden elsewhere.

Is topless manly or feminine?

Re: Should women wear only dresses? [Re: kland] #189821
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Originally Posted by Mountain Man
Kland, I go with the cultural angle. Topless is modest in certain tribes around the world and forbidden elsewhere.

Which if you are making an argument for the cultural angle, what about women wearing pants today? Culturally, women wear pants, it is accepted.

And what about Scottish men coming to America, should they abandon their kilts? Or if enough gender confused people are out there, no problem?

Re: Should women wear only dresses? [Re: kland] #189834
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Whatever is culturally acceptable within the community of believers.

Re: Should women wear only dresses? [Re: kland] #189837
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Would you go with culture even if it goes against what the Bible says?


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Re: Should women wear only dresses? [Re: Daryl] #189847
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Originally Posted by Daryl
Would you go with culture even if it goes against what the Bible says?
This is a complicated question involving many assumptions. It also strongly implies a judgement/condemnation of people for "going against the Bible."

In the first place, I don't care who you are or how you interpret the Bible, myself included, I can point out cases where you do what culture dictates or accepts rather than what the Bible says. Period. So we are all guilty of that.

Second, WHAT culture, WHERE, in what TIME PERIOD? And what DOES the Bible say, and WHO says THAT is what it means?

Third, the only reason ANY OF US are Christian is because we were born into Christian cultures or families. If you were born in a Muslim country, or Muslim family, you would be Muslim. If you were born in a Buddhist country or family, you would be Buddhist. You are what your environment was when you were a child. Prov. 22:6 "Train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it."

So all this trash-talk about "I just follow Scripture..." No you don't. You use Scripture to justify your life style and choices, and pick-and-choose what parts of Scripture you want to follow and what parts you want to discard.


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Re: Should women wear only dresses? [Re: kland] #189850
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Nadi, it's too bad there are so few people who live in harmony with the Bible. Even the Apostle Paul used the Bible to disregard OT requirements such as Circumcission and Blood Sacrifices. My point is - changing times and circumstances allow options and changes in how we worship and obey God. Many details named in the Law of Moses (603 in total according to some) were written while believers were living under a Theocracy and took into account the lifestyle choices of surrounding unbelieving nations. All of those additional laws and details served to support and fulfill the 10 Commandments. Everything boils down to this - "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil." Eccl 12:13-14. Of all the multitudinous cultural lifestyle choices and practices from one end of the Earth to the other there is plenty of room within the 10C to accommodate most of them as they pertain to dress and diet and doctrine. There are many ways to live holy, righteous, scrupulous lives in the sight of our Almighty and Loving God and Savior.

Re: Should women wear only dresses? [Re: kland] #189851
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Daryl, no, I would not knowingly, willingly live in violation of God's revealed will.

Re: Should women wear only dresses? [Re: Mountain Man] #189858
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Originally Posted by Mountain Man
Daryl, no, I would not knowingly, willingly live in violation of God's revealed will.

Neither would I.


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Re: Should women wear only dresses? [Re: Mountain Man] #189874
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Originally Posted by Mountain Man
Nadi, it's too bad there are so few people who live in harmony with the Bible. Even the Apostle Paul used the Bible to disregard OT requirements such as Circumcission and Blood Sacrifices.

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All of those additional laws and details served to support and fulfill the 10 Commandments.

It sounds like you are saying Paul did not live in harmony with the Bible and cast aside those requirements to support and fulfill the 10 Commandments.

What do you really mean?

Re: Should women wear only dresses? [Re: kland] #189878
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There are 600+ additional laws God gave Moses to regulate daily lifestyle choices and practices to ensure His people are living in harmony with the 10C. As time moves on, so do God's requirements. Circumcision, for example, is no longer applicable. Paul explains why in the NT. Not circumcising is no longer a sin. So too, not sacrificing animals is no longer a sin. Plus, God's people are no longer under a Jewish Theocracy and, therefore, many of the OT laws no longer apply. So, should women wear pants or not? It depends on the time and place. In the USA back in Ellen White's time? No! It was culturally unacceptable. But nowadays it is no longer viewed as culturally immoral (again, depending on the style). If women wear pants in a way Christians consider morally tasteful - it is in keeping with the 10C.

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