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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 2 [Re: His child] #187193
08/08/18 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: His child
Those who reject the Lord's invitation are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

That is true. John 3:16.

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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 2 [Re: JAK] #187195
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Originally Posted By: JAK
Adventists universally think that they are "The Church."

In all my years in the SDA Church, at least in my neck of the woods, I never heard anybody say that the SDA Church is "The Church." Instead, I heard that "The Church" is made up of true believers (true Christians) in all the different churches.

After saying this, I do believe that the Lord raised up the SDA Church to proclaim truths that have been almost lost over the centuries, some of them being the seventh-day Sabbath and the State of the Dead.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 2 [Re: Daryl] #187196
08/09/18 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
Originally Posted By: JAK
Adventists universally think that they are "The Church."

In all my years in the SDA Church, at least in my neck of the woods, I never heard anybody say that the SDA Church is "The Church." Instead, I heard that "The Church" is made up of true believers (true Christians) in all the different churches.

After saying this, I do believe that the Lord raised up the SDA Church to proclaim truths that have been almost lost over the centuries, some of them being the seventh-day Sabbath and the State of the Dead.
Daryl - do you believe the Testimonies? God destroys no one. {5T 120.1}


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 2 [Re: Daryl] #187197
08/09/18 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
Originally Posted By: JAK
Adventists universally think that they are "The Church."

In all my years in the SDA Church, at least in my neck of the woods, I never heard anybody say that the SDA Church is "The Church." Instead, I heard that "The Church" is made up of true believers (true Christians) in all the different churches.


I would disagree with you Daryl. It's in our teachings. We believe that other Christians will come in our church during the shaking and a lot of SDAs will be shaken out...but our "boat" [church] is going to make it.


Blessings
Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 2 [Re: APL] #187198
08/09/18 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted By: APL

Daryl - do you believe the Testimonies? God destroys no one. {5T 120.1}

I'm glad you brought it up.

Shall we open a new thread for that?


Blessings
Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 2 [Re: James Peterson] #187205
08/09/18 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: His child
Those who reject the Lord's invitation are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

That is true. John 3:16.

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Remember the FLOOD. They rejected knowledge even though God LOVED them. They perished (were destroyed)

Remember Christ. God loved Him, but did not spare Him from dying.

Those who reject knowledge reject God's love. They will face the consequences

Does God pour out His wrath or allow people to reap what they have sown?

Last edited by His child; 08/09/18 01:37 PM.

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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 2 [Re: Elle] #187206
08/09/18 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: APL

Daryl - do you believe the Testimonies? God destroys no one. {5T 120.1}

I'm glad you brought it up.

Shall we open a new thread for that?
No. This is about the testimonies, and now they are rejected, and they are being rejected in the most obvious ways and most don't want to see it.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 2 [Re: His child] #187207
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Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: His child
Those who reject the Lord's invitation are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

That is true. John 3:16.

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Remember the FLOOD. They rejected knowledge even though God LOVED them. They perished (were destroyed)

Remember Christ. God loved Him, but did not spare Him from dying.

Those who reject knowledge reject God's love. They will face the consequences

Does God pour out His wrath or allow people to reap what they have sown?

That is why:
  • Jesus told Nicodemus in John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His Only-begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should have everlasting life, and not perish."
     
  • And told His disciples in Acts 1:8, "... you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth."
     
  • So that Paul reminded the Corinthians , "And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified." 1 Cor. 2:1-2
Jesus Christ is the test, the dividing line, the Judge, the lightning rod and the hope of salvation. It is not right that anyone should supplant this test with something else or any other, saying, "Either you affirm this or that or you are anathema!"1

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1 List of excommunicable offences from the Council of Trent of the Roman Catholic Church.

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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 2 [Re: APL] #187214
08/10/18 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: APL
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: APL

Daryl - do you believe the Testimonies? God destroys no one. {5T 120.1}

I'm glad you brought it up.

Shall we open a new thread for that?
No. This is about the testimonies, and now they are rejected, and they are being rejected in the most obvious ways and most don't want to see it.

Well when you have statements from the testimonies that oppose what scripture says and even oppose what the Church believes... like "God destroys no one" when SDA believe that at the Great White throne God will trow more than 90% of all the people that existed in a LITERAL lake of fire and will completely annihilate them....

Don't you see any problems with that statement? Isn't it a good reason for people to come to reject the testimonies?

BTW. I do believe that that statement has some truth; but only by properly defining the word "destroy" according to scriptures and knowing the full plan of salvation that includes the first stage that the seeds must die (be destroy) before it can resurrect into a new creature. That's why scriptures says in many places "God destroys" whereas no where we can find "Satan [or the devil] destroy". Do the search yourself and see what scriptures says.

Perhaps this "foretelling of the rejection of the Testimonies" has been made not by Ellen White but by those that infiltrated the Church after 1888 and earlier so to keep the people inside with fear to come to reject the testimonies.


Blessings
Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 2 [Re: Charity] #187216
08/10/18 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: elle
Well when you have statements from the testimonies that oppose what scripture says and even oppose what the Church believes... like "God destroys no one" when SDA believe that at the Great White throne God will trow more than 90% of all the people that existed in a LITERAL lake of fire and will completely annihilate them....

Don't you see any problems with that statement? Isn't it a good reason for people to come to reject the testimonies?
Literal lake of fire - is that what happened to Christ?

elle - EGW is right. You are not. your trust is in "god-kingdom-ministries.com" and paving material.

And just because a majority of the SDA church sees God as a destroying god, does not make it truth. We have ample evidence in the Bible what God is really like. You should get to know Him, as He is!


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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