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God is wrapping it up! #188139
12/25/18 12:25 PM
12/25/18 12:25 PM
His child  Offline OP
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Your feedback is important. I only ask that you watch the entire video before you tear it apart.

David Gates and Mark Finley are featured in the intro. It is a slide show Bible Study. Long and complex, but Keep it Simple Saints was a constant goal.



"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: God is wrapping it up! [Re: His child] #188144
12/26/18 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: His child
Your feedback is important. I only ask that you watch the entire video before you tear it apart.

David Gates and Mark Finley are featured in the intro. It is a slide show Bible Study. Long and complex, but Keep it Simple Saints was a constant goal.

Shouldn't you be feeding the poor and lending a listening ear to the downtrodden instead?

SDA are like the Jews of the first century, burying their heads in the written word so deep, they do not see that Christ is passing right by them. They are like jittery guards, zealously guarding the temple dedicated to the holiness of their "SATURDAY"; and should anyone even thread upon its terrace, they arise like a horde of mad men, pitching fiery darts and screaming, "UNCLEAN! UNCLEAN!"

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Re: God is wrapping it up! [Re: His child] #188145
12/26/18 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: His child
Your feedback is important. I only ask that you watch the entire video before you tear it apart.


You're saying the judgment of the living began in February or March of 2013 right? And, tell me if I understood you, you're saying after the end of the judgment of the living the 144,000 are sealed? And you're saying Gates and Finley can't both be right and implying both are wrong? But you think Michael will soon stand up. When do you think that will be and what will happen; the sealing? BTY, I agree with you that Michael will soon stand up. The sealing is going on now imo. If judgment begins at the house of God, the sealing does too. Thanks for sharing.

Re: God is wrapping it up! [Re: James Peterson] #188155
12/28/18 03:05 PM
12/28/18 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: His child
Your feedback is important. I only ask that you watch the entire video before you tear it apart.

David Gates and Mark Finley are featured in the intro. It is a slide show Bible Study. Long and complex, but Keep it Simple Saints was a constant goal.

Shouldn't you be feeding the poor and lending a listening ear to the downtrodden instead?

SDA are like the Jews of the first century, burying their heads in the written word so deep, they do not see that Christ is passing right by them. They are like jittery guards, zealously guarding the temple dedicated to the holiness of their "SATURDAY"; and should anyone even thread upon its terrace, they arise like a horde of mad men, pitching fiery darts and screaming, "UNCLEAN! UNCLEAN!"

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Get busy feeding the poor and neglect the spiritual side of life?
To do the one to the neglect of the other?

Did Noah's contemporaries rebuke him for spending so much time in building an ark when there were poor people in need his help?


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: God is wrapping it up! [Re: Charity] #188156
12/28/18 03:22 PM
12/28/18 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: Charity

You're saying the judgment of the living began in February or March of 2013 right?


No. The time allotted to judge the dead and the living ended 14 February 2013.

Originally Posted By: Charity

And, tell me if I understood you, you're saying after the end of the judgment of the living the 144,000 are sealed?


Yes. They cannot be sealed if they have not been judged worthy.

Originally Posted By: Charity

And you're saying Gates and Finley can't both be right and implying both are wrong?


No. They both have some truth. But neither have arrived at all the truth that there is yet to find. If they continue to look, the promise is "Seek and ye shall find." If they rest on the truth that they have the warning to Laodicea is that Jesus will not accept them. That warning goes for us as well.

Originally Posted By: Charity

But you think Michael will soon stand up.



After Michael Pence stands up for his people, Michael (Jesus will stand for His people). The counterfeit and the true.

Originally Posted By: Charity
When do you think that will be and what will happen; the sealing?


Soon after Trump's impeachment is my gut feeling. The Holy Spirit cannot be poured out upon God's people before the are ready.
"The last events will be rapid ones."

I'm still studying. My videos are at www.loudcry101.com and you tube. As I learn I try to make a slide show that shows what I know at the time.


Originally Posted By: Charity
BTY, I agree with you that Michael will soon stand up. The sealing is going on now imo. If judgment begins at the house of God, the sealing does too. Thanks for sharing.


Thanks for your feedback. Remember to share my website info. There are a lot of people who are still sleeping and need to awake before the Bridegroom arrives.

Last edited by His child; 12/28/18 03:24 PM.

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Re: God is wrapping it up! [Re: His child] #188163
12/30/18 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: Charity

You're saying the judgment of the living began in February or March of 2013 right?


No. The time allotted to judge the dead and the living ended 14 February 2013.

Originally Posted By: Charity

And, tell me if I understood you, you're saying after the end of the judgment of the living the 144,000 are sealed?


Yes. They cannot be sealed if they have not been judged worthy.

Bare with me; I'd like to understand what you're saying. You're saying the judgment of the living ended Feb. 14, 2013 and the sealing of the 144,000 began then, right. Have a look at chapter 28 of the GC, Facing Life's Record. As I understand it, once our cases are judged our probation is over. The judgment of the living and the sealing are concurrent. What's your thinking? How can the sealing take place afterward?

Re: God is wrapping it up! [Re: His child] #188164
12/30/18 10:09 PM
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Getting ready for the "bride groom" is NOT based on any time speculation.

To say people have already been judged and sealed some years back, is to say probation is over.
It is not.
To present that as "the message" is a message of utter discouragement, not a message to prepare and come in full trust and commitment to Christ. What it is saying is -- its too late, if you haven't turned to God, forget about it, the sealing and judgment is over. That is sooo wrong -- The Lord has not yet closed His heavenly work, and to say He has is playing god and slamming a pretend door shut while God holds still holds the door of salvation open, pleading for all to come.
I fully believe there will be a lot of people who will yet respond -- yes, even among Adventists who have been held back for various reasons, will throw aside all restraints and give themselves fully to Christ.


All this date setting is -- according to EGW -- WRONG.

Yes, Christ's coming is at the door, but we do NOT know the day or year when the last outpouring of the Holy Spirit occurs, when the judgment ceases, when probation closes or when Christ comes.

Basically -- I find all this speculation on times and dates DEFEATS the real message. It's all about arousing EXCITMENT and EMOTION, not about committing ourselves to serve the Lord.

Quote:
Should we advance in spiritual knowledge, we would see the truth developing and expanding in lines of which we have little dreamed, but it will never develop in any line that will lead us to imagine that we may know the times and the seasons which the Father hath put in His own power. Again and again have I been warned in regard to time setting. There will never again be a message for the people of God that will be based on time. We are not to know the definite time either for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit or for the coming of Christ. {1SM 188.1}

The Lord showed me that the message must go, and that it must not be hung on time; for time will never be a test again. I saw that some were getting a false excitement, arising from preaching time, that the third angel's message can stand on its own foundation, and that it needs not time to strengthen it, and that it will go with mighty power, and do its work, and will be cut short in righteousness. {1SM 188.3}
"I saw some were making everything bend to this next fall; that is, making their calculations, and disposing of their property in reference to that time. I saw that this was wrong for this reason: instead of going to God daily, and earnestly desiring to know their present duty, they looked ahead, and made their calculations as though they knew that the work would end this fall, without inquiring their duty of God daily.--E. G. White.

Re: God is wrapping it up! [Re: dedication] #188168
12/31/18 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: dedication
To say people have already been judged and sealed some years back, is to say probation is over.
It is not.
Just commenting on that statement, probation IS indeed over for some people. They are DEAD. And forever sealed, one way or the other.

Re: God is wrapping it up! [Re: kland] #188171
01/02/19 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: dedication
To say people have already been judged and sealed some years back, is to say probation is over.
It is not.
Just commenting on that statement, probation IS indeed over for some people. They are DEAD. And forever sealed, one way or the other.

Perhaps consider an alternative view that there does not exist a "probation," as neither this word nor concept is to be found in Scripture.


"Our vision is often more obstructed by what we think we know than by our lack of knowledge." K. Stendahl
Re: God is wrapping it up! [Re: kland] #188172
01/02/19 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: dedication
To say people have already been judged and sealed some years back, is to say probation is over.
It is not.
Just commenting on that statement, probation IS indeed over for some people. They are DEAD. And forever sealed, one way or the other.

Of course, a persons probationary time here on earth ends at death -- but that was not the subject under discussion.

The subject was addressing the idea that some people seem to think they have a message that the judgment of the living ended on a specific date some years back.




When I think about it -- in my lifetime there must have been maybe 100 failed predictions by people thinking they know the times and dates of the work of God.

The first one I remember was 1964 (you know 120 years since 1844, "as in the days of Noah")

Every time Halley’s Comet comes around, or the planets align, or the constellations form some interesting configuration with planets and the moon, or there’s an increase in solar flares, or the financial situation takes a dip, or someone claims to have found the ark of the covenant, or the pope makes some new pronouncement, or Russia flexes its muscles, or Israel moves into some new trouble or advancement, or the United States launches a war in the middle east somewhere, or Islamic forces utter threats, or there's a new ecumenical promotion, a new papal visit, or a series of eclipses take place, or some ancient calendar ends, == etc. etc. ==
someone, somewhere gets out their calculators and wrest some timeline out of its Biblical context and proclaims a new time for things to wrap up.
I don't think a year has gone by without some kind of "end of the world" date attached to it.

Now --
it's obvious that we are standing on the very edge of this world's history --
A lot of the above situations are noteworthy in sensing that we are standing on the edge of the toe nails of Daniel's metal man, and the rock is about to strike.
It is wrapping up!
BUT we know NOT the dates nor the year.

We need to stop getting worked up over useless dates. Every time we share some end-times prediction that involves a projected date, or an approximate time, we open the door to mockery and disbelief.

Just like the parable of the boy who kept crying "wolf"
soon nobody listened, and when the wolf actually came no one was ready for him.

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