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Re: The Book of Revelation -- 1st Quarter 2019 [Re: kland] #188601
02/27/19 06:27 AM
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Kland, if you read the quote in context you will see what EGW means by "less than 1 in 100" and what that small number is doing.

And yes, HC, the math is interesting!!!

While the 99 are simply engaging in common worldly enterprises, making a living, keeping themselves fed and comfortable, the 1 percent are out there giving Bible studies, sharing the gospel, going into unchurched places and raising churches, etc.

Actually it kind of fits what I understand the 144,000 to be --

As Jesus began the Christian church with a foundation of 12 men going out and planting the gospel truth in the known world until there was a great multitude of Christians,
So in the end, God will have His 12,000 times 12 going out and planting the gospel as it is in the three angels' messages until there is a great multitude on God's side praising Him in their white robes of Christ's righteousness.

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Re: The Book of Revelation -- 1st Quarter 2019 [Re: kland] #188603
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Originally Posted By: kland
Logic is interesting.
If less than 210,000 of 21,000,000 are not doing anything beyond engaging in common worldly enterprises, does that mean that the others are doing something beyond engaging in common worldly enterprises?


Let's hope so


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Re: The Book of Revelation -- 1st Quarter 2019 [Re: dedication] #188605
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Originally Posted By: dedication
Kland, if you read the quote in context you will see what EGW means by "less than 1 in 100" and what that small number is doing.

And yes, HC, the math is interesting!!!

While the 99 are simply engaging in common worldly enterprises, making a living, keeping themselves fed and comfortable, the 1 percent are out there giving Bible studies, sharing the gospel, going into unchurched places and raising churches, etc.

Actually it kind of fits what I understand the 144,000 to be --

As Jesus began the Christian church with a foundation of 12 men going out and planting the gospel truth in the known world until there was a great multitude of Christians,
So in the end, God will have His 12,000 times 12 going out and planting the gospel as it is in the three angels' messages until there is a great multitude on God's side praising Him in their white robes of Christ's righteousness.


Originally Posted By: EG White
Soon we heard the voice of God like many waters, which gave us the day and hour of Jesus' coming. The living saints, 144,000 in number, knew and understood the voice, while the wicked thought it was thunder and an earthquake. When God spoke the time, He poured upon us the Holy Ghost, and our faces began to light up and shine with the glory of God, as Moses' did when he came down from Mount Sinai. {EW 14.1}
The 144,000 were all sealed and perfectly united. On their foreheads was written, God, New Jerusalem, and a glorious star containing Jesus' new name. {EW 15.1}


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Re: The Book of Revelation -- 1st Quarter 2019 [Re: dedication] #188606
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Originally Posted By: dedication
Kland, if you read the quote in context you will see what EGW means by "less than 1 in 100" and what that small number is doing.
Am I not thinking correctly or neither of you two?

Originally Posted By: White
Not one in a hundred among us is doing anything beyond engaging in common, worldly enterprises. We are not half awake to the worth of the souls for whom Christ died.-- Testimonies, vol. 8, p. 148.

Originally Posted By: His Child
If less than 210,000 are not doing anything beyond engaging in common worldly enterprises,


Does not negation require the less/than greater/than to be changed?
as in:

If more than 210,000 are not doing anything beyond engaging in common worldly enterprises,

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Re: The Book of Revelation -- 1st Quarter 2019 [Re: dedication] #188623
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Of course the bottom line is not if the SDA Church will have enough members to fill the ranks of the 144K when less that 1 in 100 members are not as they should be.

The real question is not literal or figurative 144k.


Will you or I be faithful to be in the 144k?


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Re: The Book of Revelation -- 1st Quarter 2019 [Re: dedication] #188633
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The author of this quarter's SSL states that the editors made some massive changes to this week's lesson.

http://revelation-armageddon.com/2019/03...ript-on-rev-13/

IMHO some of the changes were an improvement, but both fall short of what we could know if we stayed true to the prophecy.


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Re: The Book of Revelation -- 1st Quarter 2019 [Re: dedication] #188652
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I've been complaining for several quarters that all the lessons sound the same no matter who the author is. That is, the lessons really are Goldstein's. Maybe Stefavnovic is seeing the same thing....

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Re: The Book of Revelation -- 1st Quarter 2019 [Re: dedication] #188677
03/10/19 02:50 PM
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Lesson 11

Memory Verse:
“ ‘Who shall not fear You, O Lord, and glorify Your name? For You alone are holy. For all nations shall come and worship before You, for Your judgments have been manifested’ ” (Revelation 15:4, NKJV).

Who is the "O Lord" that the "You alone are holy" referring to?


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: The Book of Revelation -- 1st Quarter 2019 [Re: dedication] #188697
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Daryl, you aren't making this into another thread about the trinity, are you? wink

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Re: The Book of Revelation -- 1st Quarter 2019 [Re: kland] #188743
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Originally Posted By: kland
Daryl, you aren't making this into another thread about the trinity, are you? wink


Revelation 16 is revealing the truth about the false trinity: Satan appearing as Pope John-Paul II, the beast (pope Francis I), and the false prophet (Benedict the retired).


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