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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: James Peterson] #190261
07/29/19 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by James Peterson
Originally Posted by Daryl
Commenting on last week's study: The Sabbath is a day of freedom in a similar manner that the Law, as in the Ten Commandments, is a law of liberty.

We are not going to be judged by the Ten Commandments, but by its moral opposite: the Law of Liberty, i.e. THE SCALES OF MERCY. To the extent that we forgive, we shall be forgiven, that we show compassion, it will be shown to us. It's called the Law of Liberty because the atonement provided by Christ has freed us from the condemnation we were under while we strove vainly to be perfect. We will not be judged by a standard of perfection but by something better, greater, something that promises hope and life anew to the extent that we do for others what we wish for ourselves.

As Paul cries out, "I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? I thank God -- through Jesus Christ our Lord!" Rom. 7:21-24

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Rom 5:20 Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more,
21 so that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?
2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: Daryl] #190262
07/29/19 01:44 PM
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Then you must be practically the Messiah returned and walking among us horrible, horrible sinners!

"All hail, kland, THE Perfect Specimen! All hail!"

Be careful in the wielding of your gravel for according to the same judgment you mete out, you will surely be judged. Matthew 7:2

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: Daryl] #190264
07/30/19 06:16 PM
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I don't think any one is claiming that they have arrived, but rather that by God's grace and the work of the Holy Spirit we may grow more and more into the person God designed us to be
And yes,the ten commandments is the law of righteousness -- to think differently is to miss the deeper, fuller meaning in God's law.

Under the general heading of selfishness comes every other sin.
God's commandments show a life of unselfness.

The first commandment states -- worship the Lord Thy God and Him only serve! Selfishness, on the other hand worships self.. Here is the whole foundation of all the rest.
Selfishness will always look at others as being a means or objects to use in some way to profit self. All the relationships of a selfish person, with everyone, be it in worship or in interacting with others will all be motivated by what is best, most comfortable, most pleasurable, most advantageous for SELF.

A person who makes God first, last and everything, puts self on the lower seat. They start to see others through the eyes of Christ, Who gave up heavenly glory and suffered terrible because He put fallen, rebellious mankind above His own comfort and pleasure, and gave His life to save them.

Your accumulated benevolent deeds will NOT save you any more than rigorous Sabbath keeping will save anyone.

Both can be done from a purely selfish heart for self acclaim or reward or show
OR
they are the fruit of a life dedicated to God, trusting in Him and surrendering our selfish hearts and minds to Him to melt those selfish hearts and minds and fill us with love to God supreme and others as themselves.

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1st commandment -- Place God on the throne of your life, worship Him, take self off the throne.
2nd commandment -- No idols. Self wants to put things, or people, or ambition ahead of God, but these end up also being self worship and block God from working in our lives.
3rd commandment -- Do you love Christ with all your heart? Taking His name (Christian) shows you are on His side. Living a life foreign to the ways of Christ, while taking His mane, is honoring self, and a reproach on Christ. Taking His name in vain.
4th commandment -- Love God -- you will spend the day as special time with Him.
5th commandment -- Love and honor your parents, and by extension the elderly. Do good for them, care for them, etc.
6th commandment -- Love others -- you will not harbor hate, bitterness, resentfulness against others, but have a forgiving spirit. Helping, not "killing.
7th commandment -- Love your spouse, be faithful, true, honest, loving. And yes, that requires forgiveness, understanding, and NOT seeking ones own pleasure outside the relationship. Marriage can be a powerful school to grow in unselfishness.
8th commandment -- Love others-- give to others, don't take their things away, respect their personal property and dignity. Stealing is selfishness. A person will not steal from someone they love, but give them whatever they can to meet their needs.
9th commandment -- love others -- speak truth in love, respect their reputation, speak words of encouragement, do not gossip or bear false reports of others.
10th commandment -- Love others -- this commandment is a foundational one against selfishness. -- coveting, envy, jealousy are all fruits of selfishness -- be happy for the success of others, rejoice with them, don't envy them, don't resent their good fortune, be content with your own lot, not selfishly wanting what others have.

If everyone, through the grace of God and the power of the Holy Spirit, lived by this law -- the world would be overflowing with love and happiness.

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: Daryl] #190265
07/30/19 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dedication
1st commandment -- Place God on the throne of your life, worship Him, take self off the throne.
Worship HIM or worship THEM? This is not a trivial question.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: Daryl] #190266
07/30/19 10:13 PM
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"In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." You were buried with Christ in baptism, and raised to newness of life. And the three great powers of heaven pledged themselves to co-operate with you in your efforts to live the new life in Christ. Then should we not praise him with every breath? {RH, June 15, 1905 par. 33}

"When they go down into the water, they pledge themselves in the presence of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost that they will henceforth be dead unto the world and its temptations, and that they will arise from the watery grave to walk in newness of life, even a life of obedience to God's requirements. Ms 80, 1903, p. 2. ("Whoso Offereth Praise Glorifieth God," August 1, 1903.)

"let us consecrate to Him all that we are, and all that we have, and then may we all unite to swell the songs,--
"Praise God, from whom all blessings flow;
Praise him, all creatures here below;
Praise him above, ye heavenly host;
Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost." {RH, January 4, 1881 par. 18}

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: Daryl] #190267
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AMOS

Originally Posted by lesson
Read Amos 3:9-11; Amos 4:1-2; Amos 5:10-15; and Amos 8:4-6. What sins is he warning against?
While Amos is not diplomatic in his language and his warnings are those of doom, his message is seasoned with entreaties to turn back to their God. This will include a renewal of their sense of justice and care for the poor among them: ?But let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream!? (Amos 5:24, NIV). The last few verses of Amos? prophecy point to a future restoration for God?s people (see Amos 9:11-15): ?In their hour of deepest apostasy and greatest need, God?s message to them was one of forgiveness and hope?. ? Ellen G. White, Prophets and Kings, p. 283.


Sins mentioned
Omission -- don't do what is right, Committing robbery and violence, oppress the poor, crush the needy, live to please self, good food, fine houses, and fields, gained their wealth by exerting excessive taxes and oppression of the poor..


Amos 3
1 Hear this word that the Lord has spoken against you, O people of Israel, against the whole family that I brought up out of the land of Egypt:
2 I will punish you for all your iniquities.
3 ?Do two walk together,unless they have agreed to meet?

5:4 For thus says the Lord to the house of Israel: ?Seek me and live;"
5:14 Seek good, and not evil,that you may live; and so the Lord, the God of hosts, will be with you,as you have said.
15 Hate evil, and love good,and establish justice in the gate;it may be that the Lord, the God of hosts,will be gracious to the remnant of Joseph.

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: Daryl] #190268
07/31/19 01:32 AM
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Acts 3:13-15 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his Son Jesus; whom you delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. (14) But you denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted to you; (15) And killed the Prince of life, whom God has raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

Who was the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?
Who glorified His Son, Jesus?

God is a Being of infinite love and compassion. {4T 370.1} Being - SINGULAR.
 
Christ the Word, the Only Begotten of God, was one with the eternal Father,--one in nature, in character, and in purpose,--the only being in all the universe that could enter into all the counsels and purposes of God. By Christ the Father wrought in the creation of all heavenly beings. "By Him were all things created, that are in heaven, . . . whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers" (Colossians 1:16); and to Christ, equally with the Father, all heaven gave allegiance. {GC 493.1}
 
God is The Father, His Son is Jesus Christ.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: Daryl] #190269
07/31/19 02:58 AM
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Is that part of the lesson for this week?

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: dedication] #190273
07/31/19 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dedication
Is that part of the lesson for this week?
ABSOLUTELY!!!! The 1st commandment is to worship GOD, that is The Father. This is the same with the 3AM, you need to know WHO you worship, the True God. Edit: next weeks lesson...

Last edited by APL; 07/31/19 12:50 PM.

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2019 [Re: kland] #190274
07/31/19 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kland
Originally Posted by James Peterson
Originally Posted by Daryl
Commenting on last week's study: The Sabbath is a day of freedom in a similar manner that the Law, as in the Ten Commandments, is a law of liberty.

We are not going to be judged by the Ten Commandments, but by its moral opposite: the Law of Liberty, i.e. THE SCALES OF MERCY. To the extent that we forgive, we shall be forgiven, that we show compassion, it will be shown to us. It's called the Law of Liberty because the atonement provided by Christ has freed us from the condemnation we were under while we strove vainly to be perfect. We will not be judged by a standard of perfection but by something better, greater, something that promises hope and life anew to the extent that we do for others what we wish for ourselves.

As Paul cries out, "I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? I thank God -- through Jesus Christ our Lord!" Rom. 7:21-24

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Rom 5:20 Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more,
21 so that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?
2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?



If no one is perfect, then who can make it? Salvation therefore depends on GRACE, and if on grace then on the scales of mercy. "So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty. For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment." James 2:12-13

We have been set free from the condemnation of the Ten Commandments, being offered, as it were, a new lease on life by the Atonement of Christ on Calvary. We have been offered something far greater in the Law of Liberty, as Jesus advised us about how to pray saying: "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive others who trespass against us ... For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." Mat. 6:5-15

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