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Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: Green Cochoa] #191787
02/10/20 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ellen white
The diet reform should be progressive. As disease in animals increases, the use of milk and eggs will become more and more unsafe. An effort should be made to supply their place with other things that are healthful and inexpensive. The people everywhere should be taught how to cook without milk and eggs, so far as possible, and yet have their food wholesome and palatable. {CCh 225.4}
does green follow the prophet?

Last edited by APL; 02/10/20 02:02 PM.

Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: Green Cochoa] #191788
02/10/20 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Cochoa
We are to teach people both to give up the flesh foods and to cook hygienically.

Green: We are to teach people both to give up the flesh foods and to cook hygienically
and expect them to give them up.

White:
Concerning flesh meat, we should educate the people to let it alone. Its use is contrary to the best development of the physical, mental, and moral powers. And we should bear a clear testimony against the use of tea and coffee. It is also well to discard rich desserts. Milk, eggs, and butter should not be classed with flesh meat. In some cases the use of eggs is beneficial. The time has not come to say that the use of milk and eggs should be wholly discarded. There are poor families whose diet consists largely of bread and milk. They have little fruit and cannot afford to purchase the nut foods. In teaching health reform, as in all other gospel work, we are to meet the people where they are. Until we can teach them how to prepare health-reform foods that are palatable, nourishing, and yet inexpensive, we are not at liberty to present the most advanced propositions regarding health-reform diet. {CH 477.6}

Green: Except for that!
We are to teach, but not expect. "Until", means never to happen.


What does one call it when one follows advice they agree with, but discards advice they don't wish to follow?

Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: Green Cochoa] #191789
02/10/20 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Cochoa
There is no evidence that adequate B12 will be supplied from either not brushing one's teeth or eating unwashed vegetables.
And there is no evidence that adequate B12 will be supplied by eating one egg.

Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: Green Cochoa] #191792
02/11/20 12:43 AM
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Here is an interesting article about vitamin B12 and how it is produced..only by bacteria.

https://www.b12-vitamin.com/gut-bacteria/

Aside from the B12 aspects of the article, there is a nice explanation of the role our gut bacteria (our microbiome) contribute to our physical as well as mental health.

One paragraph in the article gives evidence to the statements Mrs White said 150 years ago about the close communication between the digestive system and the brain.

From the article:
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Today, the microbiome is therefore often understood as another vital and highly specialised organ in the human body. What is more, it has also been shown that there is constant communication between the intestinal bacteria and the brain and central nervous system ? very similar to that of an ordinary organ


From the SOP:
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The stomach has a controlling power upon the health of the entire body.... The brain nerves are in strong sympathy with the stomach.? The Health Reformer, October 1, 1871. { HL 162.4 }
The healthful use of the unstimulating articles of food will not excite the nerves by irritating the stomach and debilitating brain nerve power. { 19MR 344.2 }



Last edited by jackson; 02/11/20 12:49 AM.

There is no greater deception than for man to suppose that in any difficulty he can find a better guide than God, a wiser counselor in any emergency, a stronger defense under any circumstance.... Ellen White
Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: APL] #191804
02/12/20 03:07 AM
02/12/20 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by APL
Originally Posted by ellen white
The diet reform should be progressive. As disease in animals increases, the use of milk and eggs will become more and more unsafe. An effort should be made to supply their place with other things that are healthful and inexpensive. The people everywhere should be taught how to cook without milk and eggs, so far as possible, and yet have their food wholesome and palatable. {CCh 225.4}
does green follow the prophet?
the answer is NO! on many things!


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Brain-damaged from Veganism, why vegans have cognitive impairment [Re: kland] #191855
02/17/20 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kland
Originally Posted by Green Cochoa
We are to teach people both to give up the flesh foods and to cook hygienically.

Green: We are to teach people both to give up the flesh foods and to cook hygienically
and expect them to give them up.

White:
Concerning flesh meat, we should educate the people to let it alone. Its use is contrary to the best development of the physical, mental, and moral powers. And we should bear a clear testimony against the use of tea and coffee. It is also well to discard rich desserts. Milk, eggs, and butter should not be classed with flesh meat. In some cases the use of eggs is beneficial. The time has not come to say that the use of milk and eggs should be wholly discarded. There are poor families whose diet consists largely of bread and milk. They have little fruit and cannot afford to purchase the nut foods. In teaching health reform, as in all other gospel work, we are to meet the people where they are. Until we can teach them how to prepare health-reform foods that are palatable, nourishing, and yet inexpensive, we are not at liberty to present the most advanced propositions regarding health-reform diet. {CH 477.6}

Green: Except for that!
We are to teach, but not expect. "Until", means never to happen.


What does one call it when one follows advice they agree with, but discards advice they don't wish to follow?


When you see people eating what is going to hurt them, it's just common courtesy and compassion to want to help with what helps them or can heal.

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