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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature.... [Re: Rick H] #191873
02/20/20 12:04 PM
02/20/20 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick H
Originally Posted by His child
Originally Posted by Rick H
Well, I just found yesterday that it has spread into the Spanish Adventist church, nearby, and much like ours the first elder and others were shown the exit door. And they had just finished buying the building for the church and the property not long ago. I will update once I know more..


There is more ahead: The RCC male priesthood model is being embraced by the GC. And our stand on abortion that was settled over 50 years ago is being tweaked to align more closely with the RCC position. Positions that have withstood time are being chipped away by our leaders (oh no say it ain't so) and apostacy of a most startling nature is already here.

That is a bit of stretch as it was a change that was turned down, not a shift.


So you think that these issues have been laid to rest?
Anti-WO is RCC theology embraced by the GC and promoted as a panacea for Adventism.
The abortion issue as it has been settled for decades in Adventism is not aligning with the RCC view and changes are being urged upon us.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature.... [Re: His child] #191882
02/21/20 10:55 PM
02/21/20 10:55 PM
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His child,

Are you, therefore, Pro-WO???


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature.... [Re: Daryl] #191884
02/22/20 06:35 AM
02/22/20 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
His child,

Are you, therefore, Pro-WO???


Since the Bible is proWO, I have to go with the Bible.
So Daryl are you against the proWO biblical teaching?


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature.... [Re: Daryl] #191887
02/22/20 09:01 AM
02/22/20 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
His child,

Are you, therefore, Pro-WO???


Originally Posted by Ellen White
The Lord move upon the churches! May the voice from the living oracles of God, the startling movings of providence, speak in clear language to the church, "separate unto me Paul and Barnabas." Holy and devout men are wanted now to cultivate their mental and physical powers and their piety to the uttermost, and to be ordained to go forth as medical missionaries, both men and women. Every effort should be made to send forth intelligent workers. The same grace that came from Jesus Christ to Paul and Apollos, that distinguished them for spiritual excellencies can be reproduced and brought into working order in many devoted missionaries. Let not a large number fold their hands and say O yes, let such and such an one go to untried fields, while themselves put forth no interested devoted self-denying labor and expect their work that the Lord has committed to them to be done by proxy. {6MR 226.3}


Originally Posted by Ellen White
The Lord gave me great light on health reform. In connection with my husband, I was to be a medical missionary worker. I was to set an example to the church by taking the sick to my home and caring for them. This I have done, giving the women and children vigorous treatment. {CME 9.5}


Originally Posted by Ellen White
"In the city of Portland the Lord ordained me as His messenger, and here my first labors were given to the cause of present truth."--RH, May 18, 1911.{DG 252.5}


The Lord ordained EGW as His messenger! Who is the Lord's messenger?

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For the priest's lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he [is] the messenger of the LORD of hosts. Malachi 2:7


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Jesus Christ... washed us from our sins in His own blood, and hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to Him [be] glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. Revelation 1:5-6


God has already made the redeemed kings and priests unto God. Would you preach that women will not be saved? Thus, this does not apply to them?

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Thus, have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. Matthew 15:6


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For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. Hebrews 7:12


Those who reject Christ's making His people kings and priests, reject the change in the law.

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For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:27-28


Originally Posted by Ellen White
It is the accompaniment of the Holy Spirit of God that prepares workers, both men and women, to become pastors to the flock of God. {CEv 16.1}


The evidence is clear that while man is forbidding God to call men and women to ministry and man is ignoring what God has put in His word and what God has done to move the work forward, man is bringing the RCC teaching about the male priesthood into the SDA Church.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature.... [Re: Rick H] #191895
02/22/20 10:17 PM
02/22/20 10:17 PM
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All I wanted to know is whether you were Pro-WO.

A simple yes or no is all I wanted.

As we have a forum regarding WO, I do not want any further posts about this in this thread.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature.... [Re: Rick H] #191916
02/25/20 03:05 AM
02/25/20 03:05 AM
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Daryl, can you clarify: do you believe WO is "apostasy of a most startling nature"?


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature.... [Re: Rick H] #191928
02/26/20 04:10 PM
02/26/20 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ProdigalOne
Daryl, can you clarify: do you believe WO is "apostasy of a most startling nature"?

From reading the first several posts of this thread it seems that Spiritual Formation was it.

As far as WO goes, I believe that it is presently a church issue.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

http://www.christians-discuss.com/forum/index.php
Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature.... [Re: Daryl] #192009
03/09/20 09:31 AM
03/09/20 09:31 AM
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Here is something that speaks to what is happening...

http://www.sdadefend.com/WolvesinFleeces/Organized%20Apostacy.htm

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