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Re: The Simple Cure for Coronavirus: COVID-19 [Re: Green Cochoa] #192260
04/09/20 10:43 AM
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A letter to the president from a senate candidate about using Vitamin A, C, & D:

https://shiva4senate.com/immune-and-economic-health-for-america-coronavirus/

Re: The Simple Cure for Coronavirus: COVID-19 [Re: kland] #192263
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Originally Posted by kland
A letter to the president from a senate candidate about using Vitamin A, C, & D:

https://shiva4senate.com/immune-and-economic-health-for-america-coronavirus/


Good find. One might nearly wonder if he had read my posts here. Ha!

I've known something of the effectiveness of vitamin C for decades already. It's good to see such ideas getting a little more press.

Dr. F., though, is probably a J..... who has an agenda beyond the claims he puts forward.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: The Simple Cure for Coronavirus: COVID-19 [Re: Daryl] #192264
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Originally Posted by Daryl
Did anybody hear about NAC being used with Vitamin C being very good against the coronavirus???


I think this might be related to what you were looking for...

"Vitamin C and N acetylcysteine

N-Acetylcysteine (NAC) is a precursor of reduced glutathione that has the ability to quench hydroperoxides. Vitamin C (Vit C) is an effective scavenger of hydroxyl radicals, and vitamin E (Vit E) is a lipid radical chain breaker that scavenges oxygen radicals and alkyl radicals (33)."... https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/132/8/2151/4687658

Anything that interferes with the virus, whether blocking, or inhibiting it especially in the cells, seems to be helping delay its spread so the body immune system reacts and fights the virus.

Last edited by Rick H; 04/10/20 11:27 AM.
Re: The Simple Cure for Coronavirus: COVID-19 [Re: Green Cochoa] #192284
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This is an interesting interview with Dr. Timothy Perenich

1918 vs 2020 pandemic


We, as a church were given sound information for health. but, we as a church, have largely turned away from the very answers that bring cures and health.

We need to get back to the blue print, and learn to effectively do natural remedies -- like using sunlight, freshair and water treatments, along with nutritious foods needed to maintain a good immune system.

Re: The Simple Cure for Coronavirus: COVID-19 [Re: Green Cochoa] #192294
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Here is a revealing interview with MIT PhD, Dr Shiva Ayyadurai

https://youtu.be/NjjybyJ59Lw


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Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

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Re: The Simple Cure for Coronavirus: COVID-19 [Re: Green Cochoa] #192306
04/18/20 08:16 PM
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For the record, as the internet information may "evolve," here's a little more evidence of China's use of vitamin C to fight the "novel coronavirus."
CHINESE NEWSGoogle Translate's English Version
2月1日上午,50吨维生素C原料药从帝斯曼江山制药(江苏)有限公司紧急发往湖北华中药业股份有限公司,这批维生素C原料药将被制成维生素C注射液,用于疫情防控与救治。2月3日,帝斯曼(中国)有限公司向中国红十字基金会捐赠人民币100万元,用于支援湖北武汉疫情防控工作,以及疫情地区一线医护人员人道救助专项使用,为驰援疫情防控尽一份力,同舟共济渡过难关。此外,帝斯曼还将为奋战在一线抗击疫情的医护人员分批捐赠10万瓶维生素C产品。第一品维生素C咀嚼片将捐赠予武汉协和医院和荆州当地医院,帮助医护人员建立强有力的免疫系统,为其工作和健康提供支持。
  华中药业系中国兵器装备集团子公司,在本次疫情中,其被国药控股湖北有限公司(武汉市新型肺炎防控指挥部疫情防控医疗物资采购商)列为防控药品医疗物资保障单位。华中药业生产的维生素C注射液系这次新型冠状病毒感染的肺炎疫情防控与救治的必需药品。此前,华中药业紧急向帝斯曼江山采购维生素C原料药,并开具货物运输特别通行证。
  帝斯曼江山于1月22日启动防疫应急工作,成立了以公司管理层为主要成员的疫情应急响应领导小组。对口罩、测温枪、洗手液、消毒剂等应急用品进行采购、分发和储备,发放医用及N95口罩8000多副。承包商及运输商进行登记、核实身份、体温检测、佩戴防护口罩方可进入厂区;员工必须在门卫、班组进行两次测温,确认没有异常才能上岗作业。通过车间、班组微信群,公司对全员健康状况进行及时跟踪,同时明确规定:凡与疫区人员有直接或间接接触的员工,无论这些疫区人员的健康状况如何,必须立即进行居家隔离、安排专人跟踪进展。并每天组织对公司公共区域进行定时消毒、送餐到岗,确保应急维生素C原料药生产正常、按时供货。
  帝斯曼中国总裁,蒋惟明博士提到:? 帝斯曼密切关注疫情发展,我们深知每一次病例数字跳动的背后都是鲜活的个人和家庭。随着防疫工作进入攻坚时刻,帝斯曼将竭尽所能,凭借专业、及时的服务以全球生产和供应链网络为疫情防控做出空闲,与中国一同渡过难关!?
On the morning of February 1, 50 tons of vitamin C APIs were urgently sent from DSM Jiangshan Pharmaceutical (Jiangsu) Co., Ltd. to Hubei Huazhong Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd. This batch of vitamin C APIs will be made into vitamin C injections. In the prevention and treatment of epidemic situation. On February 3, DSM (China) Co., Ltd. donated RMB 1 million to the China Red Cross Foundation to support the epidemic prevention and control work in Wuhan, Hubei, as well as the special use of humanitarian aid for front-line medical staff in the epidemic area, for the purpose of epidemic prevention Take control and do your best to get through the difficulties together. In addition, DSM will donate 100,000 bottles of vitamin C products in batches to medical staff who fight against the epidemic. The first product of Vitamin C chewable tablets will be donated to Wuhan Union Hospital and Jingzhou local hospital to help medical staff build a strong immune system and provide support for their work and health.
Huazhong Pharmaceutical is a subsidiary of China Ordnance Equipment Group. In this epidemic, it was listed by Sinopharm Hubei Co., Ltd. (purchasing medical material purchaser for epidemic prevention and control of Wuhan New Pneumonia Prevention and Control Headquarters) as a unit for the prevention and control of medical materials. . Vitamin C injection produced by Huazhong Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd. is an essential drug for the prevention, control and treatment of pneumonia outbreaks caused by the new coronavirus. Prior to this, Huazhong Pharmaceutical had urgently purchased vitamin C raw materials from DSM and issued a special transportation permit.
DSM Jiangshan started the epidemic prevention and emergency work on January 22, and established an epidemic emergency response leading group with the company's management as the main member. Procurement, distribution and storage of emergency supplies such as masks, temperature measuring guns, hand sanitizers and disinfectants, and distribution of more than 8,000 medical and N95 masks. Contractors and transporters must register, verify their identities, perform temperature tests, and wear protective masks before entering the factory area; employees must conduct temperature measurements twice with guards and teams to confirm that there are no abnormalities before they can start work. Through the workshop and team WeChat group, the company keeps track of the health status of all employees in a timely manner, and clearly stipulates that all employees who have direct or indirect contact with personnel in the epidemic area, regardless of the health status of those in the epidemic area, must immediately carry out home isolation, Arrange someone to track progress. And organize daily disinfection of the company's public areas, deliver meals to the post, to ensure that emergency vitamin C raw material production is normal and delivered on time.
Dr. Jiang Weiming, President of DSM China, said: "DSM pays close attention to the development of the epidemic. We know that behind every number of cases, there are lively individuals and families. . . .
Found online here: http://www.caffci.org/xh_common.php?code=81&lan=2&page=1&id=5496

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: The Simple Cure for Coronavirus: COVID-19 [Re: Green Cochoa] #192363
05/02/20 12:49 AM
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Here are two interesting articles on Vitamin C

What is the optimum dosage? Any cautions?

https://nutritionfacts.org/video/what-is-the-optimal-vitamin-c-intake/Optimum Vitamin C dosage

Benefits and cautions in Vit C supplements


There is no greater deception than for man to suppose that in any difficulty he can find a better guide than God, a wiser counselor in any emergency, a stronger defense under any circumstance.... Ellen White
Re: The Simple Cure for Coronavirus: COVID-19 [Re: Green Cochoa] #192365
05/02/20 10:01 AM
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jackson,

That guy is ignoring some additional factors and is even off on some of his mathematical logic. For example, just because the body will fully absorb 200 mg. of vitamin C taken per day does not make that the ultimate level for dosage. The body has feedback mechanisms in place to help put everything in balance, and it is a little bit, perhaps, like charging a capacitor: if you have a completely empty capacitor, it will take the full amperage of the electrical current charging it. Once it is half full, it will draw much less amperage--does this mean that the capacitor is "too full" already? Hardly. It simply takes it longer to top up the last half than it did the first half. The same principle applies to a battery. If you charge your battery without a modern "smart" charger, from having been completely dead, it will charge quickly at first--as it hungrily soaks up the amperage. As it fills, it is less hungry. Should you, then, unplug the charger as soon as you notice that it is not taking so much current? Of course not.

When the vitamin C dosage was increased to around 1300 mg. per day, according to the video, the body accepted 46% of it. That means that the body accepted over 500 mg., which puts 200 mg. as only 40% of what the body felt it could use when given more. The body is complicated. The math is more nuanced than the video would suggest. The gentleman appears not to have thought things through carefully.

Vitamin C has other reasons, too, why it may be especially helpful, given in high dosages, for fighting cancer, viruses, or other diseases. The acidity of the vitamin changes the chemistry of the blood, which has a similar effect on the immune response and/or the viability of the disease as spiking a fever might have. This effect has little to do with the vitamin C itself, and more to do with the oxidative and pH factors of the blood. A doctor once explained this to me, but I have forgotten the details, so there may be a clearer description of this you might find.

I still think that the fact a goat regularly makes 13,000 mg. of vitamin C every day (in its liver), which can go up to 27,000 if the goat is a little stressed, and case reports have indicated as much as 100,000 mg. in a single day for an extra-stressed goat, tells us that vitamin C is not nearly so much to be feared, even in so-called mega-doses, as many seem to think. Unfortunately, humans don't make vitamin C like many (most?/all?--I don't know) other mammals do.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: The Simple Cure for Coronavirus: COVID-19 [Re: Green Cochoa] #192366
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Mark 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
 
Luke 10:19 Behold, I give to you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Acts 28:5-6 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm. (6) However, they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.


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Re: The Simple Cure for Coronavirus: COVID-19 [Re: Green Cochoa] #192367
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APL,
Do you think Paul would have been spared if he had been bitten while presumpuously playing with the snake?


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Many have expected that God would keep them from sickness merely because they have asked Him to do so. But God did not regard their prayers, because their faith was not made perfect by works. God will not work a miracle to keep those from sickness who have no care for themselves, but are continually violating the laws of health and make no efforts to prevent disease. When we do all we can on our part to have health, then may we expect that the blessed results will follow, and we can ask God in faith to bless our efforts for the preservation of health. He will then answer our prayer, if His name can be glorified thereby. But let all understand that they have a work to do. God will not work in a miraculous manner to preserve the health of persons who are taking a sure course to make themselves sick, by their careless inattention to the laws of health.
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