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Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! #192205
04/04/20 12:48 AM
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"Panama announces gender-based virus curfew
The government in Panama has decreed men and women can only leave their homes on alternate days in a bid to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

Friederike Heine and Andrea Sosa Cabrios
Deutsche Presse AgenturAPRIL 2, 20205:18AM
Men and women in Panama will only be allowed to leave their homes on alternate days, according to a new anti-coronavirus measure imposed by the government.
The decision allows women to leave the house on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays and men to do so on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays.
The new measure, under which both men and women must stay indoors on Sundays, "seeks to reduce circulation by half," the Health Ministry said."

https://www.news.com.au/world/break...s-story/32eec6d37050a3f69a1a6afef4333b0a


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: ProdigalOne] #192206
04/04/20 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ProdigalOne
"Panama announces gender-based virus curfew
The government in Panama has decreed men and women can only leave their homes on alternate days in a bid to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

Friederike Heine and Andrea Sosa Cabrios
Deutsche Presse AgenturAPRIL 2, 20205:18AM
Men and women in Panama will only be allowed to leave their homes on alternate days, according to a new anti-coronavirus measure imposed by the government.
The decision allows women to leave the house on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays and men to do so on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays.
The new measure, under which both men and women must stay indoors on Sundays, "seeks to reduce circulation by half," the Health Ministry said."

https://www.news.com.au/world/break...s-story/32eec6d37050a3f69a1a6afef4333b0a


That is what is meant that they receive it in the hand with no religious belief (they receive the mark not knowing), while those who receive it in the forehead is a religious belief.

Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: Rick H] #192209
04/04/20 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick H
Originally Posted by ProdigalOne
"Panama announces gender-based virus curfew
The government in Panama has decreed men and women can only leave their homes on alternate days in a bid to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

Friederike Heine and Andrea Sosa Cabrios
Deutsche Presse AgenturAPRIL 2, 20205:18AM
Men and women in Panama will only be allowed to leave their homes on alternate days, according to a new anti-coronavirus measure imposed by the government.
The decision allows women to leave the house on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays and men to do so on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays.
The new measure, under which both men and women must stay indoors on Sundays, "seeks to reduce circulation by half," the Health Ministry said."

https://www.news.com.au/world/break...s-story/32eec6d37050a3f69a1a6afef4333b0a


That is what is meant that they receive it in the hand with no religious belief (they receive the mark not knowing), while those who receive it in the forehead is a religious belief.


Exactly! Global events are devolving at a dizzying pace.


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: Rick H] #192235
04/06/20 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick H

That is what is meant that they receive it in the hand with no religious belief (they receive the mark not knowing), while those who receive it in the forehead is a religious belief.

I don't see how on earth this could be considered "mark of the beast" like this. That is something that the Bible is pretty clear about what has to take place first and this law in Panama comes nowhere close to it. While "Sunday" will, at one point, be the mark, it is not so now. No one can receive the mark by having it "forced" upon them A person has to choose it. Or a person can alternatively choose the seal of God. The reason the Bible says people "RECEIVE" the mark is to tell us this. When you "receive" something, its not forced upon you. You have to take it knowingly and willingly. Its not "breaking God's law" to obey civil authorities when they ask us to do something like this on Sundays. The reason would probably be that since, in that country, most couples would be going to church every Sunday; then the danger of spreading any diseases making the rounds would be that much greater. Its a simply practical law, nothing to do yet, with "mark of the beast."


"The worst foes of my spiritual life have never been hostile circumstance."

"There is always a little bit of light" (Micah 7:8)
https://www.lightintheclouds.net/word

Sincerely, IN Christ; and THROUGH The Spirit


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Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: ProdigalOne] #192237
04/07/20 01:04 AM
04/07/20 01:04 AM
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The "Mark" will be enforced.

"When Sunday observance shall be enforced by law, and the world shall be enlightened concerning the obligation of the true Sabbath, then whoever shall transgress the command of God, to obey a precept which has no higher authority than that of Rome, will thereby honor popery above God." GC 449

Rev. 3:16 And he will cause all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that has the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

We may not be wise to wait for "something" to happen first --


A little closer to home -- at least for Canadians.

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Quebec Premier Francois Legault on Monday [March 30] ordered most of the stores still allowed to operate to close on Sundays....Legault said he didn?t think closing big grocery stores for one day a week would put a strain on them ,,,It will be an opportunity for our workers to get some rest,? Legault said. The only stores that can remain open seven days a week are convenience stores, pharmacies, gas stations and restaurant take-out counters.

Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: dedication] #192258
04/09/20 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dedication
The "Mark" will be enforced.

"When Sunday observance shall be enforced by law, and the world shall be enlightened concerning the obligation of the true Sabbath, then whoever shall transgress the command of God, to obey a precept which has no higher authority than that of Rome, will thereby honor popery above God." GC 449

Rev. 3:16 And he will cause all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that has the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

We may not be wise to wait for "something" to happen first --


A little closer to home -- at least for Canadians.

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Quebec Premier Francois Legault on Monday [March 30] ordered most of the stores still allowed to operate to close on Sundays....Legault said he didn?t think closing big grocery stores for one day a week would put a strain on them ,,,It will be an opportunity for our workers to get some rest,? Legault said. The only stores that can remain open seven days a week are convenience stores, pharmacies, gas stations and restaurant take-out counters.




The Sunday movement is being rapidly reinforced by the passage of laws. The lamb like beast is beginning to speak like a dragon and his voice is being echoed around the world! God?s people, hold on to your Lord!


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: dedication] #192279
04/12/20 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dedication
The "Mark" will be enforced.

"When Sunday observance shall be enforced by law, and the world shall be enlightened concerning the obligation of the true Sabbath,"

This has not happened anywhere yet.

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A little closer to home -- at least for Canadians.

[quote]Quebec Premier Francois Legault on Monday [March 30] ordered most of the stores still allowed to operate to close on Sundays....Legault said he didn?t think closing big grocery stores for one day a week would put a strain on them ,,,It will be an opportunity for our workers to get some rest,? Legault said. The only stores that can remain open seven days a week are convenience stores, pharmacies, gas stations and restaurant take-out counters.


This is not really what happened, it is only part of the story:

DIVISION II
HOURS AND DAYS OF ADMISSION
2. Subject to sections 3 to 14.1, the public may be admitted to a commercial establishment only between the hours of
(1) 8:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. on Saturdays and Sundays, and 8:00 a.m. and 9:00 p.m. on the other days of the week;
(2) 8:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. on 24 and 31 December;
(3) 1:00 p.m. and 5:00 p.m. on 26 December where it falls on a Saturday or a Sunday, and 1:00 p.m. and 9:00 p.m. where it falls on another day of the week.
SOURCE It would appear that this legislation in Quebec is about BOTH Saturday and Sunday; and that its not really "Sunday law" fodder.

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Jacob's company, unarmed and defenseless, seemed about to fall helpless victims of violence and slaughter. And to the burden of anxiety and fear was added the crushing weight of self-reproach, for it was his own sin that had brought this danger. His only hope was in the mercy of God; his only defense must be prayer. Yet he leaves nothing undone on his own part to atone for the wrong to his brother and to avert the threatened danger. So should the followers of Christ, as they approach the time of trouble, make every exertion to place themselves in a proper light before the people, to disarm prejudice, and to avert the danger which threatens liberty of conscience. {GC 616.2}

The thing to keep in mind is that prophecy, when speaking to the looming spectre of "Sunday Laws" actually refers to decrees by civil authorities to force people to physically observe the first day of the week:

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"Wonderful events are soon to open before the world. The end of all things is at hand. The time of trouble is about to come upon the people of God. Then it is that the decree will go forth forbidding those who keep the Sabbath of the Lord to buy or sell, and threatening them with punishment, and even death, if they do not observe the first day of the week as the Sabbathh. {HP 344.3}

So this is not about the more petty laws, which have been on the books for many years, sometimes called Sunday Blue Laws. This is/will be about much more than "Sunday closing laws." Further, we are warned about making up a time of trouble prematurely:

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The Lord does not move upon His workers to make them take a course which will bring on the time of trouble before the time. Let them not build up a wall of separation between themselves and the world, by advancing their own ideas and notions. There is now altogether too much of this throughout our borders. The message of warning has not reached large numbers of the world in the very cities that are right at hand, and to number Israel is not to work after God's order. {TM 202.1}


It would be far more fruitful for us who are supposed to be God's people, to talk more about Jesus than we do the mark of the beast.

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"Behold The Lamb of God which takes away the sin...." (John 1:29)


"The worst foes of my spiritual life have never been hostile circumstance."

"There is always a little bit of light" (Micah 7:8)
https://www.lightintheclouds.net/word

Sincerely, IN Christ; and THROUGH The Spirit


- The Wanderer
Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: ProdigalOne] #192281
04/14/20 02:35 AM
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Should we to be saying "it's not happening" right up until the final law is passed?
Or is this a very loud wake up call that we are standing on the edge -- on the very brink?
(True, the world hasn't plunged into the last crises yet, but it is teetering on the very edge of doing so, while huge forces are working to push it over) Pray we will have a little longer -- but without Divine intervention the world will slide over the edge.
Can't you see how things are shaping up in amazing leaps?




Are you saying the following report was false???
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A little closer to home -- at least for Canadians.

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Quebec Premier Francois Legault on Monday [March 30] ordered most of the stores still allowed to operate to close on Sundays....Legault said he didn;t think closing big grocery stores for one day a week would put a strain on them ,,,It will be an opportunity for our workers to get some rest,? Legault said. The only stores that can remain open seven days a week are convenience stores, pharmacies, gas stations and restaurant take-out counters.

In Quebec (and other provinces) a lot of stores were closed totally due to the pandemic, but March 30, the Primier of Quebec announced those stores that were allowed to remain open could NOT be open on Sundays anymore? Except for Pharmacies, and a couple others, all stores, including grocery stores must close on Sundays.

In your rebuttal you quoted a much earlier legislation dealing with normal store hours -- as it stood February 1, 2020.

The above quotes from Quebec's premier, that stores must close SUNDAYS, took place March 31, 2020.
He said they must close for all of April -- but let's see if the restriction is lifted after April.

Things are changing RAPIDLY as more and more "laws" are passed.




Back in the late 1880's the Adventist church took a far different stand against Sunday closure laws.
They didn't just sit back and say "Oh, well, blue laws have always existed, so what's the big deal", no, they opposed the closure laws!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXWxp3USJwc

Remember as well -- the blue laws were there BEFORE the constitution. Do a little research on how much "religious liberty" some of those early colonies had when the blue laws were in full force. Slowly those blue laws, even though they didn't disappear, began to lose their power after the American revolution-- but now people are suggesting they should be brought back into force.






Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: The Wanderer] #192282
04/14/20 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by The Wanderer


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The Lord does not move upon His workers to make them take a course which will bring on the time of trouble before the time. Let them not build up a wall of separation between themselves and the world, by advancing their own ideas and notions. There is now altogether too much of this throughout our borders. The message of warning has not reached large numbers of the world in the very cities that are right at hand, and to number Israel is not to work after God's order. {TM 202.1}


It would be far more fruitful for us who are supposed to be God's people, to talk more about Jesus than we do the mark of the beast.

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"Behold The Lamb of God which takes away the sin...." (John 1:29)



It is obvious, we are in the time when those in other churches are to be called out. Is it not the "message of warning" that must be delivered, now? People in other churches have little need to be told to "Behold The Lamb of God". They need to hear what they have not heard before, the three angels messages, especially the third and final one!

"And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."Revelation 14:9-12


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: ProdigalOne] #192304
04/18/20 05:01 PM
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Disasters being seen as a sign to return to the faith (Catholic) in Europe! Does this sound familiar?
https://youtu.be/QfupLAI_DCo


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
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