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Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick [Re: kland] #192631
06/22/20 01:20 PM
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A quarantine is a quarantine no matter what the reason is for the quarantine.


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Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick [Re: Green Cochoa] #192632
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As far as the number of days of the quarantine, that is also irrelevant.

Our churches here have been shut down for 90 days and are now able to re-open.


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Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick [Re: Daryl] #192635
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Originally Posted by Daryl
A quarantine is a quarantine no matter what the reason is for the quarantine.

What would be the reason for "quarantining" healthy people?

Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick [Re: Daryl] #192636
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Originally Posted by Daryl
As far as the number of days of the quarantine, that is also irrelevant.

Our churches here have been shut down for 90 days and are now able to re-open.
Except in the Bible, the women knew how long at the beginning. We did not and do not know.

Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick [Re: Green Cochoa] #192637
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I was going to quote the definition,
-- 1. A sanitary measure to prevent the spread of a contagious plague by isolating those believed or feared to be infected.

But now I see, either I didn't know about, or they have added, another definition,
-- 4. a state of enforced isolation

But, either way, not like in the Bible. One lets the people know ahead of time, and only those deemed unclean. The other looks like for enforcing the idea of subjection, being under their whim.

Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick [Re: Green Cochoa] #192639
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Women staying at home after childbirth was not a quarantine, because their family members still came and went. A quarantine means cutting off any such transmissible contact. For the women, it was just a necessary rest and recovery period, and it may have something to do with the fact that the baby's immune system is not yet well-developed, and therefore should not be handled by all and sundry, subjected to their fondling, their kisses, etc. It might also have something to do with the fact that the baby is still feeling very insecure, and this "mommy time" is necessary for its emotional well-being.

It might also be simply a symbolic measure intended to have prophetic significance for us.

Consider: In prophecy, a woman is a church. In prophecy, the man-child represents Jesus. In prophecy, a day equals a year. Put that all together, now. Jesus is born; 33 days = 33 years --> leading to the end of His stay on earth.

Originally Posted by Ellen White
Christ had sojourned in the world for thirty-three years; He had endured its scorn, insult, and mockery; He had been rejected and crucified. Now, when about to ascend to His throne of glory,--as He reviews the ingratitude of the people He came to save,--will He not withdraw from them His sympathy and love? Will not His affections be centered upon that realm where He is appreciated, and where sinless angels wait to do His bidding? No; His promise to those loved ones whom He leaves on earth is, "I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world." Matthew 28:20. {DA 830.2}


Furthermore, consider in evidence the fact that this ceremonial observance ended at the cross. If it were truly necessary for some biological reason, that would seem rather illogical.

That "quarantine" doesn't appear so much like a quarantine after taking this closer look, does it?

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Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick [Re: Green Cochoa] #192640
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Originally Posted by Green Cochoa
Women staying at home after childbirth was not a quarantine,
You're right. But it was a "quarantine" from the sanctuary. But nothing related to this year's flu.

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It might also be simply a symbolic measure intended to have prophetic significance for us.
I'd go with that, but not with what you concluded about it.

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Furthermore, consider in evidence the fact that this ceremonial observance ended at the cross. If it were truly necessary for some biological reason, that would seem rather illogical.
Yep. Seems more like conveying the idea the sanctuary is holy.

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That "quarantine" doesn't appear so much like a quarantine after taking this closer look, does it?
Definitely not related to the current one!

Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick [Re: Green Cochoa] #192645
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Romans 13 says that we are to submit to the ruling authorities as long as it doesn't impact our obedience to the Law of God, namely the Ten Commandments.


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Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick [Re: Green Cochoa] #192647
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There were some times when the ruling authorities got involved in how we should practise our religion and at which time they were not obeyed.
Such as when Peter and John were preaching in Jerusalem and the authorities...
"...commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus. But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye. For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard." Acts 4:28-30
Then faced up with the same charges shortly after they met trouble again.
"And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them, Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man?s blood upon us. Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men." Acts 5:27-29
So I guess applying our obedience to the authorities only when it impacts our obedience to the law of God might at times have to be widened some to take in a more broad view of how the Ten Commandments might apply in certain cases.

Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick [Re: Green Cochoa] #192657
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Here is another example. The scriptures tell us and the SOP expands upon the idea and actually exhorts believers to not forsaking the assembly of ourselves together. And this applies even more so in these last days as it says in Hebrews 10:25, "and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." Yet the government comes along and forces us to do just the opposite. So God says one thing and the government says the other. We reason that it is for our protection and that of our neighbour that we are not heeding the counsel of God although there is some question as to the real need of this forsaking at all.
Now some may say we are still assembling but just in another way, that is through the wonders of online computer technology. But what about those who do not have access or the skills to take advantage of this method of fellowship?
I used to work as a Bible worker and mostly visited folks who could not attend church for various reasons. It was easy to see that without some sort of church fellowship their spiritual lives were handicapped and they were struggling against the forces of the world to hang on to their relationship to God and the truth.
I would say that Satan knows this is the case and that is why we are admonished to not forsake the assembling in the first place. So all of a sudden this scare comes along about the corona virus, and Satan has just what he wants. I cannot go door to door or visit the shut ins anymore because everyone is so scared that they are going to catch the virus and die. Meanwhile how many are dying from the spiritual disease of sin and we are handcuffed to reach out to help them?
Just something to think about.

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