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Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192872
08/17/20 09:07 AM
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Meanwhile in New Zealand!

"New Zealand To Place Everyone With COVID-19 In Mandatory Quarantine Facilities."
"Mandatory quarantine will apply to both new cases and, if necessary, close family members who might be at risk," the Director-General of Health said."
"New Zealand now has Quarantine Camps: "mandatory quarantine will apply to both new cases and, if necessary, close family members who might be at risk" with forced removal from your home if you do not comply."

https://caldronpool.com/new-zealand...d-19-in-mandatory-quarantine-facilities/


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192873
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The government of Alberta is busy grabbing extra power and making "temporary" "emergency" powers permanent!

Justice Centre challenges Alberta?s new Bill 24 as one more dangerous, authoritarian law!

https://www.jccf.ca/justice-centre-...as-one-more-dangerous-authoritarian-law/


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192881
08/19/20 02:58 PM
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In Australia a 21 year old woman without a face mask outside, refusing to give name and address to arresting police, was pushed against a wall with the police's hand on her throat, then wrestled to the ground with police sitting on top of her. She was arrested for "resisting arrest" and assaulting police, because she kicked out while being held against the wall. All because she wasn't wearing a mask OUTSIDE.

We used to be horrified by the fact police in Moslem countries beat up on women who let their hair show in public, now in so called "western countries" women get beat up for letting their noses show in public.

Oh -- it's all for the common good -- or is it?
After all it's just "a mask" -- or is it?
Why would just a mask come to such aggressive action by authority?


Another SCARY Bill is the 6666 Bill.
Are we paranoid by noting the number of the bill?

introduced by Rush on May 1, 2020 and also called COVID-19 TRACE Act
It "awards grants to eligible entities to conduct diagnostic testing for COVID?19, and related activities such as contact tracing, through mobile health units and, as necessary, at individuals? residences, (that means in your private home) and for other purposes. (what are these OTHER purposes?)?

"Congress must develop a national program to track, identify and isolate all possible traces of #COVID19. This is critical to safely reopening America. "

Doesn't sound very "opening" to me.

"Entities such as federally qualified health centers, nonprofit organizations, and certain hospitals and schools are eligible to receive such grants."

So schools will be set up as "tracing" units?


Oh, of course, there are promises this will not affect our freedoms.

But will they?

One person responds:
"massive government surveillance programs of private citizens in U.S. history, all under the guise of protecting people from the coronavirus?


What levels will this "quarantine" and "isolating" take????

Remember 80% of people who are said to "test positive" for covid-19 never show any symptoms of actually having the disease.
Also this unlimited "tracing" has NO END DATE, or condition by which it will stop, attached.

So a parent tests positive for covid-19 and is home isolated and continues to test positive.
Their kids in school test negative. Will they "isolate" the kids from the parents.
Just one horrifying possibility, among a multitude of variable possibilities that has people very WORRIED!!!!

There are SO MANY things showing we are slipping rapidly into a time in which living in this old world will no longer be pleasant.
The only hopefilled thing is -- there is another world, Jesus is coming soon!

More information on this Bill

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192890
08/20/20 12:45 PM
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"will no longer be pleasant"?
Of course, we know there will come a time when we will think how nice today was. The only thing to hope for is the "human factor". That someone will get too greedy and cause their plans to collapse till a future date.




Flu shot promotion.
This might be your most important flu shot ever

Experts estimate it could continue to hospitalize thousands and kill hundreds of people a day into September ? likely with more spikes in the coming months.

Really? After several months, our hospital finally got their first case. And "spikes" are defined as 1 or 2 additional people.

?If we have Covid-19 on top of the usual seasonal rise in hospital admissions due to influenza and other illnesses, we could overwhelm the health care system.?
..."It could stretch our health care systems and personnel close to the breaking point.?


Didn't we have that combination back in March? And why all this concern about "overwhelming" the health care system? We're still waiting for this breaking point. Is that supposed to be the purpose of government to control the demand for businesses?

Fortunately, we already have a safe vaccine for the flu, and nearly 200 million doses are slated to be available in the coming months.

Safer than what? And has it been effective? Will it be this year?

Uncertainty looms over flu season every year, but this time there are even more unknowns than usual ? from precisely what strains will be circulating to how the virus will interact with Covid-19 to whether our new pandemic habits will impact its spread. ?This year, in particular, we don?t know what to expect,?

But yet we know we will have doses available? For something we don't know precisely what strains.

It mutates quickly, and multiple strains circulate at any given time, some more harmful than others. This is why each year?s flu shot hedges its bets by fending off a few different strains ? and why you need to get a new flu shot every year.

Hedging and betting? On my health?

Vaccines take months to manufacture in such large quantities, so the process of designing the year?s vaccine begins way before flu season hits the US.
The process begins way before they figure out what it should be!


But this year, we are largely missing this crucial piece to the puzzle because the Southern Hemisphere has seen very little flu.

Missing pieces, no problem. Inject anyway.

The flu shot also doesn?t always keep people from getting the flu (and of course doesn?t protect against other respiratory viruses). But it does help keep their cases milder, including reducing the risk of getting admitted to the ICU.

Vaccines don't prevent disease!
Keep the cases milder? By what measuring rule?

?People come up to me and argue all of the time? that they got a flu shot but still caught the flu that season. Her response: ?Yeah, you got the flu. But you didn?t die.?
Oh.
Well, some people don't get the vaccine, catch the flu and still don't die. And they didn't have the risk of dying from the vaccine!

?We know flu vaccines aren?t perfect, but they do help, and can help blunt the onslaught,? Morse says. ?Anything that helps reduce disease is a terrific return on the investment.?
Vaccines don't prevent disease but reduce disease? Huh?

The power of the flu shot to prevent illness is so well-documented that many more workplaces and education systems are mandating it this year.
Lies and more lies. Is it well-documented it prevents the flu or that it "doesn?t always keep people from getting the flu"?

A large part of the testing concern is that tests for influenza often rely on the same techniques and equipment as those we are now using for Covid-19. ?Many of the lab tests for influenza use the same swabs and viral transport media that we use for SARS-CoV-2 testing,?
Really? I thought there was a mad scramble to obtain special swabs for Covid-19.

For those worried about visiting a doctor?s office or pharmacy while the coronavirus is circulating, Richards says, ?I think it is a greater risk to not get a flu shot.?
Did he just say that the risk of coronavirus is less risk than not getting the flu shot? A flu shot that is a stab in the dark for the right strain? That hasn't really been a factor in the southern hemisphere this year?

?this is a pretty easy thing. It?s a vaccine-preventable disease. Get a vaccine.?
Well, not really preventable. Maybe less severe some years if they guess right and squint at whether the symptoms are milder...

?At the very least,? they note, ?all levels of government should develop evidence-based immunization plans, appealing to individual?s ethical responsibilities to protect themselves, health care workers, family members, and vulnerable populations.?
There it is again. It is your patriotic duty to inject toxic foreign substances into your body for the good of others. Why not let others make that choice?

By developing more effective and efficient ways of getting the flu vaccine to more people ? and by honing public health communication around it ? we could find ourselves better prepared not only for more protection this fall and winter, but also for a future in which we could get the Covid-19 vaccine to more people, faster.
Ahhh. There's the real motivation for the push for flu vaccine this year.

In the meantime, Stockwell notes, ?as we are all awaiting a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, the influenza vaccine is something we have now that we know helps prevent influenza-related hospitalization and death.?
Kind of honest. Doesn't prevent disease, but less hospitalization. I'd like to see that study of a large group in the general population rather than a small study in a nursing home.

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192943
09/09/20 11:35 AM
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Anyone for GMO'd humans? Tricking our bodies to create antibodies against itself?
Look up plasmid vaccines. A plasmid is a self-replicating DNA that exists separately from chromosomal DNA, usually in bacteria. Once inserted in the cell, they will replicate with the cell.

Look up gmo plasmids. Used to genetically engineer organisms. They carry foreign DNA into the host. If the recombination is precise, then only the source DNA is inserted. If not so precise, and not so well understood, then unknown DNA is also inserted. You also have any intentional selection DNA such as, antibiotic resistance, included. And then you have the inconvenient DNA of the plasmid itself (and any previous accumulation) inserted also. What if that plasmid, unknown to the vaccine generators who are under rush, or under other motivations, had passed through and gathered DNA from other organisms (think bats) or viruses? And these GMO humans, will they be continuously generating new recombined viruses to infect the pure humans? No one really knows. Let's just try it and see what happens....

Reuters fact check used dishonesty in claiming it false. They said it doesn't modify human DNA. Technically true. But they conclude that humans aren't genetically modified. Not true. They are modified. Reuters used specific terminology in order make a false claim. Human DNA is not modified, but humans are modified.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-covid-19-vaccine-modify-idUSKBN22U2BZ
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the method does not involve changing people?s existing DNA.

Yep. Not existing. Just inserting new into the cell. As an extra separate DNA plasmid that wasn't there before!

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DNA vaccines do not integrate the virus? DNA into the cell nucleus of its recipient but instead inject part of the virus? DNA/RNA into tissues to stimulate an immune response in the body.

Not according to
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/...19-vaccine-in-months-rather-than-years1/
DNA-plasmid vaccines work by transferring the genetic blueprint to RNA in the cell machinery, which makes the spike antigens.

Be aware people. Think critically. They will play the shell game into trying to distract you.


From WHO
www. who.int/biologicals/areas/vaccines/dna/en/
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As proof of the principle of DNA vaccination, immune responses in animals have been obtained using genes from a variety of infectious agents, including influenza virus, hepatitis B virus, human immunodeficiency virus, rabies virus, lymphocytic chorio-meningitis virus, malarial parasites and mycoplasmas. In some cases, protection from disease in animals has also been obtained.

In some cases? Protection from disease? As to, what was any other purpose from "immune response"? That should clue everyone in, that when they talk about giving an "immune response", that does NOT mean preventing disease! So many studies only talk about reaction or "immune response", but nothing about whether it actually prevents disease. Probably because it doesn't! I can do similar to what they did in Salk and Pasteur days, and smear cow manure in an open wound and get an "immune response".

Billy gates is backing GMO humans. Need I say any more?
https://techcrunch.com/2020/04/06/a...melinda-gates-is-entering-human-testing/

Walter Veith & Martin Smith - Vaccines & The Mark - What's Up Prof? 27
https://youtu.be/pu9pxQOooBg

Are you human or are you something else?
Do you believe what God created was good, very good, or do you believe He needs help with improvements?
Or do you believe in evolution and therefore require help in driving the evolution forward with bio-engineering ourselves to become gods?

It's a moral issue: Do you believe in God or man? Are you going to do permanent and irreparable damage to your body's temple?

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192944
09/09/20 04:07 PM
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It's clear, the powers with the money are pushing the world into RESET.

So many things happening all at once to tear down the whole infrastructure of society, it's almost like living in a horror movie when one tunes in to what is happening in the world.


Back to the vaccine problem.

We know it's the ones in position to make enormous PROFITS from the vaccine that are pushing both the tremendous fear factor, and pushing for a mandatory vaccine.

Media has whipped up and is continuing to systematically whip up THE FEAR FACTOR
in populations concerning this new virus. Till everyone is practically screaming for a new vaccine which will ?magically? protect everyone from COVID-19.

It is interesting to note that the reason there isn?t a vaccine for coronavirus on the market isn?t because researchers haven?t tried. It?s because their attempts have resulted in vaccines that actually enhance the disease!!!!

Lab animals who receive the vaccine not only still get the disease but the disease is enhanced! A vaccinated person who then gets infected will have a far more serious case of the disease.
And yet they are already testing these vaccines on humans!
Kaiser Permanente Washington Research Institute in Seattle developed a COVID-19 vaccine in record time and started administering the shots early June 2020.

Professor Jonathan Heeney, Head of the Laboratory of Viral Zoonotics at the University of Cambridge, and one of the people working on a vaccine, says that coronaviruses present a particular challenge to vaccine developers.

?If you make antibodies against the spike, they can end up binding to it and helping the virus invade important immune cells known as monocyte-macrophages. Rather than destroying the virus, these cells can then end up being reprogrammed by the viruses, exacerbating the immune response and making the disease much, much worse than it would otherwise be.?

Even people who generally support the use of vaccines to combat viral infections, should be scared of this one. The rules are being broken, the safety protocols have been thrown out the window, and the mass hysteria caused by the coronavirus has led to reckless development of vaccines that will likely be flawed, too late, and possibly quite deadly.

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192946
09/09/20 09:26 PM
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Here is a good video on the issue of the coming vaccine by Walter Veith..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu9pxQOooBg

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192948
09/10/20 02:24 AM
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That's quite a video!!!
So Trump already has the MILITARY all lined up to distribute the vaccine very quickly to millions once it is developed and they will do it in a very powerful manner! Stripping away everything that would slow it down. This is supposedly them MOST SERIOUS PROBLEM we have encountered in our professional lifetime. And the pharmaceutical association cannot face any legal action for any potential side affects caused by the vaccine. WOW!

Why the military?
Why the powerful manner?
Military is "war" ?
This vaccine is addressing the most serious problem in their lifetime???? Really, but statistics show Covid is NOT the most serious problem this world has faced, so what IS the problem this vaccine is addressing?
Why the speed to inoculate millions QUICKLY, with great powerful haste?
And if it causes disaster, -- no worries, the victims have no recourse, they can't take any legal action?



Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: dedication] #192950
09/10/20 08:39 AM
09/10/20 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dedication
That's quite a video!!!
So Trump already has the MILITARY all lined up to distribute the vaccine very quickly to millions once it is developed and they will do it in a very powerful manner! Stripping away everything that would slow it down. This is supposedly them MOST SERIOUS PROBLEM we have encountered in our professional lifetime. And the pharmaceutical association cannot face any legal action for any potential side affects caused by the vaccine. WOW!

Why the military?
Why the powerful manner?
Military is "war" ?
This vaccine is addressing the most serious problem in their lifetime???? Really, but statistics show Covid is NOT the most serious problem this world has faced, so what IS the problem this vaccine is addressing?
Why the speed to inoculate millions QUICKLY, with great powerful haste?
And if it causes disaster, -- no worries, the victims have no recourse, they can't take any legal action?



Its all politics, get the vaccine out and the pandemic is over and you get the support of millions. So that has to be stopped, and so they came up with one patient that had an adverse reaction and all the pharmaceuticals will now make sure it isn't ready by the elections...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/08/health/coronavirus-vaccine-astrazeneca-pause/index.html

and the others close ranks...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/08/health/9-drug-companies-pledge-coronavirus-vaccine.html

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192957
09/11/20 08:27 PM
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They have to make sure it is safe. You don't just throw something out there, and see if it sticks.
This might be going to children.

I'm not taking the vaccine until it is proven relatively safe.


I am not worthy of the least of all the mercies, and of all the truth, which Thou hast shewed unto Thy servant;...
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