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Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192829
08/04/20 01:32 AM
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So who is really the charismatic charlatan of covid-19?
Who is censoring all science that is not in line with high fear, no cure, news output?
Who has caused the most deaths, depression, and hopelessness with their actions?
Who is pushing with great rigger and force just their own version "our truth", while their "our truth" may not be grounded in facts, science, or even sound philosophy? Who needs us to believe theirs is the "only" truth with a fervor to make it real; and this line of thinking leaves people wide open to be exploited?

No, it is NOT the common person going about their business and seeking a relatively normal life in this upside down crazy world.

Is the disease real? Of course it is real, and yes, people have died from Covid-19. But the way it is being handled is very problematic and troubling. The accepted version of "truth" is NOT really that interested in ALL the facts, science, or even sound philosophy.

In fact the only science that seems to be "accepted" is the Fauci/Gates line of "science" and their supporters.

Why are "NO CURES ALLOWED"?
How is it that many doctors can have next to zero patients die from the disease, and their findings are censored, while those doing the "accepted" things have many patients die?
Did you know that people put on ventilators have a 60-80% chance of dying?
Why is that procedure "accepted"?

Some doctors found HCQ was very helpful in conquering Covid-19.
Then a "test" for HCQ was organized. BUT the mandate for the text prescribed FOUR TIMES the accepted safe dosage, and to give it to patients several times a day who were already in extremely critical condition. Is it a surprise that many of them died?
That's not a "test" -- that was outrageous overdosing. Several countries refused to join "the test" because of the high mandated dosage. They knew it would shock the system and probably cause death.
But that "test" served the purpose of outlawing the treatment, which, when administered probably had saved lives.

So what we need now is not a lot of censorship (why they even censored the Presidents video of several doctors speaking on Covid 19), what we need now is to allow MORE voices from science, more voices sharing their findings, not just the one track narrow view that really offers us nothing except ineffective, depersonalizing face masks. There are other highly qualified doctors and scientists who findings not seen in main public media (at least not for long). Like Dr. Richard Bartlett.

This narrowing everything down to ONE main voice, and only allowing people who repeat the "one (supposed) truth" to have sole voice in the main public media. == while it is not THE crises, it is a road leading us closer to the crises.

Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192832
08/04/20 11:12 AM
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"The Charismatic Charlatans of COVID-19"

What started as a great article did a 180 degree flip-flop.
It turned into nothing but more hyped up over-exaggerated propaganda.

For instance:
"When the existence of the Coronavirus could no longer be denied, due to the piling up of dead bodies in our cities, "

Really? Are there really dead bodies piling up in our cities? Why more so than a normal year's flu season? Why is there a problem this year and not other years?

The irony of Vinnie writing for religious liberty. Vinnie not for freedom. Vinnie for coercion. Vinnie should indeed stay home and not object to others living life to the fullest.


Check out https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...irus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Look for the infections and deaths.
Just a bad flu year. And the deaths just barely meet the number of flu deaths, and that after pressure to exaggerate the deaths. People already with a life threatening disease and in hospice before the corona virus, are being marked as dying "from" corona. And with all that, it hardly makes a bad flu year.

A "spike" in cases. Then we find out 4 people got sick. The cases have "doubled"! From 2.

Thpppptttt.

Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: dedication] #192833
08/04/20 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by dedication

So what we need now is not a lot of censorship (why they even censored the Presidents video of several doctors speaking on Covid 19), what we need now is to allow MORE voices from science, more voices sharing their findings, not just the one track narrow view that really offers us nothing except ineffective, depersonalizing face masks. There are other highly qualified doctors and scientists who findings not seen in main public media (at least not for long). Like Dr. Richard Bartlett.

This narrowing everything down to ONE main voice, and only allowing people who repeat the "one (supposed) truth" to have sole voice in the main public media. == while it is not THE crises, it is a road leading us closer to the crises.

You know, that may be part of the plan, depersonalizing people. They will run that for awhile until the detect the right amount of bullying from others, and then proceed with the next step.

So many lies.

I've heard some say we are in the "second wave" and to expect a third wave this fall. When did the first "wave" end? Others say expect a second wave this fall. Is that a wave of government mandates?

Why should fauci expect this fall to be so bad along with the flu? Was not the flu going on the same time as when he invented this nonsense? Why would last year's flu not affect corona the same as this coming one? Is it because people (at least the ones who survived) had already recovered from the fall vaccination and when people get vaccinated this fall there will be an increased number of cases?

And why are we North American centric? Did not Australia go through the fall and winter no worse or better?

Critical thinking? Yeah, there's a lack of it.

Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192858
08/12/20 10:46 PM
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Has mask wearing decreased the spread?

For weeks we were told that the virus spreads through droplets that don't go through the mask, (that was to make mask wearing seem profitable) now they tell us it spreads through the air like aerosol spray! And guess what-- aerosol spray goes right through those masks the people are wearing. So the mask just gives a false sense of security.

Yes, it also traps germs, especially as the mask gets a little moist from your breathing, which means the wearer is actually collecting germs both from his own breath and from the surrounding environment, and breathing them into his/her lungs for as long as they wear that mask. Just watch the mask wearers, they are touching things around them and then touching and adjusting their masks many times. And how do you know those masks are germ free even before you put it on your nose and mouth?


Canada, other than a couple high population cities, has a very low death count --
Looking at a map of red dots for covid hot spots, it's almost like someone drew a line at the 49th parallel and said, "Thus far and no further",
It's in densely populated areas that covid does it's work -- there's proof that countries that don't have congested population and have lots of wide open natural space for their citizens, do a lot better. And no, mask wearing was NOT an in thing in these Canadian provinces, there were only a few with masks for the first four or so months -- not till just the last couple weeks when government started pushing them with a heavier hand, did we see the strange sight of many masked faces.
What we were doing before was obviously working.

The biggest advantage is opposite really, of masks -- lots of good fresh air to breath.

The problem with masks is that it is a means to another much more sinister end.
Forcing people to do something by restricting necessary life activities if they don't comply comes in "small steps." What's the big deal -- just a mask.
But forced vaccination of a high risk vaccination is on the horizon in the near future.
There's considerable information on 1918 Spanish flu and experimental vaccines--
Vaccines in general were still in the "experimental stage" at the time, and what better time to experiment when people were already dying and the deadly work of the vaccines would not be connected.
Forced covid vaccines NOW would be a massive experimental program, and if it is detrimental they'd just blame covid not the vaccine.

Even commentators in favor of forced vaccination, mentioned that USA might have a problem because people were resisting wearing of masks in America, and if they resist masksthey would probably resist vaccines, and the politicians had to be careful to maintain the public interest, thus it would be more difficult to enforce the vaccination. You see -- give in to the small steps, they lead to bigger steps.

Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192860
08/13/20 11:37 AM
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Now there's an example of critical thinking!

Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192861
08/13/20 11:42 AM
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However, would you wear a mask rather than being injected?
While masks don't work and have never been tested to prevent transmission of covid-19 (at least not widely publicized), it may not be good to prove they don't.

What would be interesting it to find out what percentage of people who have the disease had also been injected with the flu vaccine last fall....

Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192862
08/14/20 11:46 PM
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Good question.
If faced with two options -- wear a mask or be injected, which would be the lesser of two evils?
The mask would seem the safer choice at that point.

However, unless you make your own, a person really doesn't know what they are breathing when placing a mask over their mouth and nose.
Where are these masks made? In the same country that covid-19 originated !!!?

one minute video mask manufacturing

Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192884
08/19/20 03:12 PM
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The faceless masses.

After almost six months of this covid scare, more and more people are now beginning to wear masks. Fortunately we do not have the dragonic mandates for mask wearing, here, which are seen in other countries and in the big cities.

Yet, I can't help realize, as I look up at people around me, that we are entering a FACELESS society.


Some may say -- but it's just like wearing a seatbelt, it's just for your safety,.
But a seat belt does not take away from my personality -- a face mask does!

A person's face is the center of their personality which is shown to the world.

Just think of why people wore masks all through history.
It was to PRETEND TO BE SOMETHING ELSE, and or to hide their identity

There was no other reason for the masses to wear a mask.

Sure, IN SITUATIONS like working in a dusty area, or in hospital, a TEMPORARY mask is used, but note those are TEMPORARY situations, done for a specific task.

This new mask wearing is supposedly the NEW NORMAL a permanent hiding of the face for all people.
Whether they a sick or not, is not the issue, whether anyone is sick in the whole neighborhood or not, is not the question. The aim is to place a mask on EVERY face, so everyone is FACELESS.

Now consider history--
What is meant when society is seen as "faceless"?

No identity?
It is the "hiding" of self.


A society becomes increasingly deadened in it's social wellbeing, as the demise of distinctiveness among its citizens increases due to conformity. By losing the individuality that one holds, one is deprived of his identity.
One becomes just another faceless body among many other faceless bodies.

Other things to create a faceless society have already been implemented by technology.
A lot of things that once involved personal contact with real people, are now done digital, with voice messages, and touch buttons. Faceless interactions. Impersonal.
Now, the mask makes even the remaining interactions "faceless".


Personal experience -- when out there with lots of people in masks -- when one removes the mask and smiles and talks normal (not the muffled louder speech of the mask wearers) it's like the sun just came out!

Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192891
08/20/20 12:03 PM
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I'm finding when in a setting with masked people and some without, I'm paying more attention to those without masks. The ones with masks are just a blur. I may be biased in my perception that those who wear masks are traitors. Though when forced to wear a mask in a store, I have to realize they may be thinking the same of me?

I would think most people would have a hard time shooting someone. But if they are just a faceless mask, an unnamed entity, would it not be easier to shoot them?

I believe the reason there are so many lemmings following the one ahead of them over the cliff is too many don't know what the scientific method is, much less understanding it has not been applied to mask wearing, coronavirus, and vaccines.

Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192923
09/02/20 03:06 PM
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A drugged population is an easier controlled population.

?Morality pills? may be the US?s best shot at ending the coronavirus pandemic, according to one ethicist

They admit it's not right, but in a crisis, such doesn't matter. Preliminary preparations of the human mind for the future. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Because... we say so!

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