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Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193336
12/08/20 05:50 PM
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A 90 year old lady in the UK was the very first person to take the vaccine.

It will be interesting to see how she does in the weeks to follow leading up to the second dosage three weeks from now.


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Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193338
12/10/20 05:02 PM
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Actually she isn't the first to take the vaccine. Maybe the first to get the "released to the public" vaccine. There have been "trial shots" before this.

I guess if one believes that just because two people died after receiving the Pfiers trial vaccine and four other people who didn't get the vaccine also died during that time period, therefore the vaccine is perfectly safe????

And if one believes just because a 90 year old doesn't die within days after receiving the vaccine but dies several months later, since a lot of 90 year olds that didn't get the vaccine will also die with a year or so in the same time period, therefore the vaccine is perfectly safe?

Vaccines get their "perfectly safe" status simply because, in most cases serious adverse effects are not manifested in a dramatic, immediate way. Thus unmistakable evidence that it is connected to the shot is denied. When effects manifest themselves days or months later they can be passed off as resulting from other causes and considered as just coincidental.










Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193340
12/11/20 12:25 PM
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What they test for, is to make sure it doesn't kill you too fast. At least in the past, they didn't want a vaccine that would kill people. That's why they test for safety first, before effectiveness. If too many died, no one would buy their snake oil.

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193341
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The first COVID-19 vaccines won?t end the U.S. crisis right away

Vaccines aren?t always effective in everyone: Over the past decade, for example, seasonal flu vaccines have been effective in from 20% to 60% of people who get them.

AstraZeneca, Pfizer and Moderna say early trial data suggests their vaccine candidates are about 90% or more effective. But those rates could change by the time the studies end.

Also, the definition of ?effective? can vary.

Rather than prevent infection entirely, the first COVID-19 vaccines might only prevent illness. Vaccinated people might still be able to contract and transmit the virus, another reason experts say masks will remain crucial for some time.

Another important aspect of vaccines: They can take awhile to work.

The first shot of a COVID-19 vaccine might bring about a degree of protection within a couple of weeks, meaning people who get infected might not get as sick as they otherwise would. But full protection could take up to two weeks after the second shot ? or about six weeks after the first shot, said Deborah Fuller, a vaccine expert at the University of Washington.


Depending on whether the virus mutates in coming years and how long the vaccine?s protection lasts, booster shots later on may also be necessary, said Dr. Edward Belongia, a vaccine researcher with the Marshfield Clinic Research Institute in Wisconsin.


Aren't always effective.
Kind of negates the disease theory, don't you think?
Either they work or don't work. Sounds like they don't.
Take the risks of the vaccine for a possible 20% suggested maybe benefit?

Trial data confirms suggests 90% effective?!

Critical thinkers would ask, effective at what?

Effectiveness can "vary"? Really?!
'Son, you're quite effective at math... Well, at least 20% of the time, ...err, well at least coming close to some of the actual answers 20% of the time....err, well at least you wrote something on the paper.'

Vaccines don't prevent infection.
And that my friends, is a very true statement!
How come in the past they showed propagandized us in school how a single vaccination shot would cause our immune system to always kick in and prevent disease? Then it was only a certain percentage of the people, then you needed boosters, and now they freely admit it doesn't even prevent infection.
Infection, illness, disease. Did double-speak, newspeak, infect all the news sites and change the meanings of words?


So there you have it.
A vaccine that:
carries serious side effects
only suggests at some ambiguous varying "effectiveness"
doesn't prevent illness
still allows you to contract the disease
still allows you to transmit the disease
still requires you to wear masks which have been scientifically shown to be non-effective in preventing disease
takes a month and a half to give you a varying degree of ambiguous "effectiveness"
and requires you to keep taking it year year or month after month.

Would you take that?!
Why would you take that?

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193349
12/13/20 03:16 AM
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A lot of people will take it because if they don't they would lose their jobs and the privilege to mingle with society.
Right now is Christmas season (I know you don't celebrate Christmas but for a lot of people it's a big holiday.) So what is happening now?
A big "popup" appears on my computer ever so often saying,
ALL INDOOR AND OUTDOOR GATHERINGS ARE PROHIBITED.
No parties, no friends, not even family gatherings (if family members live in different households) are allowed.
People are upset!!! Disobedience could cost each person $1000.
Oh -- but all this will supposedly end when the vaccine does it's miracle
= === (which you just showed won't happen) ==but people are being programed to think all problems will be resolved with the vaccine.

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193350
12/13/20 03:46 AM
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Vaccine tampers with the DNA of life.
Conscience in the current Crisis

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Whereas the previous vaccines introduced a minuscule part of a disease to trigger the body?s immune response, they weren?t as invasive as this new technology. These new vaccines advance further than before, with both DNA and RNA vaccines entering into the cell. To put it in simple terms, the RNA vaccine enters the cell through the lipid layer and provides the information for the assembly of the spike protein that will protect the cell. The DNA vaccine enters the nucleus where it is transcribed into mRNA, which exits into the cytoplasm and then performs the same process as the RNA vaccine.

This form of vaccination is unlike any other previous vaccine....the realities of the development of the COVID-19 vaccine are shrouded in mystery, hidden behind patents, and thus not open for public investigation. The argument of the ?greater good? is not sufficient for us to trust these new medical technologies. ..
The question now is whose laws will I subscribe to? God?s natural law written in my DNA or a DNA-loaded vaccine whose contribution to the delicate symphony of life could be discordant and dishonoring to His original intent?

So the
vaccine is actually a bundle of genetic instructions that supposedly teach cells how to create proteins in order for your body to learn how to defend against the actual viruses. The question still remains, will the immune system figure out correctly what the instructions are telling it to do, or will the data upset the finely tuned balance of our cells?

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193354
12/16/20 10:53 PM
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A health worker in Alaska experienced a ?serious reaction? and was subsequently hospitalized after receiving a dose of Pfizer?s coronavirus vaccine, which the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved last week, according to reports.

This month, Britain?s National Health Service (NHS) confirmed that it was providing ?resuscitation facilities? in vaccination centers following reports of two individuals experiencing anaphylactic reactions after receiving the vaccine.

?Resuscitation facilities should be available at all times for all vaccinations. Vaccination should only be carried out in facilities where resuscitation measures are available,? the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said, offering ?precautionary advice.?

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193362
12/25/20 10:18 PM
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The push is on---
to get everyone vaccinated with this totally new, largely untested, experimental vaccine in as fast a time as possible.
Government may not mandate you get the shot (at least not directly) BUT indirectly
The shops
The businesses
The recreation centers
The transportation systems
ETC, ETC very likely will close their doors to everyone who refuses.

Seems to be a blue print for prophetic controls in the future.

THE TIME IS HERE when we need to trust fully and completely in our Savior.
What this year has taught us, is that earthly things can be taken away quite easily and quickly by earthly powers.

Psalms 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
118:9 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

Psalms 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, or in any human being, in them there is no help.
146:4 [They may make big speeches today But soon] they stop breathing, return to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
146:5 Happy is the person that trusts in the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the LORD his God:
146:6 Which made heaven, and earth, the sea, and all that therein is: He keeps truth for ever:


The following link is a study on vaccinations --
Vaccinated vs unvaccinated children

Not really safe to put ones trust in vaccinations ---

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193365
12/26/20 08:07 PM
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They are saying that those with adverse reactions to taking vaccines shouldn't take the vaccine.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

http://www.christians-discuss.com/forum/index.php
Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193370
12/28/20 05:03 PM
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Here is a very revealing interview with Dr Paul Thomas.

https://youtu.be/XCkOv7pVVEI


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
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