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COVID Hall of Shame #193929
03/26/21 12:16 PM
03/26/21 12:16 PM
kland  Offline OP
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Shame on them using Ellen White to promote drugs!


?We trust the FDA and CDC....

"The Bible says that human bodies are the Lord?s temple, and they are tasked with protecting them. It also says, Love your neighbors as yourself. During the coronavirus pandemic, both of these responsibilities mean doing all we can to protect ourselves and others from COVID-19."

Yeah? And how does me getting vaccinated protect anyone else? They could get vaccinated, if they live in fear. There's no point of destroying my body, the Lord's temple, for what the CDC says won't prevent disease, won't prevent spreading, and you still have to wear your mask.

Shame on AdventHealth Staff.

Re: COVID Hall of Shame [Re: kland] #193935
03/29/21 04:00 PM
03/29/21 04:00 PM
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Yes, the church is standing 100% behind the actions of governments in this Covid pandemic

It disheartens me.

It's true that "the end-time controversy will center on the law of God, and particularly on the fourth commandment"
And yet the church turns a blind eye and refuses to see how present laws are being enacted that will make mandatory Sunday laws (which people for years have said could never be made mandatory) an easy and seemingly logical next step.

"Seventh-day Adventists understand the ?mark of the beast? to be not a literal mark but a sign of allegiance that identifies the bearer as loyal to the power represented by the beast"

Yet isn't everything that's happening forcing the world to do things that are not "normal" calling it the "new normal" grooming the world to give unquestioning allegiance to the power of the beast and his image?

"consumption of unclean food and blood (Lev 11:1?20; 17:11?12; Acts 15:20) do not apply to vaccines for the obvious reason that vaccines are produced as medication to save lives, not to serve as food."

Since when is this "tradition" acceptable to replace the command of God?
Let many now ask, "Lord, what wilt thou have me to do?" It is the Lord's purpose that His method of healing without drugs shall be brought into prominence (Medical Ministry, p. 325)
Let them pray for the sick, ministering to their necessities, not with drugs, but with nature's remedies, and teaching them how to regain health and avoid disease.--(Testimonies, Vol. 9, pp. 171, 172).
Under cover of the medical profession, what iniquities have been practiced, what delusions supported! The physician may claim to possess great wisdom and marvelous skill, while at the same time his character is abandoned, and his practice contrary to the laws of health. ...They say we are not living as we ought, and prescribe changes that are contrary to the light God has sent. Brethren, how can the Lord let his blessing rest upon us when we are going right upon the enemy's ground? {CTBH 113.1}

"Hopefully an effective vaccine will help to bring the current pandemic to a halt."
This statement sees the current problem only as a disease and the reactions only as reactions to halt the disease. But the issues are MUCH deeper, broader with longer results.

Will the vaccine halt the disease?
Even the producers of vaccines say it is doing the OPPOSITE,
while the vaccination does combat the original Covid-19 virus, the virus itself is mutating into stronger strains that are even more deadly. There have been many mutations in Sars-CoV-2, the original virus that caused Covid-19, and the usual "two step" vaccination program, stimulates the virus to mutate to defeat the barrier the vaccination gave, before the second shot is given that would bring the antibodies to full strength against the CoV-2 original strain.
It is pretty much certain that a vaccine resistant supercovid virus will be sweeping the world shortly -- some say by June of this year.
Of course this will then be blamed on the fact that not everyone was vaccinated. Never on the vaccination program itself.
Next step -- new vaccines will be manufactured to try to stop the 'supervirus' and the mandate goes out that all must receive it. But that won't stop the mutations. So more vaccines are manufactured and mandated and -- well there is no end. Soon everybody will be required to take multiple vaccines every year, while the virus just keeps mutating!!! There is no end (at least not from a worldly standpoint) to this accelerating program.

What are the solutions being promoted?

GLOBAL forced vaccination.

According to the UK Express March 16, 2021
Lucas Ferrant, a biologist at the National Institute for Amazon Research....speaking to German news website Spiegel....
The biologist said: "We will experience a third wave with the P1 variant in around June,.... "This third wave has the potential to become even more deadly....
Mr Ferrante warned that if only a small proportion of the world's population is vaccinated, then the chance of a vaccine-resistant mutant developing is "particularly high"....
"A global pandemic can only be stopped on a global level.

"It is of no use if 100 percent of all Germans are vaccinated and in the meantime new, vaccine-resistant mutants are emerging in Brazil.

"The virus always finds a way."

As a result, he has appealed for the global production of vaccines to be considerably ramped up, with the doses distributed "fairly and sensibly".

And in a huge warning to Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, the expert added: "The Europeans and the US need to put much more pressure on the Bolsonaro government.

"Economic sanctions must not be taboo either.
It would probably have been better just to let the virus play itself out, instead of stimulating it to produce superviruses with the vaccination.
Just like they never stopped the flu virus, they won't be able to stop the covid virus.

And no, vaccination, face masks etc. are NOT the MARK of the Beast.

However, in order for the "beast" and His "image" to enforce the actual MARK of the beast globally, they first must establish the ability to enforce global mandates complete with Economic Sanctions. And that is what they are doing NOW, they are clearing the path and paving it, preparing the WAY; and sometime in the very near future, under the guise of saving the earth and for the common good of all nations, the global Sunday mandate will follow. It's already being promoted.

Re: COVID Hall of Shame [Re: kland] #193956
04/03/21 06:32 PM
04/03/21 06:32 PM
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3ABN hosted a two hour program on the Covid vax.
Aired Thursday evening April 1, Friday morning April 2, and will air again Sunday afternoon April 4, and Tuesday morning April 6.
Six doctors telling the viewers that the vax is a good thing and even encouraging parents to get their children aged two and up vaccinated. Basically they were giving the standard high pressure media information.

I already knew most of the Conferences were 100% in step with all the "new normal" stuff, but was really quite shocked and disappointed to see 3ABN supporting it like this.

Well- with all the censorship going on, and all the propaganda and actions taking place, that disparages any alternative media sources that question the State?s narrative as dangerous organizations linked to disinformation, it isn't totally surprising. And with the possible imposing of blockage from popular media outlets upon those pointing out problems, I guess the church is more interested in maintaining its status rather than taking note of what is really going on.

Of interest --
search the web for all the pastors, priests, rabbis and other religious influential people,
who THIS VERY EASTER WEEKEND are giving messages to halt vaccine hesitancy.

Why on EASTER WEEKEND (when many who rarely tune in to church, do tune in) are so many influential religious urging the vaccine upon their flock?

Seems that several weeks ago Walter Veith shared evidence that the promoters were planning to get religious leaders to urge their flocks to take the vaccine? Seems it is all part of getting this experimental substance into EVERYONE .

Re: COVID Hall of Shame [Re: kland] #194181
06/23/21 10:25 AM
06/23/21 10:25 AM
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At the same time, we have been entrusted with the Adventist health message embodied in and expanded upon by the writings of Ellen White, summarizing healthful living through practical and wholistic healthy lifestyle behaviors.

Amen! So no need for artificial injections of chemicals, right?

We advocate all of these practices to maintain a healthy immune system, and in the pandemic, even more is needed. Ellen White was not only an inspired conduit of health information much ahead of her time, but she modeled practical prevention in the face of the lethal disease in her era, smallpox, and took the immunization herself, as did those close to her.1 Today, smallpox has been globally eradicated.

While God is a great designer of our health, He needs to be helped at times?
But did D.E. Robinson say anything about her and vaccinations prior to that time? Why did he change his comments? And has smallpox been eradicated because of vaccines? Was that subjected to science or only to vaccine promoters' opinion?

Pseudo "facts" parroted by NAD:
mRNA -
Since it does not enter the nucleus of the host cell, it does not change the DNA or genetic structure/function.

But... https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021...us-translation-independent-function.html
"has found that a specific sequence of messenger RNA (mRNA), which exists outside cells, binds to receptors on the surface of natural killer (NK) cells and is taken up into the nucleus. "
And... https://www.pnas.org/content/102/47/17008
"Using molecular beacons to track single mRNA molecules in living cells, we have characterized the diffusion of mRNP complexes in the nucleus."
and many more.

The first dose showed a 50-percent immune response protection. The second dose reached 95 percent protection!

Protection? From what? I cut my hand and stick it in cow manure and I get an "immune response". But that doesn't mean I'm immune to anything. If I cut my hand again and stick it in cow manure but don't get an "immune response", would that be a good thing or bad thing?

There are no preservatives in these two COVID-19 vaccines, which is why they require deep freeze/freezer facilities for storage and transport. The vaccine is carefully purified.

No preservatives? Interesting. Why not list the vaccines?
And what is in the mRNA???
"Recombinant, replication-incompetent adenovirus type 26 expressing the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein:a modified and harmless version of a different virus (Adenovirus 26) is used as a ?vector? to deliverthe DNA gene sequence to produce the coronavirus spike protein. "

Vector?! Yikes!
Vectors are used in some GMO gene insertions.
Who decides and how, to what degree the other virus is "harmless"?
What happens to the code of this "harmless" virus?
'Just trust us, go ahead, drink the kool-aide'

"Once the modified adenovirus vaccine enters into the cells, the body of the virus essentially disintegrates and the DNA material within it travels into the nucleus of the human cell where it is transcribed into mRNA. "

But wait, I thought NAD parroted that it did NOT enter the nucleus!

Should we blindly "trust"?


"The Oxford vaccine uses what is called a ?viral vector? approach. The scientific team took an adenovirus ? a type of pathogen that causes a common cold ? and spliced in the same spike protein genetic sequence from the coronavirus."

Hmmm... combining adenovirus with coronavirus. I wonder if they could possibly have recombination to create a more virulent common cold virus? If you incubate it in enough people, who knows....

"So yes, the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine does actually mean a genetically engineered virus is injected into your body."
"Yes, some COVID vaccines use genetic engineering. Get over it."

Re: COVID Hall of Shame [Re: kland] #194182
06/23/21 10:34 AM
06/23/21 10:34 AM
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?If you get vaccinated, you've protected yourself. And you no longer spread it to others so you are benefiting the community.?
This is an important reason why we should prayerfully and thoughtfully consider a vaccine ? not just your care for your own body, but your care for the vulnerable people you encounter.?
But if I follow our health message, then I've already protected myself and won't likely get sick from the coronavirus. And if others follow the health message I cannot spread it to them. And if they follow the propaganda and get vaccinated, I cannot spread it to them, right? So why this propaganda dishonesty from our church leaders? Only adds to the conspiracy that leaders are involved in the future plans.

Landless continued, ?Never forget, the reason this Church was given a health message was not so that we could be long-lived sinners. It?s because our work is not yet finished. When asked that question Ellen White was very clear. We were given this message because our work is not yet done. So whatever means God entrusts to us, gives to us ? if it's helpful, if it's sensible, if it stands the tests of evidence-based, peer-reviewed health science and is carefully and responsibly done ? I do not believe that [using] this is a denial of our faith.?

Except it does NOT stand the tests of evidence-based, peer-reviewed health science.

Yes, it appears a good majority of our leaders have joined with the beast. I can just hear them when the sunday laws start becoming enforced. Just more of the same spinning.

Re: COVID Hall of Shame [Re: kland] #194183
06/23/21 07:42 PM
06/23/21 07:42 PM
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"... Vaccines are important to the health of a community," said Williams, chair of the Department of Social and Behavioral Sciences at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. "If you get vaccinated, you've protected yourself. And you no longer spread it to others so you are benefiting the community. ..."" - https://www.nadadventist.org/news/s...nce-and-faith-draws-large-number-viewers

Except that both points stated by DSBS (I think it really means 'Deep State Bull Sticky') are demonstrably untrue:

From the CDC (current):

"... We are still learning how effective the vaccines are against new variants of the virus that causes COVID-19. ..."

"...We are still learning how well vaccines prevent you from spreading the virus that causes COVID-19 to others, even if you do not have symptoms. ..." - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/keythingstoknow.html

"... a small percentage of fully vaccinated people will still get COVID-19. There is some evidence that vaccination may make illness less severe in people who get vaccinated but still get sick. ..." - - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html

"... Additionally, CDC does not maintain or monitor a person's vaccination records. ..." - - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html

"... it's possible a person could be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 just before or just after vaccination and still get sick. This is because the vaccine has not had enough time to provide protection. ..." - - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html


"... These bits of evidence are promising. But without more studies, scientists cannot yet conclude that COVID-19 vaccines really do protect against all transmission. ..." - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health...st-covid-19-still-spread-the-coronavirus

WHO (World Health Organization):

"... Being vaccinated does not mean that we can throw caution to the wind and put ourselves and others at risk, particularly because research is still ongoing into how much vaccines protect not only against disease but also against infection and transmission. ..." - https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/covid-19-vaccines


"... Other data from Israel suggests that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine may reduce transmission even in the event that it doesn't prevent infection. ...

... people who became infected after inoculation ..." - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...n-still-spread-the-coronavirus-quicktake

Scientific American:

"... They found that if a vaccine protects 80 percent of those immunized and 75 percent of the population is vaccinated, it could largely end an epidemic without other measures such as social distancing. "Otherwise, you won't be able to rely on the vaccine to return us to "normal,"" says Bruce Y. Lee, a co-author of the paper and a professor at the CUNY Graduate School of Public Health and Health Policy. That is, if the vaccine only prevents disease or reduces viral shedding rather than eliminating it, additional public health measures may still be necessary. ..." - https://www.scientificamerican.com/...ovid-transmission-to-curb-the-pandemic1/

Oh, they talk about 'early data', but that data is spotty at best, and massively under reported (since it has to be reported to them, since they [CDC] just admitted of not keeping or monitoring a person's vaccination records, as that is up to local physicians, etc). Did you read that, "We are still learning ..."? It means that the general populace IS (currently) the guinea pig, is the test phase.

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Re: COVID Hall of Shame [Re: kland] #194184
06/23/21 08:43 PM
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No matter what I say, or tell you, or someone else (among mankind tells you, or even an "angel from Heaven" (Gal. 1:8)) on any subject, follow what God's Word (KJB) says, and know what it says on any subject, in all matters of faith and practice for yourself and be able to explain your belief and actions on His word. It is your personal duty toward God to stand for the right though the Heavens fall. If you simply follow what I say, you will be led astray at some point (major or minor), and thus I will have failed you in giving Godly counsel. The true counsellors of God are His testimonies (Psa. 119:24, and thus have a multitude therein, Pro. 11:14). Thus if what I say and do agrees with His word, then accept, but if not, reject. Disagreement on any subject is not necessarily evil, listen:

The word "Vaccine", or "Vaccination", comes etymologically from:

"vaccination (n.)

1800, used by British physician Edward Jenner (1749-1823) for the technique he devised of preventing smallpox by injecting people with the cowpox virus (variolae vaccinae), from vaccine (adj.) "pertaining to cows, from cows" (1798), from Latin vaccinus "from cows," from vacca "cow," a word of uncertain origin. "The use of the term for diseases other than smallpox is due to Pasteur" [OED]." - vaccination | Origin and meaning of vaccination by Online Etymology Dictionary - https://www.etymonline.com/word/vaccination

Which brings to the next point about what has always been said about Vaccines, scientifically and medically, is that they are made from, and often carry, animal embryo, DNA, of either "bovine" (cow), monkey, dog, pig, or chicken (are the primary animals used), and even aborted human fetal (baby) tissue, along with all manner of other stabilizers, catalysts, suppressants, etc.

You can see some of that here, from the CDC excipient list:



mRNA "vaccines" aren't even real "vaccines", as they do not meet the definition of "vaccine". mRNA literally rewrites the cell's instruction, making the cell an antigen, which then produces pieces of foreign toxin, that which the body sees as a threat and attacks and eliminates right down to the corrupted cell. The immune system is made weaker, since the body is now become 'autoimmune' and sees its own cells (now threats) as enemies.

Looking at this from a theological point of view, let us bring the subject back up to a higher plane, and speak spiritually.

The Church, is likened unto a Body:

Eph_5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Col_1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

Col_1:24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:​

And so, if we consider that a virus, is like a deadly foreign toxin that invades a "body", we can liken it unto evil or bad belief/doctrine/practice that corrupts the body and can even get the body to fight itself (auto-immune).

The "body", the Church, has an immune system, the general outer body first, then leaders, like deacons and elders, pastors, etc that all heresies, error must get past first, before it can infect the whole, and a standard, the Bible, which all things are checked before admission into the body. For instance, a pervert, an adulterer, or someone like a known Jim Jones, etc, is not accepted into the Body, right?

Would any healthy "body" seek to bypass the outer defenses, and inject straight into the pulpit, a known heretical professor of foreign belief (like atheism, occultism, etc), doctrine or practice and see how the church reacts from it? or allow such person, or multiple persons (like multiple vaccines) to teach for 6 months to the whole body? Would that be sanity or insanity? Healthy or unhealthy?

What if we first weakened the person by blindfolding them, and then allowing them to preach from the pulpit or classroom for so long a time? Would that be any different?

What if we placed such persons, with venomous doctrines, beliefs and practices (by passing the body) straight into the theological seminaries, where they could readily disseminate throughout the whole body their materials? Just like a vaccine does to a human body?

What if we instead, or in addition, weakened all the deacons, elders, pastors, teachers in the church, by placing stoppers in their ears, and then allowed such foreign elements to come in and teach to the rest of the body, just as like weakening the immune system and white blood cells through aluminum and other adjuvants in the vaccines?

I know of a Beast (Genesis 3:1) in the Bible that likes to inject poisons through a needle-like fang - the serpent.

Jer_48:44? "He that fleeth from the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that getteth up out of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for I will bring upon it, ..."

They will actually cause the very epidemic they hoped to avoid.? They make of their own immune system (cells through mRNA) the eternal producer, which in time, mutates, and thus becomes not merely a single strain, but thousands.

God has warned them.

Pro 1:22? How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
Pro 1:23? Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
Pro 1:24? Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
Pro 1:25? But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
Pro 1:26? I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
Pro 1:27? When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Pro 1:28? Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
Pro 1:29? For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
Pro 1:30? They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
Pro 1:31? Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
Pro 1:32? For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.

They have chosen their strong delusion, and delight in it.? Let them enjoy it while they can.

Think about this, please:

Rev 16:2? And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

A plague (of health; Psalms 91:3) is coming for which there will be no cure.? An irreversible disease.

Once people start messing with genes-splicing, DNA, RNA, mRNA, and other cellular level 'cures' (thinking to add or take away from the word of God, for DNA is language), they are priming themselves for an irreversible disease, one they can no longer 'control' (if you thought that the imaginary tale of Jurassic park and uncontained Raptors was bad, wait until you have rampant evil RPTOR's on the loose - RPTOR - Wikipedia).?? Something which cannot be undone.? It is coming.? I told you in advance.

The "earth" is even tied to the beast of the "earth" in Revelation 13.? Apostate protestant America, the very "image" to the beast of the "Sea" (Revelation 13, 16:3).

Because mankind rejects the health law of God, they will reap what they sow (sow to the wind, reap the whirlwind, a larger storm), and always more than they sow, some 30, some 60 and some 100 fold.? The law of sowing/reaping is a fundamental principle of God's created order.

"... Any man, be he minister or layman, who seeks to compel or control the reason of any other man becomes an agent of Satan to do his work; and in the sight of the heavenly universe, he bears the mark of Cain. ..." - MS 29, Nov. 17 1911, par. 60 - https://text.egwwritings.org/search...rs+the+mark+of+Cain%22&Search=Search

"...?To give prudence to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.?
For ages education has had to do chiefly with the memory. This faculty has been taxed to the utmost, while the other mental powers have not been correspondingly developed. Students have spent their time in laboriously crowding the mind with knowledge, very little of which could be utilized. The mind thus burdened with that which it cannot digest and assimilate is weakened; it becomes incapable of vigorous, self-reliant effort, and is content to depend on the judgment and perception of others.

Seeing the evils of this method, some have gone to another extreme. In their view, man needs only to develop that which is within him. Such education leads the student to self-sufficiency, thus cutting him off from the source of true knowledge and power.
The education that consists in the training of the memory, tending to discourage independent thought, has a moral bearing which is too little appreciated. As the student sacrifices the power to reason and judge for himself, he becomes incapable of discriminating between truth and error, and falls an easy prey to deception. He is easily led to follow tradition and custom.

It is a fact widely ignored, though never without [page 230-231] danger, that error rarely appears for what it really is. It is by mingling with or attaching itself to truth that it gains acceptance. The eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil caused the ruin of our first parents, and the acceptance of a mingling of good and evil is the ruin of men and women today. The mind that depends upon the judgment of others is certain, sooner or later, to be misled.

The power to discriminate between right and wrong we can possess only through individual dependence upon God. Each for himself is to learn from Him through His word. Our reasoning powers were given us for use, and God desires them to be exercised. ?Come now, and let us reason together? (Isaiah 1:18), He invites us. In reliance upon Him we may have wisdom to ?refuse the evil, and choose the good.? Isaiah 7:15; James 1:5. ..." - Education, pages 230-231 - https://text.egwwritings.org/public...ed.%22&resultId=1&isLastResult=1

"... Some men have no firmness of character. They are like a ball of putty and can be pressed into any conceivable shape. They are of no definite form and consistency, and are of no practical use in the world. This weakness, indecision, and inefficiency must be overcome. There is an indomitableness about true Christian character which cannot be molded or subdued by adverse circumstances. Men must have moral backbone, an integrity which cannot be flattered, bribed, or terrified. ..." - Testimonies For The Church, Vol. 5, page 297 - https://text.egwwritings.org/public...+any+conceivable+shape%22&resultId=2

"...But there is no union between the Prince of light and the prince of darkness, and there can be no union between their followers. When Christians consented to unite with those who were but half converted from paganism, they entered upon a path which led further and further from the truth. Satan exulted that he had succeeded in deceiving so large a number of the followers of Christ. He then brought his power to bear more fully upon these, and inspired them to persecute those who remained true to God. None understood so well how to oppose the true Christian faith as did those who had once been its defenders; and these apostate Christians, uniting with their half-pagan companions, directed their warfare against the most essential features of the doctrines of Christ.
It required a desperate struggle for those who would be faithful to stand firm against the deceptions and abominations which were disguised in sacerdotal garments and introduced into the church. The Bible was not accepted as the standard of faith. The doctrine of religious freedom was termed heresy, and its upholders were hated and proscribed.
After a long and severe conflict, the faithful few decided to dissolve all union with the apostate church if she still refused to free herself from falsehood and idolatry. They saw that separation was an absolute necessity if they would obey the word of God. They dared not tolerate errors fatal to their own souls, and set an example which would imperil the faith of their children and children's children. To secure peace and unity they were ready to make any concession consistent with fidelity to God; but they felt that even peace would be too dearly purchased at the sacrifice of principle. If unity could be secured only by the compromise of truth and righteousness, then let there be difference, and even war. ..." - The Great Controversy 1911, page 45 - https://text.egwwritings.org/public...QUERY=difference+even+war&resultId=4

Beware therefore, of the 'paganism' of the customs of the people, and their actions and beliefs, even if they come from me or from the church members, doctors or even family.

?In matters of conscience the soul must be left untrammeled. No one is to control another's mind, to judge for another, or to prescribe his duty. God gives to every soul freedom to think, and to follow his own convictions. "Every one of us shall give account of himself to God." No one has a right to merge his own individuality in that of another. In all matters where principle is involved, ?let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.? Romans 14:12, 5. In Christ's kingdom there is no lordly oppression, no compulsion of manner. The angels of heaven do not come to the earth to rule, and to exact homage, but as messengers of mercy, to co-operate with men in uplifting humanity.? {The Desire of Ages, 550.6} - https://text.egwwritings.org/public...%2C%22&resultId=2&isLastResult=1

"The foundation of Christianity is Christ our righteousness. Men are individually accountable to God, and each must act as God moves upon him, not as he is moved by the mind of another; for if this manner of labor is pursued, souls cannot be impressed and directed by the Spirit of the great I am. They will be kept under a restraint which allows no freedom of action or of choice." {Testimonies for the Church, Volume 5, 725.2} - https://text.egwwritings.org/public...act+as+God+moves+upon+him&resultId=1

SDA - Vance Ferrell - The Vaccination Crisis


SDA Raymond Obomsawin 1. Letter To SDA, GC & NAD Church Leaders


SDA Raymond Obomsawin 2 Alarming Actuallties Pandemic & COVID 19 Vaccines Pt 2


SDA Raymond Obomsawin 3 Epidemiological Survey Graphs Vaccinated Vs Unvaccinated


SDA Raymond Obomsawin 4 God?s Church At A Crossroads Dr J Chou


SDA Raymond Obomsawin 5 SDA Church Pacific Union Vaccine Memo


SDA Raymond Obomsawin 6 Historical Actualities Immunity Disease & Vaccination Pt 1


"Chapter 8 - The Physician, An Educator

The true physician is an educator. He recognizes his responsibility, not only to the sick who are under his direct care, but also to the community in which he lives. He stands as a guardian of both physical and moral health. It is his endeavor not only to teach right methods for the treatment of the sick, but to encourage right habits of living, and to spread a knowledge of right principles.

Need of Education in Health Principles

Education in health principles was never more needed than now. Notwithstanding the wonderful progress in so many lines relating to the comforts and conveniences of life, even to sanitary matters and to the treatment of disease, the decline in physical vigor and power of endurance is alarming. It demands the attention of all who have at heart the well-being of their fellow men.

Our artificial civilization is encouraging evils destructive of sound principles. Custom and fashion are at war with nature. The practices they enjoin, and the indulgences they foster, are steadily lessening both physical and mental strength, {pg 125 > 126} and bringing upon the race an intolerable burden. Intemperance and crime, disease and wretchedness, are everywhere.

Many transgress the laws of health through ignorance, and they need instruction. But the greater number know better than they do. They need to be impressed with the importance of making their knowledge a guide of life. The physician has many opportunities both of imparting a knowledge of health principles and of showing the importance of putting them in practice. By right instruction he can do much to correct evils that are working untold harm.

A practice that is laying the foundation of a vast amount of disease and of even more serious evils is the free use of poisonous drugs. When attacked by disease, many will not take the trouble to search out the cause of their illness. Their chief anxiety is to rid themselves of pain and inconvenience. So they resort to patent nostrums, of whose real properties they know little, or they apply to a physician for some remedy to counteract the result of their misdoing, but with no thought of making a change in their unhealthful habits. If immediate benefit is not realized, another medicine is tried, and then another. Thus the evil continues.

People need to be taught that drugs do not cure disease. It is true that they sometimes afford present relief, and the patient appears to recover as the result of their use; this is because nature has sufficient vital force to expel the poison and to correct the conditions that caused the disease. Health is recovered in spite of the drug. But in most cases the drug only changes the form and location of the disease. Often the effect of the poison seems to be overcome for a time, but the results remain in the system and work great harm at some later period.

By the use of poisonous drugs, many bring upon themselves lifelong illness, and many lives are lost that might be {pg 126 > 127} saved by the use of natural methods of healing. The poisons contained in many so-called remedies create habits and appetites that mean ruin to both soul and body. Many of the popular nostrums called patent medicines, and even some of the drugs dispensed by physicians, act a part in laying the foundation of the liquor habit, the opium habit, the morphine habit, that are so terrible a curse to society.

The only hope of better things is in the education of the people in right principles. Let physicians teach the people that restorative power is not in drugs, but in nature. Disease is an effort of nature to free the system from conditions that result from a violation of the laws of health. In case of sickness, the cause should be ascertained. Unhealthful conditions should be changed, wrong habits corrected. Then nature is to be assisted in her effort to expel impurities and to re-establish right conditions in the system.

Natural Remedies

Pure air, sunlight, abstemiousness, rest, exercise, proper diet, the use of water, trust in divine power?these are the true remedies. Every person should have a knowledge of nature?s remedial agencies and how to apply them. It is essential both to understand the principles involved in the treatment of the sick and to have a practical training that will enable one rightly to use this knowledge.

The use of natural remedies requires an amount of care and effort that many are not willing to give. Nature?s process of healing and upbuilding is gradual, and to the impatient it seems slow. The surrender of hurtful indulgences requires sacrifice. But in the end it will be found that nature, untrammeled, does her work wisely and well. Those who persevere in obedience to her laws will reap the reward in health of body and health of mind. {pg 127 > 128}

Too little attention is generally given to the preservation of health. It is far better to prevent disease than to know how to treat it when contracted. It is the duty of every person, for his own sake, and for the sake of humanity, to inform himself in regard to the laws of life and conscientiously to obey them. All need to become acquainted with that most wonderful of all organisms, the human body. They should understand the functions of the various organs and the dependence of one upon another for the healthy action of all. They should study the influence of the mind upon the body, and of the body upon the mind, and the laws by which they are governed. ..."

"... Training for Life's Conflict

We cannot be too often reminded that health does not depend on chance. It is a result of obedience to law. This is recognized by the contestants in athletic games and trials of strength. These men make the most careful preparation. They submit to thorough training and strict discipline. Every physical habit is carefully regulated. They know that neglect, excess, or carelessness, which weakens or cripples any organ or function of the body, would ensure defeat.

How much more important is such carefulness to ensure success in the conflict of life. It is not mimic battles in which we are engaged. We are waging a warfare upon which hang eternal results. We have unseen enemies to meet. Evil angels are striving for the dominion of every human being. Whatever injures the health, not only lessens physical vigor, but tends to weaken the mental and moral powers. Indulgence in any unhealthful practice makes it more difficult for one to discriminate between right and wrong, and hence more difficult to resist evil. It increases the danger of failure and defeat. {pg 128 > 129}

?They which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize.? 1 Corinthians 9:24. In the warfare in which we are engaged, all may win who will discipline themselves by obedience to right principles. The practice of these principles in the details of life is too often looked upon as unimportant?a matter too trivial to demand attention. But in view of the issues at stake, nothing with which we have to do is small. Every act casts its weight into the scale that determines life?s victory or defeat. The scripture bids us, ?So run, that ye may obtain.? Verse 24.

With our first parents, intemperate desire resulted in the loss of Eden. Temperance in all things has more to do with our restoration to Eden than men realize.

Pointing to the self-denial practiced by the contestants in the ancient Greek games, the apostle Paul writes: ?Every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: but I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.? Verses 25-27.

The progress of reform depends upon a clear recognition of fundamental truth. While, on the one hand, danger lurks in a narrow philosophy and a hard, cold orthodoxy, on the other hand there is great danger in a careless liberalism. The foundation of all enduring reform is the law of God. We are to present in clear, distinct lines the need of obeying this law. Its principles must be kept before the people. They are as everlasting and inexorable as God Himself.

One of the most deplorable effects of the original apostasy was the loss of man?s power of self-control. Only as this power is regained can there be real progress. {pg 129 > 130} ..."

"... {pg 130} The body is the only medium through which the mind and the soul are developed for the upbuilding of character. Hence it is that the adversary of souls directs his temptations to the enfeebling and degrading of the physical powers. His success here means the surrender to evil of the whole being. The tendencies of our physical nature, unless under the dominion of a higher power, will surely work ruin and death.

The body is to be brought into subjection. The higher powers of the being are to rule. The passions are to be controlled by the will, which is itself to be under the control of God. The kingly power of reason, sanctified by divine grace, is to bear sway in our lives.

The requirements of God must be brought home to the conscience. Men and women must be awakened to the duty of self-mastery, the need of purity, freedom from every depraving appetite and defiling habit. They need to be impressed with the fact that all their powers of mind and body are the gift of God, and are to be preserved in the best possible condition for His service.

In that ancient ritual which was the gospel in symbol, no blemished offering could be brought to God?s altar. The sacrifice that was to represent Christ must be spotless. The word of God points to this as an illustration of what His children are to be??a living sacrifice,? ?holy and without blemish,? ?well-pleasing to God.? Romans 12:1 R.V., margin; Ephesians 5:27.

Apart from divine power, no genuine reform can be effected. Human barriers against natural and cultivated tendencies are but as the sandbank against the torrent. Not until the life of Christ becomes a vitalizing power in our lives can we resist the temptations that assail us from within and from without.

Christ came to this world and lived the law of God, that man might have perfect mastery over the natural inclinations which corrupt the soul. The Physician of soul and body, {pg 130 > 131} He gives victory over warring lusts. He has provided every facility, that man may possess completeness of character.

When one surrenders to Christ, the mind is brought under the control of the law; but it is the royal law, which proclaims liberty to every captive. By becoming one with Christ, man is made free. Subjection to the will of Christ means restoration to perfect manhood.

Obedience to God is liberty from the thralldom of sin, deliverance from human passion and impulse. Man may stand conqueror of himself, conqueror of his own inclinations, conqueror of principalities and powers, and of ?the rulers of the darkness of this world,? and of ?spiritual wickedness in high places.? Ephesians 6:12.

In no place is such instruction as this more needed, and nowhere will it be productive of greater good, than in the home. Parents have to do with the very foundation of habit and character. The reformatory movement must begin in presenting to them the principles of the law of God as bearing upon both physical and moral health. Show that obedience to God?s word is our only safeguard against the evils that are sweeping the world to destruction. Make plain the responsibility of parents, not only for themselves, but for their children. They are giving to their children an example either of obedience or of transgression. By their example and teaching, the destiny of their households is decided. The children will be what their parents make them.

If parents could be led to trace the result of their action, and could see how, by their example and teaching, they perpetuate and increase the power of sin or the power of righteousness, a change would certainly be made. Many would turn away from tradition and custom, and accept the divine principles of life. ..." - The Ministry of Healing; pages 125-131

Informed Consent, a practice in thinking.


Asking the practicioner (Dr., Nurse, etc),

"What is in the Vaccine (or Vaccines)?"? in other words, what are the detailed and specific "Ingredients" and their amounts per dosage/injection?" (Ask for each shot to be administered)? If the practiciioner does not know, the next question to ask is

"Why do you not know what the ingredients are, since as a practicioner of 'medicine' it is their sworn duty (under hippocratic oath) to know what they are prescribing their patients unless it would do irreparable harm?"


"Who is the manufacturer of the Vaccine being given, and what is their tract record of safety, and testing, and have they ever been sued under the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Effect Reporting Systems) court, and if so, how recently, and for which Vaccines, and if they were sued, did the? claimant/s win their case, and if so (how many cases) what was the amount in damages given, and what were the damages claimed?"? Again, if the practicioner does not know, they are again in violation of the Hippocratic oath.


"Based upon the known ingredients of each Vaccine, what are the known reactions, or allergies that each ingredient can cause (and what are the safety limits for human toleration, ie for Mercury, Formaldahyde, etc), and what are the short term and long term (possibly permanent) side effects going to be?"? Remember it is your body and life, and you will have to live with what happens, and they (the practicioner) will not, and they are protected by plausible deniability, and your "consent", and the court systems (in general).


"How many safety studies has the practicioner read on that specific Vaccine, and in what peer-reviewed scientific medical journals, etc can those studies be found (ie, PLOSone, Science, JAMA (Journal of American Medical Association), Nature, Collegiate, etc, and obtain the specific reference to check for Informed Consent)?"? If the practicioner cannot name one, they are again in violation of the Hippocratic oath, and are merely an unknown medical experiment drug pusher, as a final sales rep (an ignorant one at that) for the pharmaceutical company paying their salary.


"Based upon Gender (Sex, Male/Female), Age (Baby, Child, Youth, Adult, Elderly) and Weight (overall Health Index, or BMI (Body Mass Index), Reflexology, Muscle Mass, White Blood Cell Count, T Cell Count, etc), What are the known reactions to the Vaccine under each specific class, and their percentages, and cite at least two known peer-reviewed double blind studies??? Every person is different and their reaction to the ingredients in each vaccine will always vary, and never be the same (though there can be groupings of similar reactions), as each Vaccine that has been legally produced has been deemed, by the US Supreme court systems as "unavoidably unsafe".? [1] https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf???? [2] https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/09-152.ZD.html


"Has anyone died within a period of 3-6 months of receiving the specific vaccine being administered, and if so, what was the Sex, Age, etc of the deceased, and the causes that led to that death?"? If the practicioner says that they do not know, they are again ignorant of what they are administering, and is an unsafe person to be handling such chemicals, ingredients.? They would be in the same boat as if a child of six were administering it to you.? If persons have died, in relation to the Vaccine, what is the percentage of Vaccinated vs deaths per total, and per area (like Locality in American Samoa, etc), as some localities may have a bad batch and that is important to understand for decision making.


"How many vaccination shots, of the specific Vaccine to be administered, has the specific practicioner given, and over what period of time?"? This will relate to the personal testimony of the practicioner, and whether or not they have a history with the vaccine, or without one.? Also, do they have any of their own patients who have complained of side effects or who have died as a result of such administering (this does not violate specific patient/doctor confidentiality, as death records (and cause) are public (under normal circumstances), and the general medical knowledge is not violating any confidentiality laws, as you are not asking for specific names or anything that can in any way identify individual persons.


"Is the manufacturer of the Vaccine in any way associated with the Board of directors at the CDC, FDA, AMA, WHO? organizations, and/or are there any relationships with the Board of Health, or Board of Directors of the Medical Facility, or the immediate doctors/nurses which is administering the Vaccine?"? This question is to establish or disestablish conflict of interest, which can also be a violation of the Hippocratic oath depending.? If there are associations, what are they?? A similar question is Does the Medical facility receive any payouts for administering the Vaccine, and if so, what are they (amount, ask to see the tax records and the public financial records of that medical facility)?

Has the 'Cov-19 virus' ever been isolated, and if so, what peer-reviewed medical paper shows this so I can read it and verify?

The PCR test was never meant to identify or isolate individual virus, etc at 30+ cycles.? At those level of cycles of magnification (multiplication really) and above the PCR test can false positive for thousands? of things, so says the inventor of the PCR test.

Has there been any false positives when testing for Cov-19 (SARS-CoV-2)?? if so, how then does the medical facility know for certain that what is tested as positive is really positive and not a false positive or misidentification.

Have you seen the study which demonstrated that the known cases of Cov-19 were actually found to be Influenza A and Influenza B strains (some coming from the vaccine themselves) and not a new item?

Have you seen any studies of comparison between last years cases (2015-2019) of common clod and flu with this years cases (2020-2021), which shows a massive dive in colds and flus, and a massive spike in so called Cov-19?? Do you think that is how bacteria and viruses normally work from year to year, and if so, can you cite any peer-reviewed studies in scientific medical journals which show any comparisons that are similar in any year since Vaccines were invented?

What is the lethality rate of the so-called Cov-19 among the varied age ranges (infant, child, youth, young adult, adult, elderly), and what is the rate with co-morbidities and without co-morbidities?, and if the rate is less than 2% for youth to young adult, for even infection of the so called Cov-19, what is the purpose of the Vaccine?

If others are being Vaccinated, and they have the 'immunity', and the so-called 'herd-immunity' is basically reached why do I need your Vaccine at all?

It is taking an object lesson from the violence of vaccines and their unnaturalness, to show that the same thing happens in the churches. Satan injects into the pulpits, pews, seminaries his wickedness, and puts the church immune system to sleep:

Mat_13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

Mat 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

What I see is a resistance to God's methods, and a reliance upon man's methods. They have forgotten their true healer:

Psa_146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

Murder By Injection by Eustace Mullins:


Re: COVID Hall of Shame [Re: kland] #194188
06/25/21 09:08 PM
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Wow! I saw this just recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMbAf6GxNhU . I really like Stephen Bohr.

He says in this video that Ellen White got the smallpox vaccine. Amazing.

Re: COVID Hall of Shame [Re: TheophilusOne] #194191
06/26/21 09:55 AM
06/26/21 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TheophilusOne
Wow! I saw this just recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMbAf6GxNhU . I really like Stephen Bohr.

He says in this video that Ellen White got the smallpox vaccine. Amazing.
The response is already given by the White Estate:

"... In 1924 W. C. White, Ellen White son, wrote to Dr. L. C. Kellogg in Loma Linda, California. Kellogg had asked about Ellen White?s attitude toward vaccinations. According to W. C. White ?she regarded it as a perplexing question.? He continued, ?I do not remember of [sic] her ever saying or writing that she had special instruction regarding vaccination.? Willie saw his mother as approaching the matter rationally in the absence of direct prophetic revelation:

In my earlier days she spoke of it as something dangerous and related my own experience. She said that as a child I was perfectly healthy until I was vaccinated and by that my health was much impaired. Mother listened attentively to the arguments that the methods of vaccination had been improved, and when in our travels we were brought to a large city where smallpox was raging and the matter was discussed as to whether or no [sic] that I and my associates should be vaccinated, she offered no objection, and in view of the argument of the physicians that it was not only for our own safety but for the safety of others. I and my associates were vaccinated.?[1] ..." - https://whiteestate.org/about/issues/vaccinations/

Notice, that it was her son that was vaccinated, as a child, and then later as an adult. He was sicker for it, and said it was "something dangerous". In other words, she understood there was great risk involved in receiving it. Yet it doesn't say she "approved" (anywhere). it says she did not object (she kept silence on that situation, although she had already earlier stated to her son that it was "dangerous", and her son confirms his rather decline in optimal health afterwards). Her son was old enough to make the decision, knowing what he already knew. The son went ahead.

Then follows another statement by the White Estate:

"... In 1931 D. E. Robinson wrote another letter in response to a question on vaccination. He indicated that even Ellen White received a vaccination against smallpox.

You will be interested to know however, that at the time when there was an epidemic of smallpox in the vicinity, she herself was vaccinated and urged her helpers, those connected with her, to be vaccinated. In taking this step Sister White recognized the fact that it has been proven that vaccination either renders one immune from smallpox or greatly lightens its effects if one does come down with it. She also recognized the danger of their exposing others in they failed to take this precaution.[4] ..." - https://whiteestate.org/about/issues/vaccinations/

Again, please notice that this is second hand (not first hand) information. There is also a rather large step in logic that is taken by D. E. Robinson in the latter part of his statement, that is not warranted by the facts (if true that she did indeed receive such). He says as a conclusion (after accepting the first part as true), "In taking this step Sister White recognized the fact that it has been proven that vaccination either renders one immune from smallpox or greatly lightens its effects ... She also recognized the danger ... [if] they failed to take this precaution." Nonsense. That is all his own personal conclusion irrespective of any other actual facts. There is not logical connection. The gulf is spanned by pure imagination. That is pre-loading the conclusion for others, and without any justification from sister White herself as to the motive, etc (if true). When was this event to have occurred (what year???) Remember that the Health message grew from infancy and ignorance to knowledge and understanding. Ministry of Healing was just published in 1905. It did not mention vaccines at all. Also, if we accept the second hand story as true, then we are speaking about a single shot of a much more mild disease, given to a grown adult (with a healthy immune system functioning, without co-morbidites in association), lacking all the adjuvants that are in vaccines today, and completely absent of mRNA cell-instruction altering materials. That is not the example that is happening today, at all. As much as sister White was a godly woman, and understood some things on health, she is not the standard we are to follow. She admits in her own writing that she, of herself, is not infallible (citations upon request). Sometimes, people also make decisions as best they know how, with the knowledge they have, even though it may not be the best decision. It might also involve the lesser of two evils of the time.

There is nowhere in scripture, which it was deemed beneficial to give or spread a disease from one person to another. Leviticus and Deuteronomy are always clear about infection, contagion, molds, etc. Containment of the disease, along with water washing, bathing, eating healthy, etc, not its' (the plagues) spread to attempt cessation of breakout (that would be equivalent of using a nuclear blast to put out a spreading fire. Will the fire the nuke was ignited upon go out? O certainly, but at what cost?)

The 'vaccinia' (differing from variolation) is not the same thing being used after 1958 and today (with all the adjuvants, etc that now exist with the disease, and these are yet far differing than mRNA cell instruction altering strands). - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_vaccine

It has been shown by the CDC itself that smallpox vaccination can cause death, inflammation of the heart tissue, etc. - https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/vaccine-basics/vaccination-effects.html

The Center for Infectious Disease says the same, and lists the adverse effects -

"... Alex R. Kemper, MD, MPH, and colleagues estimate that 25% of the population would have to avoid the shot because of a high risk of adverse events for themselves or their close contacts. The authors describe their estimate in the March/April issue of the journal Effective Clinical Practice...." - https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...ox-vaccination-us-could-cause-285-deaths

25% (1/4th) is a whole lot more than the CDC is saying.

I sit here, desiring to simply cry at all the abuse that happens to sister White, even though she is long buried.

Jesus is the example. Not sister White.

The only time Jesus had his skin deliberately pierced was at the circumcision, and in his death, by crucifixion.

All this foolishness, the closure of churches, the turning away of people at the doors of the true hospital (church), the rape of conscience, the tyranny of their mask-erade, the abuse of SoP/ToJ to justify evolutionary based science falsely so called, and then to use sister White (after she is dead and cannot speak for herself) all in the name of 'health' so called. People are hypocrites. They whine about protecting people from a common cold/flu with all these ridiculous measures, when many millions of people are actually dying from heart disease (meat/flesh eating), liver failure (alcoholism, etc), diabetes (fat and sugar), over sexed, and all manner else. Where is the real cry for any of those things? Where are the fines, masks, and body cavity searches and needles to keep people from spreading their diet, their lusts of the flesh, lust of the eyes and pride of life. You will never see it from them. Hypocrites, the lot of them.

Oh, they cite sister White in this one second hand instance, but preach on true health, to put away the flesh (and use sister White as that example; HA!), and they flee to their hell-holes when that light is shone, and they decry from their dank caverns of selfishness that the preacher is the devil himself to come and take away their firstborn.

(Where was Bohr when they closed churches on a whim and no evidence? Where was Bohr when they were abusing Leviticus to lock up healthy people?) (PS, as one who used to serve with AFmin, I have met Bohr in person).

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Re: COVID Hall of Shame [Re: kland] #194192
06/26/21 06:20 PM
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"(Where was Bohr when they closed churches on a whim and no evidence? Where was Bohr when they were abusing Leviticus to lock up healthy people?) (PS, as one who used to serve with AFmin, I have met Bohr in person)"

I have no idea what you are on about here. We have had people at church die of COVID.


"People are hypocrites. They whine about protecting people from a common cold/flu with all these ridiculous measures, when many millions of people are actually dying from heart disease (meat/flesh eating), liver failure (alcoholism, etc), diabetes (fat and sugar), over sexed, and all manner else. Where is the real cry for any of those things? Where are the fines, masks, and body cavity searches and needles to keep people from spreading their diet, their lusts of the flesh, lust of the eyes and pride of life. You will never see it from them. Hypocrites, the lot of them."

Oh, my, how judgemental you are.

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