Agreed!


Agreed! That's a good example and there's other examples in the Bible. I don't think the Lord limits His revelation to one Church. I think this skepticism works against us.


Oh Messianic Jews keep the Sunday??? Maybe they give their Churches the option. The ones that I have read about and knows of....they keep Sabbath.

I think Johnathan Cahn was given several pieces of the puzzles(end time revelation). I don't agree with the interpretation he gives to some of his revelation, however I don't question the source and the revelation. We all do not have the full picture of the truth. We all see thru veils and our understanding is blurry.

So even though someone receives a revelation, it doesn't mean he understand it, and most was not given the interpretation of it. A lot of problems with received revelation is many puts on their faulty interpretation on the revelation received. A mature Christian will only speak what was reveal to him in its most purest form. He can speculate of what he things it means if the Lord didn't give him any interpretation. However he will communicate clearly that his interpretation is speculative and wouldn't treat it as truth.


There's a string of truth in this, but the problem is many think they know the truth. How can Jesus teach us anything new or correct any of our understanding when we think we have the truth and all the end time revelation. Remember Jesus told us we are very Laodicean thinking we know, see, and are dressed. Reality(as I found out via studying our(SDAs) doctrines) is we don't know the truth. The little truth we have is very SUPERFICIAL that at times is attached to all kinds of men's theories to it.

We need to always be open and be ready to have any of our understanding be corrected and be shown new things.

What we need to be faithful to is Jesus and NOT to the light. Whatever light(truth) we think we understand may be lacking(have some portion attach to teachings of men, incomplete, wrong interpretation, etc...), and if Jesus comes to correct it, we will take His voice as being of the devil. We need to be able to recognize the Lord's voice and follow it wherever He leads us -- to new revelation - to deeper understanding...etc...

As SDAs we have very little experience in walking in the Spirit. Our walk is very intellectual and left brain. So the mentoring of Mike Parson can be helpful. I know for myself, I need some major help in that area.

Elle, I watched the Mike Parsons video you posted above. It was very interesting, full of insight but also mixed with error. It reminded me of the vision of Ellen White of those Millerite Adventists who did not follow Christ by faith into the Most Holy place. As they prayed for the Spirit, Satan was allowed to breath on them his spirit and in it there was light and power but no love, joy and peace. I don't judge Br. Mike but his revelations are not from the right source because:

1) They aren't Christ centered.
2) They are promote an earthly hope whereas our hope is heavenly.

This second point is the main dividing line from the time of Adam until today between true and false religion. All of the patriarchs and men and women of faith after them looked for a heavenly city whose builder and maker is God. The mistake of the Jews was their hearts were set on a worldly kingdom but Christ's kingdom is spiritual, not of this world. This is the same issue that Rick Wiles of Trunews constantly struggles with. He knows the teaching of Christ and even rejects the importance of modern Israel as prophetically significant but is always interviewing guests that promote armed conflict and policies of force so that US interests are protected. It's the same with Victor Houteff - he adopted the hope of a physical promised land because his view is carnel.

What's significant about the Parson's video is that even the forces from beneath appear to believe that this fall will witness a watershed event or events in human history. Satan is trying his best to lay a ground work so that as many of Christ's followers as possible will be taken in the net of a false hope for a political solution to bring peace on earth. In that vein don't be surprised if our understanding of Revelation 14:6-12 will be challenged from every angle and a false construction placed on these verses. I expect that many of our own will embrace a new application of these verses as it becomes apparent that they are being fulfilled in some format but not according to the carnal desires of Adventists who have set their hearts on earthly things.

Short note, Elle. I posted this last post before I was aware of yours. I take your point to heart that we have to be Spirit lead and none of us can evaluate our own hearts and know exactly what errors we cling to etc. For that we have to claim the promises of God that if we will let Him God will reveal sanctifying truth to us, primarily through His word. We can indeed know the Truth, and that Truth, Christ as revealed in the word, will make us free.

Excepting, of course, those who have been killed by the angels. Seems they're a little warped, to me.

People like to say SDA's don't listen to anything outside the church.

I notice most SDA's will listen to almost anything, but they know to test all that they see and hear. The Bible counsels us to test the spirit and truth of all that is taught.

I find this to be a wise practice.

Mark Shipowick said:

"What's significant about the Parson's video is that even the forces from beneath appear to believe that this fall will witness a watershed event or events in human history. Satan is trying his best to lay a ground work so that as many of Christ's followers as possible will be taken in the net of a false hope for a political solution to bring peace on earth. In that vein don't be surprised if our understanding of Revelation 14:6-12 will be challenged from every angle and a false construction placed on these verses. I expect that many of our own will embrace a new application of these verses as it becomes apparent that they are being fulfilled in some format but not according to the carnal desires of Adventists who have set their hearts on earthly things. "


Is it just a coincidence that the first Jesuit Pope in history, Francis, is also for the first time in history, addressing Congress on September 24, 2015? Is it also just a coincidence that Pope Francis will address the United Nations the following day, September 25?

I agree, for many reasons, September 2015 bears watching...

Hopefully a papal visit will help calm tensions around the world and enable SDAs to proclaim the 3AM more fully.

This came to an abrupt halt just over 7 years ago.

We have gone through a lot of things since then including Covid-19, Hurricane Fiona here in Nova Scotia, and Hurricane Ian in Florida, which are all signs of the nearness of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, not to mention the soon coming of the Sunday laws, that does need to happen first, leading into the Mark of the Beast and the Seal of God.

We are definitely living in interesting times.

Daryl, I just finished watching your excellent presentation from June 25, 2022 at Pugwash Church: ?In The Last Days?. The increase in followers of Wicca/witchcraft to two million in the USA is a particularly shocking statistic. A few minutes later, I happened upon this revived thread. There are no coincidences with God. Troubles are coming upon the Earth in ever increasing rapidity and intensity, as a woman in travail. Interesting times, indeed.

Amen!

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