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Re: Bible Doctrines affected by Modern Versions
[Re: Rick H]
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10/12/22 11:06 PM
10/12/22 11:06 PM
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As to Uriah Smith -- EGW endorsed his book, but I fully agree that, that does not make everything in his writing the ultimate truth on how to interpret every verse. What he did write, however set the correct pattern as to how Daniel and Revelation are to be interpreted. It is this method, -- seeing the fulfilment of these prophecies unfolding all along history to the final restoration -- that EGW fully endorsed. As to modern writers -- there are some that give good insights into the Bible passages, but there are MANY who have distorted things till every wind of doctrine can be "proven" by scripture. The dialogue going into much more depth concerning modern writers on the books of Daniel and Revelation has been moved to "Daniel and Revelation Interpretations"Any dialogue on Bible Versions are welcome on this thread.
Last edited by dedication; 10/20/22 12:45 AM.
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Re: Bible Doctrines affected by Modern Versions
[Re: Rick H]
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10/20/22 12:43 AM
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This week as I was studying the Sabbath School lesson, read a text in the KJV that I found a little difficult, so looked it up in other versions and it was quite different.
KJV
Psalms 49:8 For the redemption of their soul is precious, and it ceaseth for ever:
49:9 That he should still live for ever, and]not see corruption.
Yet when I read it in NIV
Psalm 49:8-9
8 the ransom for a life is costly, no payment is ever enough? 9 so that they should live on forever and not see decay.
NASB
Psalms 49:8-9 For the redemption of his soul is costly,
And he should cease trying forever?
That he should live on eternally,
That he should not undergo decay.
NAB
8 No man can ransom even a brother,
or pay to God his own ransom.
9 The redemption of his soul is costly;
and he will pass away forever.
10 Will he live on forever, then,
and never see the Pit of Corruption?
RSV
8 for the ransom of his life is costly,
and can never suffice,
9 that he should continue to live on for ever,
and never see the Pit.
The different versions are saying slightly different things.
How do you folk explain that verse?
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Re: Bible Doctrines affected by Modern Versions
[Re: Rick H]
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10/21/22 01:50 AM
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Adam Clarke Bible Commentary seems to give an explanation that fits the KJV without the additions the versions seem to add.
And it ceaseth for ever]
This is very obscure, and may apply to the ransom which riches could produce. That ransom must be for ever unavailable, because of the value of the soul.
Or this clause should be added to the following verse, and read thus: "And though he cease to be, (vechadal,) during the hidden time, (leolam;) yet he shall live on through eternity, (vichi od lanetsach,) and not see corruption." This is probably the dark saying which it was the design of the author to utter in a parable, and leave it to the ingenuity of posterity to find it out. The verb (chadal} signifies a cessation of being or action, and {olam} often signifies hidden time, that which is not defined, and the end of which is not ascertained, though it is frequently used to express endless duration.
Basically how that commentary seems to explain it is: "For the redemption of their soul is precious, (riches are unavailable to pay the ransom) And though he cease to be, during the hidden time (the undefined time spent in the grave) Yet he shall live throughout eternity. The NAB was probably the closest in saying "He will pass away" ... "forever" OR for an undefined time. The other translations point to the need for the superior ransom which we realize only Christ provides. But that "obscure" phrase in the KJV: "And it ceaseth" seems to also add the concept of being hidden in the grave for an undefined time awaiting a resurrection.
Last edited by dedication; 10/21/22 01:54 AM. Reason: the Hebrew was garbled.
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Re: Bible Doctrines affected by Modern Versions
[Re: Kevin H]
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10/24/22 08:10 PM
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I think Kevin said it well and has the view we should all have. Often a good recommendation is to find a Bible that is easy for you to read. There are Bibles written on the third grade reading level. Then have a study Bible to spend more time with, and if you can have a few different study Bibles (either your own, or in a local library.)
And yet there are some of the past, and of the present, who would lock the Bible up physically or in a language people don't understand and say that's the only true Bible. They want people to be discouraged and think it's too hard to read, to cause them to give up. No one has a monopoly of understanding.
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