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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
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08/21/24 09:12 AM
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Jesus set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens when He ascended after the resurrection.
The myriad of angels adore and worship Him for what He has accomplished for the salvation of men. The Seven Angels now ready to pour out the cup of the wrath of God to the wicked but God the Father has not command them to do so yet. The voice of God from the temple comes out only at the close of probation.
Rev. 7:12 "Amen,...Amen" all the angles around the throne sing the sevenfold praises. Rev. 15:1 "And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God." Rev. 9:13 "And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God." The temple has the four horns and the voice is God's command.
The Seven Angels portray all the angels in heaven. In biblical interpretation, the word seven represents completion and perfection. They were wearing "...having their breasts girded with golden girdles" (Rev. 15:6), which implies their standing location is before the throne of God, where Jesus also sits.
"Then the seven angels came out of the temple, carrying the seven plagues..." (Rev. 15:6). The sounding of the sixth trumpet signifies the close of probation. Jesus' ministry on the Day of Atonement is now finished as God the Father responds to Jesus's pleas. The mark of the close of probation has indeed come at this point.
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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
[Re: Karen Y]
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08/28/24 02:39 PM
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Two events must happen before Jesus' second coming according to the prophecy.
1) The Seven Plagues
2) Close of Probation
I wonder which events come first? God sounded the warnings of close of probation within the Seven Trumpets' message.
I perceive the evidences of the seven plagues in this world already happening as the seven trumpets voiced: pestilences, pollutions, deceptions, corruptions in systems, apostate religions and ecumenism movement etc., etc.
God will not do anything unless He reveals His secret to His servants. The Seven Plagues are the fulfillment of the Seven Trumpets' warning.
Amos 3:7 "Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."
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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
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09/10/24 11:45 AM
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In fear and trembling heart, we need to proclaim the Seven Trumpets' message for the Day of the Lord is coming.
Zephaniah 1:18 "Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the Lord's wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land."
Though the spiritual Babylon is in a condition of fallen, it will not collapse unless the Seven Trumpets' message proclaimed.
1 Cor. 14:8 "For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?"
The reason why we couldn't challenge the great city Babylon is because of the misinterpretation of the Seven Trumpets as the historical events.
Notice that the Seventh Seal, which signifies the end of the world, broke. Then, the Seven Trumpets appeared in the unfolding of the prophetic visions.
We see internal coherence in the overview of Revelation that the Seven Trumpets(Ch. 8-11) has a clear relationship to the fall of Babylon(Ch. 17-18).
Also, the seven feasts of OT testify a concise paradigm: the length of the feast of unleaven bread is 7 days; the feast of tabernacle is 8 days; the feast of trumpets before the Day of Atonement is 9 days.
I believe that 2,000 years since Jesus' resurrection and ascension has allusion to the feast of trumpets as a warning message, not as events, considering the significant mark of the year 1844.
Rev. 10:7 "But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets."
God's people have to sound the alarm of the Seven Trumpets as God intended and designed as so. Then, the spiritual Babylon will collapse and Jesus will come.
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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
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09/30/24 11:43 AM
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1 Cor. 14:8 "For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?"
Revelation begins with "a great voice, as of a trumpet" (Rev. 1:10) on the Lord's day, the Sabbath. Seventh-Day Adventists should pay attention to this trumpet's sound! The call to action has been given!
The sound of the trumpet grows louder, drawing our attention to the throne of God, where the investigative judgment is open for humanity.
In Revelation 4:1, it says, "...I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me..."
A moment of half-hour silence intensifies the significance of the following seven trumpets.
The seven trumpets are connected to the seven plagues, and their descriptions correspond. They warn of the upcoming events that will be realized in the seven plagues, a perfect and complete warning of the seven.
2 Chron. 20:15, 20, "...Thus saith the?Lord?unto you, Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle is not yours, but God's."
"...Believe in the?Lord?your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper."
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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
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10/06/24 11:03 AM
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David confidently shouted at Goliath, knowing that the battle belonged to God. Despite Goliath's loud voice, David trusted in God's authority and power in heaven. Goliath's voice did not intimidate David. From the initial encounter with Goliath, David spoke in a loud voice.
Just as David was fearless in the face of Goliath, SDA will be like David. We hear "a great voice, as of a trumpet," guiding us to participate in the work of the salvation of men. Because the battle belongs to the Lord God, we must endure patiently in the truth until the end.
Revelation contains numerous loud and powerful voices, but none originate from Satan. While Satan's voice may appear impressive to humans, it holds no significance before our mighty God.
2 Chron. 20:15, 20, "...Thus saith the Lord unto you, Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle is not yours, but God's."
"...Believe in the Lord your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper."
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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered
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In overview of Revelation, the Holy Spirit inspired John from the onset of visions.
The Seven Churches (Ch. 1-3); John was in the spirit on the Lord's day(Rev. 1:10).
Throne Room investigative judgment (Ch. 4-5); John was in the spirit to see the throne room (Rev. 4:2).
The Seven Seals (Ch. 6-7); the interlude(Ch. 7) between 6th and 7th emphasizes the seal of God, the Sabbath.
The Seven Trumpets (Ch. 8-11); the interlude(Ch. 10) between 6th and 7th emphasizes the Lord of the Sabbath(Ch. 10:6).
Unmasking Satan's Identity (Ch. 12-14); revealed Satan's ID before the punishment of the Seven Plagues. counterfeit Sabbath=the mark of the beast (Ch. 13). The Seven Plagues (Ch. 15-16); the most wicked and impenitent receive the full cup of the wrath of God. Rev. 16:9, 11 "...and they repented not to give him glory.; ...and repented not of their deeds." In the overview, it is clear the Holy Spirit empowers saints who keep the Sabbath day. In other words, the Sabbath is the day to receive the Holy Spirit.
People entering the Seven Churches are judged in the throne room and sealed after examination. Only the sealed individuals would know how to sound the Seven Trumpets.
In the Advent movement, people have a prophetic message about the Sabbath. Chapter 10, verse 11, states, "...thou must prophesy again..." As verse 6 mentions of Him, "who created heaven,... and the earth,...and the sea".
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