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Trump's Threats on Canada #198367
01/08/25 03:41 PM
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At first I though it just a joke. When Trump talked about increasing Tariffs, Trudeau visited him and said that would hurt the US as well as they get considerable natural resources from Canada. Trump replies, well, maybe Canada should be the 51st state of the USA.

But now the news here is flooded with comments from Trump repeating the idea. That through tariffs and economic pressure they will take over Canada and make it the 51st state. A country BIGGER than the whole USA to be called a 51st state! Is this a ploy to get free natural resources.

Trump Ups Threats
Trump's threats

Mexico isn't happy either, even Greenland has been mentioned as a possible conquest.

So is Trump just "trolling" to get the world into high fright mode? Or is he a serious threat?

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198368
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Has this "take over" been in progress for many decades already, and Trump is just moving to the next level?


Canada has been a proud nation, industrious, and strong defenders for their own sovereignty and distinction from the USA. History reveals several times when the USA tried to take over Canada. The early colonists with the help of Britain had to drive the Americans out several times. It was by blood that Canada became a well recognized and great nation, distinct from the USA .

*In the summer of 1775 Americans, before they had even declare their independence from Great Britain launched an invasion of the neighboring British colony of Canada. Their aim was to take Quebec and gain control of the St. Lawrence River.

*June 1812, Thomas Jefferson launched a three-pronged invasion of Canada, thinking that annexing Canada would be an easy task. That's one war that is described in Canadian history books much differently than it is described in USA history books as both claim victory. The truth is that the Canadian/British army drove the invading Americans out of Canada and chased them clear down to their capital in Washington DC burning down the capital building. Canadians claim victory as the American armies were successfully driven out of Canada. Americans claim victory because they were able to drive the Canadian/British army back out of the USA and they also won some other wars on American soil. But the American invasion to take Canada, was defeated!


It was after World War II that Canadian special relations with the United States became more intertwined .
The idea of ?continentalism,? was taking root which challenged the theory of national independence. Continentalism involved the gradual absorption of North American territory into the U.S. So Canada, being a nation in it's own right, had to be brought into subjection economically to the USA. Continental disputes with Canada were based on America seeking commercial control of Canadian natural resources and agriculture. Most agreements between the US and Canada were set up to give the US first access to many of these resources. Canada was always to deliver an agreed upon quota of the finest resource to the USA, before they could partake of their own resources. In return we would import many items from the USA.
I remember living in a community where the main job was working in a lumber mill. The lumber was all graded, the top grade went to the USA, while our houses and stores got the lower graded lumber.

What I'm seeing in the current debate, is those same two priorities playing out.
Continentalism absorption to make sure the 1st power (USA) gets the economic advantage as well as access to natural resources that now lie outside of her legal boundaries.

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198369
01/09/25 01:13 AM
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The talk show in the link below, believes we need to take Trump very serious. We, in Canada, see things on too small a scale, Canada has been working for small settlements to challenges without realizing the cost in the long run, while Trump sees things on a big, ambitious scale. Is the goal to make all surrounding countries dependent vassals and servants of the American beast?
This, to a great extent has been taking place in the past with Canada encouraged to limit their defense department, and dependent on the USA for protection.


Canada needs to stop acting like a vassal and stand up again as a serious country. Well, Trudeau is out, will Canada get a real leader with solid sensible head on him?
How serious is this take over Canada talk?



Question -- how does Canada fit in with prophecy. What would this mean in light of prophecy?


Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198376
01/10/25 08:35 PM
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I hope he is just blowing hot air. I thought the reason he is speaking of Canada as a 51 st was to make his "I'm all that" more "all that" Guy has a huge ego..

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198378
01/11/25 07:54 PM
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We will know more about this soon after January 20, 2025.


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Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198380
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That's interesting hearing about the history. I don't remember that being taught in U.S. schools. I think there are a lot of things in history that could have made things interesting for me rather than what they did require us to memorize. Like I think I got most of the presidents in order on the test, but I don't recall many now and sure didn't know how bad most were that I do know now.

I tend to believe that most of what Trump is saying is much like his talk of the past. Mostly "blowing hot air".

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198389
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Canada is prepared for a response of its own to whatever Trump does, if he actually does anything.


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Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198393
01/20/25 06:15 PM
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I hope Canada is waking up and taking responsibility in our own country again. Trudeau was very bad news for Canada, he did more to lower our status closer to a third world country than any former prime minister ever before him. Hopefully the next prime minister will be more than a puppet to the US and the vatican, and Canada can be a nation in it's own right again!

Trump's address today (January 20) did not sound good for Canada. He was pretty plain he was going to raise tariffs and have lots of money flowing into the USA from other countries.

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198406
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In Revelation 13, the Beast has ten horns with ten crowns on the horns.
From Revelation 17 and on, the Beast has ten horns, but no crowns are mentioned.
Could this indicate a change from the ten kings of Europe to ten global governors of the entire earth?

The Club of Rome and the United Nations have proposed organizing the world into ten divisions. One such division shown on one of their maps has Canada, the USA, and Greenland as one continental group. Is the subsumption of Canada by the US inevitable?

Note: this is not an Adventist page. http://prophecyreviewtoday.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-new-world-order.html


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Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

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Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198407
01/26/25 06:02 PM
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Hi ProdigalOne,
Back in 1973 this UN "project" was already being seriously considered! Part of their plan, as its first phase was to get European countries more unified political and economically. Some of it succeeded, some of it didn't as "they just don't cleave one to another".

Some suggest this present chaos in Europe is just part of the Hegelian concept, the principle of creating the chaos necessary to justify the changes needed for a required end.

The idea was to work on these political, economic blocks as the years went by.
Now we see Trump agitating for the American block, including everything the 1973 plan indicated. Canada, Greenland, (Panama Cannel would also be strategic for America to control. And (though I haven't heard him speak of them) -- most of the Pacific Islands are included.

It's a plot to destroy the sovereignty of individual and independent nations and replace it with an easier to control the world, form of governance .

Prophetic voices link this to Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. .

I still remember years back when people were talking about the tower Babel, assigning the title to the Roman Model. Magazines had pictures of the tower of Babel with UN written on it,


Actually the plan goes back even further to 1942 --
https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/286-the-new-world-order-1942/


The UKRAINE War? Is it part of the plan?
Putin wanting to gather all his nations under his control. But there is still the East vs West schism that has been strengthen, and really doesn't play into the "One World Government" envisioned. Who will be the military might? Putin has spearheaded efforts to challenge the dominance of the West. The political need for the west is to reduce Putin's domain. The west wants the Ukraine in the European Division.

MY Conclusion:
I won't be surprised that they are working on this project. BUT if they actually manage to get 10 divisions, with 10 kings, -- it would start to crumble before it actually took effect -- it might last "for one hour" a brief time. But it will never be the glorious kingdom they are hoping. The media may be singing peace and safety while building their tower, but in that moment certain destruction comes. "

Also, I won't wait till it happens to be ready for Christ's appearing.



Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198409
01/26/25 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Prodigal
The Club of Rome and the United Nations have proposed organizing the world into ten divisions. One such division shown on one of their maps has Canada, the USA, and Greenland as one continental group. Is the subsumption of Canada by the US inevitable?
That plan was all the big news back in the 1970's. Magazines had pictures of the tower of Babel like the one below
United Nations Tower of Babel
Actually the plan dates back even further than that. To 1942. Though the Club of Rome wasn't in place till 1968.

The idea was to get the European nations to prove the success of political and economic integration, this was then to be the model repeated across other world regions.

The idea is to destroy the sovereignty of individual and independent nations,and place power into a very few hands, thus controlling the people, the economy and everything else.


Is Trump working toward that goal? Possibly! He is trying to gather the specified nations under US control.
The war in Ukraine, and it's purpose seems to be part of this as well. Russia is also gathering the specified nations into their jurisdiction. BUT the west sees the Russian division as being too strong and want Ukraine in the European division. There is a "fight" as to who will be top dog!

Looking into this a bit further -- there is spiritualistic connections to the plan.

Will it happen?
I don't know. If it does, it won't last long, just "one hour" which is symbolic of a very short time.
People base it on Rev. 17:12. They will probably TRY. But it won't hold together.

Daniel 2:44 says, in the days of these kings, Christ will come. (Are theten toes symbolic of this?)

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Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198410
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Indeed Dedication, such an arrangement would be short lived. I think the global surge in AI infrastructure is in large part intended to automate and expand population manipulation/cultural engineering and quantum level population monitoring. It may well be one prong of the continental unification push. It does seem that from a prophetic perspective, Canada is destined to become part of the American Union. Whether that occurs now during the Trudeau induced power vacuum or at some later date remains to be seen.


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Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

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Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198605
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This is getting down right scary --
Trump's interview on Fox News concerning Canada

"Here's my problem with Canada," he said at one point. "Canada was meant to be the 51st state,..We don't need their cars. We don't need their lumber . We don't need their energy. We don't need anything....they give us nothing and they are the worst people to negotiate with, of everybody....One of the nastiest countries...if they were a state, think of this, it would be our biggest, most beautiful .. it would be great, this state."

He's on a conquest -- somehow it's history repeating, when one stronger country goes on a conquest against it's neighbors, it does not end well.

First the threats
along with bribes hoping for easy capitulation
Then the vilification
Then oppressive action.



What about this dairy tariff accusation that Canada charges outrages tariffs -- it's not true the way Trump spins it.
Now it is true, Canada does not WANT to be flooded with American dairy products. Canada can and wants to produce most of it's own dairy products. Thus an agreement was made that, USA could sell a certain amount of dairy to Canada, and only if it goes ABOVE that amount would those high tariffs be charged.
Canada was given the right to charge high tariffs on dairy trade that exceed those certain quantities set under North American free trade rules.
From what I've heard, the federal government told Global News that to date, no U.S. dairy products imported by Canada have been subjected to those higher tariffs.


Canada did not start this tariff war.
But when Canada tries to defend itself and retaliates with tariffs, Trump complains as if Canada started it all.
It seems that is a general tactic used -- isn't Russia now accusing Ukraine as starting the war over there? Attack and then blame the attacked as the ones who started it?




From my perspective the 2nd beast of Revelation 13 is starting to speak like a dragon, (no it's not the Sunday law YET, but.... that will come on the wings of chaos)
it won't be long and we'll be going home -- to the REAL golden streets and golden eternal age.
As citizens of the kingdom that is truly great, and will never end, It's King, is the King of kings, Lord of lords, our Savior and Friend.
We can expect chaos in this world, a fruitless striving for an elusive golden age that leaves behind a trail of disaster and ends up being anything but golden, even in countries we thought were more mature than to destroy each other, there is no peace promised here, only trouble. BUT we have a more sure promise, and our hope and trust is in another kingdom, a heavenly kingdom and the great King of love and righteousness and justice, truth, mercy and goodness. Our redemption drawth nigh -- let not your hearts be troubled believe in Christ, He is coming.






Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198606
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Don't know what to say! He was OK in 2016 even tho not a few of us "Yankees" and others world wide knew what he was. I heard his demonic statements back to the 80s and wondered how any could support him.

Til I realized those who support him have his character. Like attracts like and all that. So I have no pity for all those who brought this on all the world. Yeah, myself and others who knew this was wrong, very wrong, will suffer also, but I have no pity for those who brought this on. Because? If it reversed the same people would go back to their vomit and repeat it again.


Sorry, so sorry, Starting to speak like a dragon? lol The text says AND, not THEN. But again it all depends on learning character versus character. We in the U.S. and Canada for that matter stole this land from the American Indians after first demonizing them. We wanted their resources, all their resources. Then we stole land from Mexico. A lot of land. Move on the land then claim it as our own. From France, from 'onde quiera.

Now we're going after Panama, (sheesh how strange that isn't included in this post, not white? therefore unimportant?) and Canada. Ever wonder how the Sunday law could be enforced. Me da risa. And I am white. as white as they come, from the so-called states.

As an FYI did all you all know that Mexico also has United States? ( Of Mexico) Egotistical, aren't we. I'm coming from the perspective of God.

Yes , we will be going home, but God says:

Amos 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.

19 As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.

20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?

Our prayers are not to be self-centered, but to pray that God hold back the winds so that we might be able to reach more people. So let's get out there, get to know our neighbors regardless of what religion, regardless of whether they be LGBTQ+, whoever they might be and let the Holy Spirit live in and through us.

We were told to study prophecy and the prophets, not in order to fortune tell, nor to read the future,

but to search out God's character versus that of Satan, with the Holy Spirit as guide and interpreter. Not listen to pastors or any other self proclaimed authority.

Our choice now.

Matthew 25 sheep and goats. Who goes to heaven, who doesn't, and clearly why.
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Compare with the aid of the Holy Spirit Revelation 3 Laodicea with Revelation 18:4 as to who is really God's people and who listen to His voice.

Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.


Revelation 18:4
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Now I must be about my Father's business.

A Dios, and God bless.


Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?

Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.

Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198607
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Originally Posted by dedication
This is getting down right scary --
Trump's interview on Fox News concerning Canada

"Here's my problem with Canada," he said at one point. "Canada was meant to be the 51st state,..We don't need their cars. We don't need their lumber . We don't need their energy. We don't need anything....they give us nothing and they are the worst people to negotiate with, of everybody....One of the nastiest countries...if they were a state, think of this, it would be our biggest, most beautiful .. it would be great, this state."

He's on a conquest -- somehow it's history repeating, when one stronger country goes on a conquest against it's neighbors, it does not end well.

First the threats
along with bribes hoping for easy capitulation
Then the vilification
Then oppressive action.



What about this dairy tariff accusation that Canada charges outrages tariffs -- it's not true the way Trump spins it.
Now it is true, Canada does not WANT to be flooded with American dairy products. Canada can and wants to produce most of it's own dairy products. Thus an agreement was made that, USA could sell a certain amount of dairy to Canada, and only if it goes ABOVE that amount would those high tariffs be charged.
Canada was given the right to charge high tariffs on dairy trade that exceed those certain quantities set under North American free trade rules.
From what I've heard, the federal government told Global News that to date, no U.S. dairy products imported by Canada have been subjected to those higher tariffs.


Canada did not start this tariff war.
But when Canada tries to defend itself and retaliates with tariffs, Trump complains as if Canada started it all.
It seems that is a general tactic used -- isn't Russia now accusing Ukraine as starting the war over there? Attack and then blame the attacked as the ones who started it?




From my perspective the 2nd beast of Revelation 13 is starting to speak like a dragon, (no it's not the Sunday law YET, but.... that will come on the wings of chaos)
it won't be long and we'll be going home -- to the REAL golden streets and golden eternal age.
As citizens of the kingdom that is truly great, and will never end, It's King, is the King of kings, Lord of lords, our Savior and Friend.
We can expect chaos in this world, a fruitless striving for an elusive golden age that leaves behind a trail of disaster and ends up being anything but golden, even in countries we thought were more mature than to destroy each other, there is no peace promised here, only trouble. BUT we have a more sure promise, and our hope and trust is in another kingdom, a heavenly kingdom and the great King of love and righteousness and justice, truth, mercy and goodness. Our redemption drawth nigh -- let not your hearts be troubled believe in Christ, He is coming.


It sounds like Trump is persuing the American dream of Manifest Destiny with Greenland thrown in for good measure. Everyday, the voice of the Dragon grows louder and more insistent. Let us strive to be among ?them also that love his appearing.? 2 Timothy 4:8


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198609
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It's Trump that versus Canada with the power of the USA presently backing him and the Republican Congress doing nothing about it.

Canada isn't against the people of the USA, but only against what their President Donald Trump is doing with his so-called Executive Powers against Canada along with his annexing and 51st State words.


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I heard a couple of guys a few days ago talking on the radio about how they had thought Trump was just being Trump. But as time goes on, it keeps getting talked up, so they don't know if he's serious or not. But they didn't think it would ever happen. Lots of things would have to happen and change for Canada to become a state.

Keep in mind, U.S. will basically rule the world towards the last.
Maybe this is conditioning.

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As Kland mentioned, "U.S. will basically rule the world towards the last"
Well, it seems Trump is acting like he'd like it to be now.
You are probably right that the world is being conditioned.

Reactions range from surprise, this must be a joke?, to is that even possible? to he really thinks it would be a good idea?

Yes, people are being conditioned to look more seriously at the USA as leading the world with a stronger hand.
At this point resistance is still high -- but propaganda and biased news can change that.

Trump has his fingers in just about every country! He's going to settle the issues between Putin and the Ukraine, he's going to take over Gaza and turn it into a golden resort, He's going to take Greenland, and the Panama, and rename land and seas, deal with China, force various countries to take all the people he wants deported. etc. etc.




And yes, always need to remember, God is our refuge and strength and hope, and that news needs to go out to everyone.

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Originally Posted by Daryl
It's Trump that versus Canada with the power of the USA presently backing him and the Republican Congress doing nothing about it.

Canada isn't against the people of the USA, but only against what their President Donald Trump is doing with his so-called Executive Powers against Canada along with his annexing and 51st State words.


He is only doing what we as Adventist know will come and was prepared by the evil of the prior administration. It so aroused the people to the extreme and swung the pendulum to the right so far that they would have voted for even worse if the candidate had promised a return to 'Christian Values', and we know one of those will be forced worship of a day by law which will soon come..

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First I'd like to apologize to you good people of Canada. We always cheer at my house when the Canadian government strikes back.
Second, something is amiss. I often thought that the beast power and image would show more of a loving christian face, even though it doesn't have one. Most of the folk I see protesting realize something is wrong, and i figured that along would come a charismatic leader. I cannot imagine anyone especially a pope, condoning any of this or being in fear of any of this. Recall it is supposed to be deceptive. This administration is not deceptive. Almost everyone in the free world thinks he's off.
The serpent is far more subtle than this. This is blatant. We are warned over and over about this in the Bible.Why warn if it is so obvious?
I'm not there.

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198622
03/23/25 12:17 AM
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You may be right, TheophilusOne -- Trump seems to be going way overboard in many respects.
He thinks he can put tariffs on other countries, but gets really upset when other countries place tariffs on him in retaliation.

Now Trump is condemning Europe! On his truth page
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"The European Union, one of the most hostile and abusive taxing and tariffing authorities in the World, which was formed for the sole purpose of taking advantage of the United States, has just put a nasty 50% Tariff on Whisky," Trump wrote. "If this Tariff is not removed immediately, the U.S. will shortly place a 200% Tariff on all WINES, CHAMPAGNES, & ALCOHOLIC PRODUCTS COMING OUT OF FRANCE AND OTHER E.U. REPRESENTED COUNTRIES. This will be great for the Wine and Champagne businesses in the U.S."


This is not yet the "great spiritual deception" all this is still building up to it.
What will this tariff war do to the world?
?? chaos ??

What the papacy publicly condones or condemns is deceptive. They have things so organized so they can maneuver things but in the end are able to say "it wasn't us".

Take the case of Hitler, he came on the scene as one who would make Germany great again. He instituted quite a few reforms that seemed morally and economically right and good. Yet many Catholic people, during those early years, saw the signs of danger and were raising voices of warning, but a Reichs konkordat signed July 20,1933 between the soon to be pope Pucelli, and Hitler's natzi party obligated Catholics to be submissive and not get involved in opposing the rising party. Thus Catholic critics and Catholic groups, some of which were quite powerful, fell silent, and Hitler pursued his agenda.
When, in later years the papacy was asked why they didn't do something? The claim was that they were against it, but they were "helpless". Where did the papacy really stand back then, is quite a study in itself. Remember, to spiritually dominate the world is a very real ambition of the papacy. They saw Hitler as a political unifying force which they had hoped would enlarge their own influence. Hitler had the thirst and ambition to control the world, the papacy would ride on his back and spiritually control the world, BUT It rather seriously back fired back then.

The second beast of Revelation, however, is not the papacy, it is not a European nation, it is the USA, which will cause the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast (cause the world to pay homage to the doctrines of the papacy, and grant the papacy the ultimate spiritual power they have long felt was their due), his deadly wound healed.
But first this second beast seeks to get the "earth and them which dwell therein" to yield to his "power". Right now, the nations aren't yet ready to yield.

The USA will do better than Hitler. They will achieve what Hitler only dreamed about. He had advanced air power, but the USA will have miracle working power. First get the world crying for bread and some kind of economic security. (That's what is being disrupted now if this tariff war escalates into serious implementation) When people are desperate they usually seek to align with, and obey any power that offers a tangible solution. And prophecy says the tool the USA will use is economic. Ability to buy and sell.

But maybe the USA president will first bring a brief period of prosperity to the USA. Prophecy also says, "when they cry peace and safety, sudden destruction comes." (1 Thess 5:3) It also says they will be eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, when sudden destruction comes.(Matt. 24:38-39) But maybe all that prosperity and "peace and safety" is already history, and the world is teetering
about to take its last plunge?

Of course there is much we don't know --
There may be more pendulum swings.
But it could all wrap up very quickly as well.
It's all under God's control.

And yes, the most important aspect is to be prepared. And the only real preparation is to first make our own connection with God secure and secondly we need to tell our friends and neighbors and share GOD'S awesome solution.

This gospel shall be preached in all the world and then the end will come.










Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198636
03/26/25 11:33 AM
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It will be interesting to see what actually happens on April 2nd.


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Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198686
04/10/25 07:06 PM
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What happened April 2 and Trump's supposed "liberation day"?


According to CNN
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China?s reciprocal tariff rate will be levied on top of the 20% tariff Trump already imposed, bringing its total tariff rate to a whopping 54%. The United States imported $439 billion worth of goods from China last year, the second top source of imports behind Mexico.

And starting on May 2, the 54% tariff rate will also be applied to packages worth less than $800 coming to the US from China and Hong Kong. This means Americans who order goods from Chinese-based companies like AliExpress, Temu and Shein will have to pay 54% more.

Goods subject to sector-wide tariffs, such as steel and aluminum and, soon, autos, won?t be subjected to additional country-specific reciprocal rates. However, in the case of China, sector tariffs will land on top of the 20% tariff in place before Wednesday?s announcement.

In most cases, Trump said the rates are ?half? the tariff rate that the other countries and trading blocs charge the US when factoring in currency manipulation and other trade barriers. It?s unclear precisely how the administration arrived at those numbers.

Perhaps the source of relief from Wednesday?s tariff announcement was that Trump didn?t go even further than he did. For instance, CNN reported that Trump administration officials were considering imposing a baseline 20% tariff rate for all imports. Trump had also previously said he?d impose 25% tariffs on semiconductors and pharmaceuticals on April 2 on top of reciprocal tariffs.
For the time being, the only exception to tariffs will be goods coming from Canada and Mexico that comply with the United States-Canada-Mexico Agreement signed under Trump?s first term.


Didn't see too much specifically aimed at Canada. There seemed more concern with China.

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198724
04/29/25 11:45 AM
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Have you heard Greenland's next? "A national security issue", is claimed. Which kind of false reasoning is kind of scary, even if it was in jest.

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198725
04/29/25 01:43 PM
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Well Canada just voted in their next Prime Minister to lead Canada's future.
Quite a turn around because just three/four months ago, the liberal party was going down drastically. No one thought people would vote them in again.
So the Liberals ousted the then Prime Minister, and replaced him with a "Banker".

Why or how did Carney win? How did he manage to pull the Liberal party out of disaster and win?

TRUMP
Trump had more to do with this election than anything else.
New Liberal leader, Mark Carney rode into victory on promises to meet the Trump crises.
"Mark Carney wins as Canada's prime minister on anti-Trump platform."

Several months ago, Liberal PM Justin Trudeau announced his resignation as prime minister. A day later, Trump suggested he could use economic force to annex Canada. What better move to get the liberal party back on the political throne -- place a banker in as leader of the liberal party to run for next Prime Minister. And he wins.

Where will all this lead?

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198727
04/30/25 11:40 AM
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Interesting comment appearing in news feed, March 20, 2025

"President Trump told a Fox News host he doesn't care who wins the upcoming Canadian election but added that a Liberal would be "easier" to deal with.
"In an interview with Laura Ingraham, Trump mentioned ,"The Conservative that's running is stupidly no friend of mine," he said in reference to Tory Leader Pierre Poilievre. Trump added that Poilievre has said "negative things" about him but that he "couldn't care less."."
"Trump had previously commented on the Tory leader in a magazine interview in late February, saying he was not a fan of Poilievre because he's "not a MAGA guy," "


What's the connection between Trump's MAGA man and MEGA man gaming series? There seems to be a connection with all the "X" and "Zero" talk.

I'm not into internet gaming, but to me it all seems to fit in with this weeks Sabbath School lesson concerning all the "raging seas" (stirring up the nations) with the ambition of sinful man seeking dominance over the world through turmoil, confusion and fighting

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198735
05/03/25 09:58 AM
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I think Trump just wants to do things that get attention focused on him, and if it gets negative feedback he starts to back away, much like the tariffs..

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198739
05/04/25 01:29 PM
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Trump got what he wanted in this election in Canada -- someone as prime minister who would work with him, this was not just the act of a braggart.
It uses manipulated psychological tactics.
Liberal "Mark Carney wins as Canada's prime minister on anti-Trump platform."
Soon as he's in, Trump steps back a little with his threats and sounds more friendly.
He knew if the liberals won, many in Canada would seek division, west from the east. It would raise the already high tensions between western (especially the central provinces) and eastern (basically Ottawa) Canada. And yes, that tension is at a high level now.
A country divided is easier to conquer.
Now it's just wait and see and pray.
Is Carney actually interested in building up Canada, and bring internal unity? Canada stands at a crises.

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198757
05/09/25 08:48 PM
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I would tend to agree with that assessment as what's happening so far..

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I dont think he got what he wanted.
I think trumps number one fan is trump. And everyone else is supposed to go along with him. and he gets all side of worked up if you dont. He wanted to test the waters with the new PM, and brought up that ridiculous 51 state. I am sure he was livid when he found out it was a no go with this guy too.
He is supposed to be able to do things others wouldnt dream of doing, like knocking the constitution, sending folk away without due process, coming up with stuff to try to prove he is right (like the MS13 photoshop--he'll get mad if you say it is.He has a busload of lackeys) and these are supposed to be good Christian people when I've never seen so much hate out of a group of folk in my life. The things that guy gets away with are shocking.

I know about the papacy in the last days, and was afraid when I found out he was an american, and trump was praising him. and then when I found out that Pope Leo had said some things about the way the trump admin was, and that he had served 20 years as a missionary in Peru and had a kind spot for immigrants, I was ROFL, because it was making trump and maga upset.

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198761
05/10/25 02:03 AM
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TheophilusOne wrote - "He (Trump) wanted to test the waters with the new PM, and brought up that ridiculous 51 state. I am sure he was livid when he found out it was a no go with this guy too."

Actually, no, he wasn't "livid" he was very much in a matter of fact attitude and relaxed tone of voice "time will tell", he says, "never say never".


TRUMP AND CARNEY and 51 state talk

Trump: you know, as a real estate developer, you know, I?m a real estate developer at heart, when you get rid of that artificially drawn line ? somebody drew that line many years ago...when it?s together... when I looked at that, I said, that?s the way it was meant to be. I do feel it?s much better for Canada. But we?re not going to be discussing that unless someone wants to discuss it.

Carney:
As you know from real estate, there are some places that are never for sale. ... And having met with the owners of Canada over the course of the campaign, last several months, it?s not for sale. Won?t be for sale, ever.

Trump: Time will tell. It?s only time. But I say never say never. I?ve had many, many things that were not doable, and they ended up being doable and only doable in a very friendly way. But if it?s to everybody?s benefit, you know, Canada loves us and we love Canada, that?s, I think the No. 1 thing that?s important, but we?ll see. Over time, we?ll see what happens.

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I have not heard much of anything from my fellow Americans that suggests they are interested in making Canada the 51st state. There seems to be a profound lack of interest as far as I can see. I had myself thought in the past that if they wished to join with us, that would be fine with me. But I always felt it should be something that they want and push for rather than it being pushed by an American president. And if they did not wish to join us, that is fine too. That there seems to be a lack of interest on the part of Americans probably means they either are totally disinterested or else they think rather like I do, that if the Canadians want to do that, its up to them. I am not wanting to be pushing them to do this. I am very surprised that Trump is pushing this and I have to wonder if Canadians are a bit insulted by it.

Trump often makes wild statements in order to get something that he wants. He will stake out an outlandish position and then when he begins to get what he wants, the outlandish talk tends to quiet down or disappear. So, I rather think that this talk from him is likely to eventually go away. I am hearing a lot less of it these days.

As for his talk about acquiring Greenland, that concerns me more because he even hinted at military action to take it. I do not think the people of this country would support him on that and I tend to think this is again another one of his tactics to get something he wants. But military action threats should never be entirely blown off as if they are nothing. I do know that Greenland has valuable rare earth metals that he would rather the USA be getting at them instead of China, and that is what is driving much of this. I would far rather this be settled with an agreement with Denmark rather than something more serious. I rather think he is likely to be wiling to settle for something less in the long run so that this ends quietly and peacefully.


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Originally Posted by Wendell Slattery
Trump often makes wild statements in order to get something that he wants. He will stake out an outlandish position and then when he begins to get what he wants, the outlandish talk tends to quiet down or disappear. So, I rather think that this talk from him is likely to eventually go away. I am hearing a lot less of it these days.
Yep, that's his practice. Typical is, you want tariffs, I'll show you tariffs!

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