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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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12/20/24 01:53 PM
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Saying it COULD happen within the next three years, is not the same as saying it WILL.
I understood Veith as saying that for the most, too. Though I'm kind of wondering why did you extract that statement without leaving it in context with the very next sentence that followed it, explaining that the timing was in God's hands, we don't know the when, we just know it will and we need to be prepared watching and praying.
And Veith said in many of his videos referring to such time the same as you did: Not definite, but COULD happen, is interesting. I just think some are criticizing Veith for that much in the same way as some are criticizing Vine.
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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12/21/24 02:30 AM
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And Veith said in many of his videos referring to such time the same as you did: Not definite, but COULD happen, is interesting.
I just think some are criticizing Veith for that much in the same way as some are criticizing Vine. I agree! Veith did not set a date, and those who who respect and appreciate his research and insights did not see it as date setting. Yet he focused that one study on a specific year enough to give his antagonists something to jump on him and by expanding on what he said, and assuming more than what he said, try to discredit his ministry. It is the same as the issue with Vine -- people look for a hook to rope and throw these speakers. They found a hook in a short paragraph in Vine's speech, and pushed it to it's limits, context and reason as to why it was said, not really considered. The swiftness to discredit him was astounding. And now even the pastor of the Village church! I guess that's human nature, people want "all is well" sermons, not sermons like Veith and Vine often preach. Even Jesus, who was preaching unadulterated truth suffered from the same antagonistic tactics. Jewish leaders were constantly listening to Jesus, not to learn, but to find a hook so they could condemn him. The hook they found and used, was Jesus statement "destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up again."
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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12/24/24 01:37 PM
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Could it be providential that the NAD is embarking on Pentecost 2025 at a time when time may be running out?
I hear that more people are now open to hearing and heeding the warning more than any other time.
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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12/25/24 02:14 AM
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Yes, events in the past five years has awakened people, and there are many searching for answers. It is time to witness -the endtime message is a very timely message of truth, that has eternal results which people need. The harvest is ripe but the laborers are few.
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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01/20/25 11:22 AM
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We are in the last TIMES AND SEASONS! Watch this timely message -- a sermon by Dan Vis The Times and SeasonsI have finished watching it. After the first portion I was thinking, who is this guy, I need to see if he has other sermons. But then he got on this AI stuff. I think he makes too much ado about AI. I see it as just a well written computer program. In fact, everything Dan Vis was talking about, google could tell you years if not decades ago. He puts to much credence about AI monitoring your eyes as you look at web pages. I might have misunderstood him, but I disagree with what he's suggesting. Now if he were to go back and replace all occurrences of "AI" with "google", I would mostly agree with him. Or with "microsoft". Or with "facebook". If anyone is interested in how much google is monitoring your lives, and has been for decades, check your browser. Of course, if you're using a google browser, you are already pwned. But if using firefox thinking you're avoiding google, do this: In address bar, type about:config. Then in the preferences filter field, search for "google". See how many things about google are either active or not active. Surprised? You should be shocked! That's why I use a firefox derivative with google mostly turned off, go in and ban (or "cancel"!) everything else about google, and use uBlock to block google third party spying. And yeah, I'm sure google knows quite a bit on me, but not nearly as much as they do on others. Google is stalking you! And getting sites like maritime-sda-online.com to allow them to monitor you. Seems like I talked about this in the past. If you use gmail, you are tracked specifically. They know who your friends are, they know what your IP address is, and if you don't block the third party google spying, they know what websites you look at, when you look at them, for how long, and the sequence of sites you look at. Not using gmail and not using chrome, they know a little less and just know the sites you go to. Block google, and some sites won't work properly, but they know much less.
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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01/20/25 05:09 PM
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Kland-- on the tracking issue -- I agree. They have so many tracking methods, that there is really "no place to hide" anymore. Except one: Psalms 119:114 Thou [LORD} are my hiding place and my shield: I hope in thy word. Though I do believe AI is taking things to the next level, not only in tracking but in deceiving, a person can't be sure as to what's real and what is AI anymore.
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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I say too much emphasis on AI. Early on, scammers would pop up a message saying you need to do such and such with your computer. Quite obvious it was a scam - a least for those in the know. But then they got so good you couldn't tell if it was a windows window or the scammer popup window and you weren't really sure. Then there's the fake pictures. I think one was on here, I think it was of Obama saluting with his wrong hand. A more simple thing of mirrored image. But some "artists" are really good and it's hard to tell. AI is just computerized, or say programmatically done, so they can do it faster. And like said before, google was tracking you long ago. AI is just more of the same. And probably came from google. Just an updated version.
Look at the SpaceX booster landing. That's incredible. It just gently guided to the launch holder, settled in ever so softly. Amazing. I doubt AI was involved, but only well written computer programs that have advanced quite much.
Instead of making such a big deal of the term, "AI", look instead, of how much technology has advanced and that it is now quite a sophisticated tool, a "knife". Look instead, in whose hands this tool will be used, either for good or evil.
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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01/24/25 12:29 AM
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Sure, everything is advancing into incredible abilities we never even dreamed were possible 50 years ago. Include the technology behind AI. And yes, advances, even if there are good results along the way, are usually seized upon by evil to advance their agenda. I personally think you are underestimating what is happening with AI, but I'm happy to leave everyone to their own opinion on the matter as all that technology is beyond my understanding. What I see is that yes, at this point AI is still under control of humans programing the "tool", but there have been strange things happening when AI intelligence took control over and above what the programmers had in mind. But everyone to their own conclusions.
AI was only one "evidence" in a much larger picture that we are plunging headlong into the last day crises described by the prophets. There's the whole massive swing in the political realm. For me that's big, as I've always said a big backlash would come before the end. Most people weren't that sure religionists would ever gain the upper hand, they were thinking the world would just drowned in an immoral and violent cesspool. But now we hear the thunderings of the backlash! Though God can still hold it back, the evidence is all around that we are on the tipping edge. The question on people's minds, "Are we there?" Are we on the closing edge, just waiting for it to tip us into the last crises before Christ comes?
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