I too agree that at this point it is not an invasion of privacy. This is a wonderful use of technology to keep track of inventory, etc. Just wonderful. There will come a time when the price is more afordable and read range of these RFID or something else will make it possible for them to do anything with them. Nothing is impossable. Will I NOT buy a product if it is marked that a RFID is implanted in it? Well if I NEEDED it and it was the cheapest...YES I would buy it. But if I did not need it or if it was higher price than something else NO.

I love technology....I think it is just wonderful what inventions, especially with computers, etc., has come up with these days.

I also believe that the new technolgy could be used against us in the end. Am I scared? NOPE. My trust and faith are in God. Whatever happenes we will always be in HIS HANDS. We have nothing to FEAR. Amen. God is wonderful.

Avalee, Why then did you draw our attention to this technology in the "End Time Events" forum in such a way as to evoke alarm or concern and specifically agree with Daryl on the privacy issue? In the end of time, of what significance will it be for anyone to know and track what we buy in stores as the last great spiritual battle draws to a climax? And for that matter, how will technology play a role in the great and final spiritual controversy of the ages? What exactly is your point in all this?

Given that the bar codes on products currently serve the very same purpose as what this RFID technology will serve, do you view products with bar codes in the same way when you go into a store? (I recall some of the same kind of end time hysteria over bar codes when they were first being introduced.)

Tom

We do not know what the end of this technology will be do we? Only God knows. There is no need to fear. Trust in God and He will save you.

I have moved this topic to another area of the forum as it seems to not be in the right place. This topic is just a matter of interest in technology.

We put our trust in God and there is nothing to be alarmed about. I am so very sorry if those reading this got the idea about being alarmed in some way. Even if this technolgy could be used to invade our privacy there is not reason for God's children to be alarmed is there? I pray you will feel better and not be alarmed about things coming upon the world. Remember God will take care of us if we are faithful. Amen

[ June 27, 2003, 04:50 PM: Message edited by: Avalee ]

The notion that this is no different from a clerk noticing what you buy and your preferences so he/she can help you better next time. Makes me think of the subway shop I go to - the proprietor takes pride in knowing what her customers order and likes to tell me what I want before I order.

It only makes me order something different just for spite. Sometimes they are too pushy that way.

David,

The portion that I quoted is obviously referring to RFID.

Check the site out for yourself and read it in its context.

The word "Intelligent" was what caught my attention.

Also, time will tell about how else RFID could be used, however, they of course wouldn't tell us about those type of usage.

I caught a news item on this on CNN which interestingly enough presented the same concern about where this technology could lead to in the area of invasion of privacy sometime in the not too distant future.

If I remember correctly, it is in the site that Avalee provided which would be the last one on the bottom of hyer opening post to this topic.

Also, if CNN is concerned, and they are not even looking at it in the same we that we would be looking at it, then we should also be concerned about the future implications of this and other technological advances.

Thanks daryl

Can you tell us tho exactly what CNN stated besides the general summary/statement you shared with us?

Also, do we need to be concerned about something, just because CNN is? Is the news really the news?

I think we are going against inspired counsel which tells us not to bring upon ourselves a time of trouble, before it actually gets here; when we try to stretch the available information re RFID technology into a mysterious, ethereal endtimes scenario.

Your above post reveals your concern re Intelligent Transportation System technology, and how RFID, via the ITS technology will be used to invade our privacy. Your concern seems based on incomplete information at best.

The ITS is something that has already been in use for years; and it has progressed to the point of becoming a multi-jurisdictional tool by which traffic light controls can be achieved! This has absolutely NO CONNECTION to anything that is "an invasion of privacy," or anything that could lead to it.

I don't see any credible documentation of the claims re the privacy invasion you are making. I spent over half an hour searching for the info you referred me to on the sites provided in Avalee's first post, and I don't see it anywhere.

Traffic light control technology, using RFID, is in use in many major US cities; such as Las Angeles; and I would challenge anyone to show us clearly how this does, or could in the future, be used as some sort of grandiose, end time invasion of our privacy???

Avalee makes the claim that "we know that in the end none of us will have any privacy;" and I would also like to ask where that is found in the Bible, or in Ellen White's writings.

[ July 07, 2003, 04:42 AM: Message edited by: DavidTBattler ]