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The Unpreached sermon. #20648
12/29/05 01:15 PM
12/29/05 01:15 PM
Darius  Offline OP
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Hundreds of thousands of sermons will be preached this coming weekend as Christians welcome in the New Year. I do not know what the preachers will use for a sermonic idea but I do know that none will begin with the following quote, or anything remotely similar: "Brethren, that meeting we had last night on the sea of glass was AWESOME!"

Darius

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20649
12/31/05 02:55 PM
12/31/05 02:55 PM
DebbieB  Offline
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What a great day it will be when we do get there!

Let's pray and 'work out our own salvation with fear and trembling' and get there to hear that sermon on the Sea of Glass!

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20650
01/01/06 11:28 AM
01/01/06 11:28 AM
Darius  Offline OP
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Debbie, nothing is happening today that is different from before. It is madness to continue doing the same thing while expecting a different result. At this rate people will have reason to doubt that Christians are the result of any intelligent design.

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20651
01/02/06 03:17 AM
01/02/06 03:17 AM
Mountain Man  Offline
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Darius, I would like to take this opportunity to agree with you, which, as you know, is uncommon. I believe there are no reasons for any of us to expect this year to yield results different from last year, that is, so far as the return of Jesus is concerned. Many observations could be cited to support this dismal outlook, but the one that I believe is mostly to blame is this - The majority of Adventists have erroneous views regarding the 3AMs. Until we get it right we cannot warn or enlighten the world and, as such, Jesus will not be able to return.

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20652
01/02/06 03:50 AM
01/02/06 03:50 AM
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Quote: posted by Darius
At this rate people will have reason to doubt that Christians are the result of any intelligent design.


Darius, I hope you don’t mind if I quote that statement on other bbs.

As a “remnant” I think we have a lot to clean up in our own house before we can enlighten others. We’re becoming like the old Jewish adage, “ask two Jews a question and you’ll get three different answers.” We are becoming a diversity of beliefs.

But what I find disheartening, at least from my perspective, is that we’re all such “truth” mongers that I fear we’ve become more sounding brass and tinkling cymbals than light and salt. Do we care more that our brothers and sisters believe the exact “right” thing about say the investigative judgment than we care if they’re clothed, fed, and housed? Surely the former is important but never at the expense of the latter. Maybe my vantage point doesn’t reflect the true state of things but it seems we’ve become a splintered congregation where each fragment clubs the other with EW quotes to prove the necessity of its existence—or denies her relevance at all.

But is there compassion in individual Adventism anymore transcending beyond the feel-good reports from our conference magazines?

Jeff
Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20653
01/01/06 04:17 PM
01/01/06 04:17 PM
Darius  Offline OP
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MM, you will be pleased to know that all my "divergent" views came to light when it became obvious that the church was completely unproductive in society. The only task which it had been given lay untouched while we do things that other agencies can do, and sometimes better than we can. At this point the church is simply a black hole into which the hard-earned money of its members disappear.

Jeff, all I ask is that you give me credit. (I work hard to come up with these words of wisdom.) Just this morning I opined why it is so difficult to get the church to change. We have bought into a dualistic view of reality so that if we are doing X and someone says that our primary task is to do Y we argue from the standpoint that this would require us to stop doing X. At that point, we lose sight of our mission because it becomes an argument over whether we should stop doing good. The world would benefit if we realize that paying attention to X does not require us to stop doing Y.

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20654
01/01/06 07:44 PM
01/01/06 07:44 PM
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vastergotland  Offline
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The first step of change is the realisation that change is needed. The secound ought to be to find out what the appropriate change would be. More and more people seem to realise the first, what the secound must be is a bit harder and thats where the 3 oppinions for every 2 persons are.

/Thomas

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20655
01/01/06 07:52 PM
01/01/06 07:52 PM
Darius  Offline OP
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Muncie, IN
Vaster, it is proving difficult for the first step to be taken. Most have taken solace in the fact that they can blame God for the delay by simply saying repeatedly, "God will come when He is ready." It is an insidious slur on the character of the Creator but it sounds worthy of an Amen.

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20656
01/02/06 12:31 AM
01/02/06 12:31 AM
Mountain Man  Offline
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Indeed, getting the 3AMs right is important. Taking care of our fellow beings is important, too. Jesus said we shall always have the needy to care for, and we as a church should see to it. However, if we can finish the gospel commission sooner than later, then the problem of taking care of the needy will take care of itself.

Revelation
21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20657
01/02/06 11:31 AM
01/02/06 11:31 AM
Darius  Offline OP
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Posts: 1,163
Muncie, IN
MM, this is not the way to solve a problem. Your conclusions amounts to nothing more than a guess. It may be correct but it is still just a guess. You have shown no evidence why your conclusion is correct. If we are serious about the future of this earth we need to rationally analyse the problem to identify where we went wrong.

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