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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? #69628
04/25/05 06:23 PM
04/25/05 06:23 PM
Davros  Offline
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It was on a unofficial Adventist pro women's ordonation site.

The problem with the manuscripts is that we do not have the orrigonals of the NT. The jews have very carfuly kept the OT, but have little interest in the NT, so it has been lost. All we have are scribes writings of them now, so determining their origonal date would be difficult.

Fortunatly, I contacted the GC about this topic and was told that it is not the view officaly held by the church. The rest of the content then went on to say how what the Bible says is not always what it means, but at least we believe that they were not forged.

Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? #69629
04/25/05 09:09 PM
04/25/05 09:09 PM
Will  Offline
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Hi Dave,
You mentioned as part of your communication with the GC the following:
quote:

The rest of the content then went on to say how what the Bible says is not always what it means

2 things come to mind here:
1. Is this meaning that Light is progressive?
2. Do we allow someone else to tell us how to interpret the Bible when it should be line upon line etc.
What are your thoughts on this as I find it rather interesting.
God Bless,
Will

Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? #69630
04/25/05 09:44 PM
04/25/05 09:44 PM
Davros  Offline
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The impression I got from my corrospondence was that truth is progressive - at least in their eyes.

Although new light may make itself evedant from time to time, it is never in contradiction to previus truth. In other words, truth does not change.

Any teaching to the contrary is in contradiction the Bible itself.

Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? #69631
04/27/05 01:38 AM
04/27/05 01:38 AM
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The Bible, as we know it, is nothing more than a historical record created by man, which contains a record of God's interaction with mankind.

If anyone claims that the "entire" Bible was created through "direct inspiration" from God, then I must remind them of how the Biblical canon, as we now have it, came into being.

Question: Who decided what books would be included/excluded in the Biblical canon?

Answer: Man

There is no Biblical reference indicating that the Bible is the "Word of God". The Bible does clearly state that Jesus IS the "Word of God" made flesh.

To "know the Word" is to "know" Jesus. (I do not mean to "know about Jesus" either.)

If you "know the Word" then you will recognize "The Word" when He speaks to you.

"I am the Good Shepherd and My sheep know My voice ...."

Truth is not progressive. It is constant.

But......

Our understanding of truth "is" progressive.

Any individual who claims that they understanding all Truth, is sorely misled.

The Bible does not contain all Truth.

The only way to gain an understanding of Truth is to rely solely upon the "Source of All Truth" who gives understanding to all mankind as He deems neccessary. Again, the only way to understand Truth is to know the "Word of God".....Jesus

Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? #69632
04/27/05 01:42 AM
04/27/05 01:42 AM
Davros  Offline
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THat is a direct contradiction to the Adventist beliefe.

If something was true and God inspierd, it will not become untrue!

Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? #69633
09/14/06 02:14 PM
09/14/06 02:14 PM
Darius  Offline
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Quote:

THat is a direct contradiction to the Adventist beliefe.

If something was true and God inspierd, it will not become untrue!


I don't understand your reasoning. Are you suggesting that Adventist belief is the test of truth? How do you handle Adventist beliefs that have changed over time? Which one would be the test of truth.

Second, are you suggesting that inspiration cancels human fallibility?


Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? #69634
09/15/06 12:10 PM
09/15/06 12:10 PM
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Quote:

The only way to gain an understanding of Truth is to rely solely upon the "Source of All Truth" who gives understanding to all mankind as He deems neccessary. Again, the only way to understand Truth is to know the "Word of God".....Jesus




Amen

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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? #69636
10/04/06 01:43 PM
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Why are so many intent on disregarding the obvious? It is as obvious as the nose on my face that the Creator did not write the Bible nor did He ask anyone to do so. Trying to make Him the author when He is not does not say much for what we think of Him. False representation will always be false representation and you do not try to falsely represent someone you love and care for.

Then after we have falsely concluded that the Creator wrote a book He did not write we make it imperative that individuals try to find out the truth about what the Bible says under the assumption that what the Bible says is what the Creator wants. As a result we blur the lines between what the Creator stands for and what the men who wrote the Bible thought He stands for. The result is confusion, aka Babylon.

Last edited by Darius; 10/04/06 01:47 PM.

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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? #69637
10/04/06 04:20 PM
10/04/06 04:20 PM
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How do you think God communicates with us, Darius?


Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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