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Re: "We Have No Sin" [Re: Tom] #97358
03/27/08 04:43 AM
03/27/08 04:43 AM
asygo  Offline OP
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 Originally Posted By: Tom Ewall
Knowing God's love means the same thing as knowing God, right?


Right.


By God's grace,
Arnold

There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
Re: "We Have No Sin" [Re: asygo] #97364
03/27/08 12:43 PM
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God is love is not the same thing as love is God. Love is an active principle in the hearts of those who obey Jesus - but love is not a god. Love is an attribute of God. Perhaps it is more accurate to say - God is loving.

Also, do we agree it was natural for A&E to fear Jesus before they learned of His plan to save and redeem them? To sin, wherever found, our God is a consuming fire.

Re: "We Have No Sin" [Re: Mountain Man] #97394
03/28/08 01:18 AM
03/28/08 01:18 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
God is love is not the same thing as love is God. Love is an active principle in the hearts of those who obey Jesus - but love is not a god. Love is an attribute of God. Perhaps it is more accurate to say - God is loving.

I think that's just semantics. Bottom line: Know God, know love; no God, no love.

 Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
Also, do we agree it was natural for A&E to fear Jesus before they learned of His plan to save and redeem them? To sin, wherever found, our God is a consuming fire.

I agree.


By God's grace,
Arnold

There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
Re: "We Have No Sin" [Re: Mountain Man] #97405
03/28/08 08:03 PM
03/28/08 08:03 PM
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Mountain Man typed the following:

"No one can claim to be without sin. All have sinned. No one can claim to have never sinned."

I have NEVER sinned. I'm saying it, I'm typing it, and I'm telling you all, I've never sinned.

Now, clearly you are wrong in your statement. You MIGHT have meant that no one PROVE they have not sinned, or something like that, but alas, I can CLEARLY claim to have not sinned, as well I claim to have jumped the grand canyon on a go kart. Oh, and I also can leap tall buildings in a single bound, and bend metal with my teeth, and a whole bunch of other stuff you might not believe, but I promise, I can in fact claim anything I want.

Re: "We Have No Sin" [Re: Ted_Farmer] #97410
03/28/08 10:40 PM
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Ted, what was your goal with your last post? And did this post achieve its intended goal?


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: "We Have No Sin" [Re: vastergotland] #97432
03/29/08 01:44 PM
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Ted, surely you must agree no one can claim, in light of what God said about it, to have never sinned. God said, "All have sinned." To claim otherwise is to say God is a liar. Can I or you "prove" God is not a liar?

Re: "We Have No Sin" [Re: Mountain Man] #97442
03/29/08 04:25 PM
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Dear Mountain Man,

Surely you must agree that I've already said (typed, but I said it out loud in my house when typing the previous post) that I have NEVER sinned, not once. I have never, ever, ever sinned, not in light of what anybody, anything, or otherwise might have or have not said. I did NOT call anybody a liar. Re-read my last post and tell me where I SAID (typed, wrote, spoke out loud) that anybody was a liar?????????????

Well, I'll go ahead and fill you in on that one. I didn't. I'm not saying anything other than I've never sinned, not ever, not even now. I can "claim", "say", or otherwise convey any piece of information that I so choose, you see me doing it now don't you. So, I can in fact "claim" (type, write, speak, e-mail, text, scribble, use hyroglyphics, or otherwise convey) to have never sinned.

If god said "all have sinned" those are his words, not mine. My words are as follows (and yes, you may quote me on this)

"I, Ted Farmer, being of sound mind and body, do hereby solemnly swear, before all of you reading this, and with hand upon the holy bible, I have never sinned"

So once again, I've said it, I've claimed it, and PROVEN it to you and all reading this, that I (or anybody else for that matter) can "claim" to have never sinned. That's all I'm saying. I'd appreciate it if you would kindly refrain from "implying" that I'm calling god a liar. I know you didn't directly "say" I'm calling god a liar, but you did infact "imply" that's what I did.

I don't know what you can prove; as far as god being a liar, I made no claim to such a statment (re-read my last post for clarification on this one).


Happy Sabbath!

Re: "We Have No Sin" [Re: Ted_Farmer] #97443
03/29/08 04:30 PM
03/29/08 04:30 PM
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Dear västergötland,

My goal was to prove that you CAN infact "claim" to be sinless.

"No one can claim to be without sin. All have sinned. No one can claim to have never sinned."

And infact, I have proven my point. My point was NOT a lot of other things. My ONLY point was to show you CAN "claim" to have not sinned (as well as anything else, it's easy try it at home with family and friends, it makes a great game for children too).

Yes, it did achieve it's goal, thanks for asking.

Happy Sabbath!

Re: "We Have No Sin" [Re: Ted_Farmer] #97467
03/30/08 12:18 AM
03/30/08 12:18 AM
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Seems like a rather trivial point to make. Obviously the poster meant that one cannot validly claim to be without sin. The word "claim" has an implicit assumption of validity built into it, so it seems to me the poster wasn't really off in what he wrote. At any rate, it was clear what his intent was.


Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
Re: "We Have No Sin" [Re: Tom] #97469
03/30/08 12:45 AM
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Dear Mr. Ewall,

Thanks for trivializing my point, and marginalizing me as a person. And yes, it may seem to YOU to be trivial, but alas, you are taking that "assumption", where I took the literal meaning of the words written. Maybe that is a prime example of how you have come to know the word of the lord?

I clearly did not read any "assumption of validity" into the words written. I was trying to take Mountain Man at his word, not trying to "read" into them, or make them right for my point of view.

Words only have the meaning that we give them.

To me it's obvious that your response was rather pompus, but then I should think everybody would know that via the words you wrote. Is that something I should point out, or let people read your words on their own? It's kind of like the bible. We all read into it what we want to.

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