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Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama!
[Re: The Wanderer]
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04/26/20 04:37 AM
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I am confident that you did not watch the video that I posted. If you had, you would have seen that it contained a video of Prime Minister Andrew Holness outlining his plan for the removal of weekday lockdown restrictions in favour of a one day a week lockdown on every Sunday! It is also interesting to note that Prime Minister Andrew Holness video address was given in April 2020! I notice that your posted link rebuttal is dated November 2014, almost six years ago. You really should do more research, before calling men of God "crackpots"...
"These men of God" as you call them are full of hot air when they say the kind of religious incantations and insults to God and His church that they are parroting from Satan, their filthy "message." in this video. Again, the crack pot doctrines and accusers come out. Even in this article, posted just the other day, that does talk about Sunday-related legislation, where the Jamaican Trade Unions are pushing it, there is nothing about "Sunday Laws!!" In fact those unions have been pushing for this for 20 years! He said the Labour Contract Act also provides for a full day of rest, preferably Sunday and that the Protection Employment Act ?states in part that there is no misconduct if one?s absence on Saturday or Sunday is for relious worship Fear-Mongers purporting to be Adventists use articles like this to try and say something thats not true. I highly doubt, going by your posts here that you have the faintest idea on what "the sunday question" even is. As long as we blindly accept this kind of crack-pot theology we will suffer under their feigned concern for "truth" just like anyone who is a slave would suffer. I am not certain exactly whom you are referring to as "them" and "they"? The video I have posted is by one man. And, "incantations"? I am afraid, you have completely lost me? Again, I will point out that my source for enforced Sunday lockdown is the Seventh Day Adventist Prime Minister of Jamaica, himself, publicly on camera announcing his plan in April 2020. Your links to past legislation are irrelevant. Your attempt to derail the discussion by questioning my knowledge and manipulating me into a lengthy explanation of "the Sunday question" reeks of the Jesuitical strategy of divert and tire. You have only succeeded in revealing yourself. Furthermore, your rapid decent into ad hominem attacks is a sure symptom of no cogent argument. Since, you have nothing reasonable to contribute, and you are reacting with personal animosity and anger, I will no longer be responding to your posts. That is not why I am here. What I believe to be true has been placed before you. Accept it or not as you see fit. Please, let us all try to remember that this is a Christian site and conduct ourselves accordingly.
"...I will not forget you. Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama!
[Re: ProdigalOne]
#192353
04/26/20 11:37 AM
04/26/20 11:37 AM
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"These men of God" as you call them are full of hot air when they say the kind of religious incantations and insults to God and His church that they are parroting from Satan, their filthy "message." in this video. Again, the crack pot doctrines and accusers come out. Even in this article, posted just the other day, that does talk about Sunday-related legislation, where the Jamaican Trade Unions are pushing it, there is nothing about "Sunday Laws!!" In fact those unions have been pushing for this for 20 years! He said the Labour Contract Act also provides for a full day of rest, preferably Sunday and that the Protection Employment Act ?states in part that there is no misconduct if one?s absence on Saturday or Sunday is for relious worship Fear-Mongers purporting to be Adventists use articles like this to try and say something thats not true. I highly doubt, going by your posts here that you have the faintest idea on what "the sunday question" even is. As long as we blindly accept this kind of crack-pot theology we will suffer under their feigned concern for "truth" just like anyone who is a slave would suffer. I am not certain exactly whom you are referring to as "them" and "they"? The video I have posted is by one man. And, "incantations"? I am afraid, you have completely lost me? Again, I will point out that my source for enforced Sunday lockdown is the Seventh Day Adventist Prime Minister of Jamaica, himself, publicly on camera announcing his plan in April 2020. Your links to past legislation are irrelevant. Your attempt to derail the discussion by questioning my knowledge and manipulating me into a lengthy explanation of "the Sunday question" reeks of the Jesuitical strategy of divert and tire. You have only succeeded in revealing yourself. Furthermore, your rapid decent into ad hominem attacks is a sure symptom of no cogent argument. Since, you have nothing reasonable to contribute, and you are reacting with personal animosity and anger, I will no longer be responding to your posts. That is not why I am here. What I believe to be true has been placed before you. Accept it or not as you see fit. Please, let us all try to remember that this is a Christian site and conduct ourselves accordingly.
I have explained very well above who I am talking about. Its your choice to make it personal and accuse me of not being Christian, or any of the other things in your list.. I really dont care what you think. IF this is a Christian site, then it needs a lot of cleaning up. Posting false claims about "Sunday" is simply turning this site into a religious zoo. And embellishing your so called "Christian response" to me by calling me "Jesuit" puts you right square where you claim me to be. It says more about you than me. IF you are sporting truth here, you would not do this to others who question or criticize. Please, let us all try to remember that this is a Christian site and conduct ourselves accordingly.
"The worst foes of my spiritual life have never been hostile circumstance." "There is always a little bit of light" (Micah 7:8) https://www.lightintheclouds.net/wordSincerely, IN Christ; and THROUGH The Spirit - The Wanderer
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Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama!
[Re: ProdigalOne]
#192354
04/27/20 03:55 AM
04/27/20 03:55 AM
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Please, let's communicate in a kinder manner.
No one thinks the FINAL Sunday law has been passed, the discussions concern a shift that the Covid-19 situation has created which is creating a favorable desire for Sunday legislation.
How do you think Sunday will become a universal day of rest? Remember, "silently it is growing" in little steps, disguised as a good for family, good for climate and environment, good for avoiding disease" etc. etc. How else do you think a world where the majority aren't Sunday keepers would accept Sunday being THE day of rest? How will the United States and the Catholic Church impose the holiness of Sunday on billions of devout Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Pagans, as well as on Communists and atheists?
A Plan -- First comes a more secular "gathering" the people into Sunday in little steps. Getting them to "appreciate" Sunday for whatever reason. (good for family, good for climate and environment, good for avoiding disease" etc. etc. ) BUILD IT ON CRISES. Soon something will cause the noose to tighten -- and yes it will become a religious issue. That hasn't happened yet (though we hear more people pushing for it) .
ANY type of Sunday law is a step against our freedom. The only safe and consistent position in relation to Sunday laws is uncompromising opposition to every form of Sunday law that may be invented. Adventist pioneers stood up against renewing of "blue laws".
And yes, even though "temporary" and "local" both Quebec and Jamaica have stepped back over into a "type of Sunday law" arbitrarily legislating that all (except a couple essential) stores close EVERY SUNDAY for the duration of Covid-19 and people can rest.
Quoting FORMER "days of operation" for stores and businesses, documents only adds emphases that THINGS have changed.
To say it's all "crack pot" is like telling a person who mentions in March that it's getting warmer and summer is coming, that they are all wrong because summer hasn't come yet. They know summer hasn't come yet -- BUT they see conditions are ripening, snow is melting and summer will soon come.
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Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama!
[Re: ProdigalOne]
#193346
12/12/20 09:24 AM
12/12/20 09:24 AM
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Please, let's communicate in a kinder manner.
No one thinks the FINAL Sunday law has been passed, the discussions concern a shift that the Covid-19 situation has created which is creating a favorable desire for Sunday legislation.
How do you think Sunday will become a universal day of rest? Remember, "silently it is growing" in little steps, disguised as a good for family, good for climate and environment, good for avoiding disease" etc. etc. How else do you think a world where the majority aren't Sunday keepers would accept Sunday being THE day of rest? How will the United States and the Catholic Church impose the holiness of Sunday on billions of devout Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Pagans, as well as on Communists and atheists?
A Plan -- First comes a more secular "gathering" the people into Sunday in little steps. Getting them to "appreciate" Sunday for whatever reason. (good for family, good for climate and environment, good for avoiding disease" etc. etc. ) BUILD IT ON CRISES. Soon something will cause the noose to tighten -- and yes it will become a religious issue. That hasn't happened yet (though we hear more people pushing for it) .
ANY type of Sunday law is a step against our freedom. The only safe and consistent position in relation to Sunday laws is uncompromising opposition to every form of Sunday law that may be invented. Adventist pioneers stood up against renewing of "blue laws".
And yes, even though "temporary" and "local" both Quebec and Jamaica have stepped back over into a "type of Sunday law" arbitrarily legislating that all (except a couple essential) stores close EVERY SUNDAY for the duration of Covid-19 and people can rest.
Quoting FORMER "days of operation" for stores and businesses, documents only adds emphases that THINGS have changed.
To say it's all "crack pot" is like telling a person who mentions in March that it's getting warmer and summer is coming, that they are all wrong because summer hasn't come yet. They know summer hasn't come yet -- BUT they see conditions are ripening, snow is melting and summer will soon come. We are seeing everything being prepared for it, its clearly being put together by a alliance of forces including those supporting a lesser 'carbon footprint, and 'social justice' and advancement of issues such as LBTQ, etc...
Last edited by Rick H; 12/12/20 09:25 AM.
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