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Re: Lesson #4 (4th Quarter 2011): Justification by Faith Alone
[Re: asygo]
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10/28/11 11:36 PM
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M: It is true, though, we can never "equal the pattern", however, we can and must, by the grace of God, imitate the character Jesus.
A: Yes, we imitate Jesus, but never equal the Pattern. Can the requirements of God's Law be fulfilled by anything less than Christ's perfect Pattern? He obeyed God completely, all the time. Will the law be satisfied by anything less than complete, constant obedience? Yes, law and justice is perfectly satisfied with the fruit of born-again believers who are abiding in Jesus and partaking of the divine nature. "Holiness finds that it has nothing more to require." {COL 162.4} It doesn't matter that "all have sinned" or that "there is none righteous" because the blood and righteousness of Jesus atones for past sins. "Christ's character stands in place of your character, and you are accepted before God just as if you had not sinned." {SC 62.2}
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Re: Lesson #4 (4th Quarter 2011): Justification by Faith Alone
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10/29/11 04:57 PM
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Yes, law and justice is perfectly satisfied with the fruit of born-again believers Then salvation is by faith + works - faith at justification and works for sanctification? Besides, what you are saying is that after justification you can equal the Pattern, since your works are perfect.
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Re: Lesson #4 (4th Quarter 2011): Justification by Faith Alone
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10/29/11 06:46 PM
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A couple of passages which deal with this:
Many feel that their faults of character make it impossible for them to meet the standard that Christ has erected, but all that such ones have to do is to humble themselves at every step under the mighty hand of God. Christ does not estimate the man by the amount of work he does, but by the spirit in which the work is performed. When He sees men lifting the burdens, trying to carry them in lowliness of mind, with distrust of self and with reliance upon Him, He adds to their work His perfection and sufficiency, and it is accepted of the Father. We are accepted in the Beloved. The sinner's defects are covered by the perfection and fullness of the Lord our Righteousness. Those who with sincere will, with contrite heart, are putting forth humble efforts to live up to the requirements of God, are looked upon by the Father with pitying, tender love; He regards such as obedient children, and the righteousness of Christ is imputed unto them. {HP 23.4, 5}
Before the believer is held out the wonderful possibility of being like Christ, obedient to all the principles of the law. But of himself man is utterly unable to reach this condition. The holiness that God's word declares he must have before he can be saved is the result of the working of divine grace as he bows in submission to the discipline and restraining influences of the Spirit of truth. Man's obedience can be made perfect only by the incense of Christ's righteousness, which fills with divine fragrance every act of obedience. The part of the Christian is to persevere in overcoming every fault. Constantly he is to pray to the Saviour to heal the disorders of his sin-sick soul. He has not the wisdom or the strength to overcome; these belong to the Lord, and He bestows them on those who in humiliation and contrition seek Him for help. {AA 532.1}
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Re: Lesson #4 (4th Quarter 2011): Justification by Faith Alone
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10/30/11 04:09 PM
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Rosangela, I agree with the quotes you posted. Please note she never refers to the righteousness of saints as sinful. The fact Jesus sweetens it with His fragrance is not the same thing as saying it is sinful. The difference has to do with maturation - not sinfulness. We do not earn salvation by our obedience; for salvation is the free gift of God, to be received by faith. But obedience is the fruit of faith. "Ye know that He was manifested to take away our sins; and in Him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen Him, neither known Him." 1 John 3:5, 6. Here is the true test. If we abide in Christ, if the love of God dwells in us, our feelings, our thoughts, our purposes, our actions, will be in harmony with the will of God as expressed in the precepts of His holy law. "Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous." 1 John 3:7. Righteousness is defined by the standard of God's holy law, as expressed in the ten precepts given on Sinai. {SC 61.1} "If we abide in Christ, if the love of God dwells in us, our feelings, our thoughts, our purposes, our actions, will be in harmony with the will of God as expressed in the precepts of His holy law." You seem to be saying, No, they will not be in harmony.
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Re: Lesson #4 (4th Quarter 2011): Justification by Faith Alone
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10/31/11 10:27 PM
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"He adds to their work His perfection and sufficiency" "The sinner's defects are covered by the perfection and fullness of the Lord our Righteousness" "our feelings, our thoughts, our purposes, our actions, will be in harmony with the will of God"Yes, in harmony, but apparently, still needing Christ's imputed righteousness, still falling short. But he who is truly seeking for holiness of heart and life delights in the law of God, and mourns only that he falls so far short of meeting its requirements. {SL 81.1}
By God's grace, Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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