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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Johann] #146317
10/26/12 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: Johann
Is all destruction caused by sin?[quote]
Yes.

[quote=Johann]Does God destroy or heal?

Satan is the destroyer; Christ is the Restorer. FULL STOP


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Johann] #146318
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Originally Posted By: Johann
Do we need to define sin in order to understand this lesson?
Sin is transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4. Do we need to define what law? Is the law proscriptive or descriptive? Do we need to define grace? My Bible definition of grace is found in these verses: Titus 3:5-7 and Isaiah 53:11.


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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: APL] #146319
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Originally Posted By: APL
Originally Posted By: Johann
Is all destruction caused by sin?[quote]
Yes.

[quote=Johann]Does God destroy or heal?

Satan is the destroyer; Christ is the Restorer. FULL STOP


That is what we need to understand. Thanks!


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: APL] #146320
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Originally Posted By: APL
Originally Posted By: Johann
Do we need to define sin in order to understand this lesson?
Sin is transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4. Do we need to define what law? Is the law proscriptive or descriptive? Do we need to define grace? My Bible definition of grace is found in these verses: Titus 3:5-7 and Isaiah 53:11.


Is that the only Biblical definition of sin? How about John 16:8-9?

How is the law defined in the rest of 1 John 3?


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Johann] #146340
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Originally Posted By: EGW
The only definition of sin given in the Bible is: "Sin is the transgression of the law" (1 John 3:4).
Of course there is: Romans 14:23 "...for whatever is not of faith is sin"
1 John 5:17 "All unrighteousness is sin:..."


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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Johann] #146398
10/29/12 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: Johann
This lesson points out that our salvation is by grace, which means that we must not make any attempt to save ourselves.

Is that practical Christianity?

Look at the Monday section

Yes, salvation is by grace alone, far as the merits are concerned and death of the old man to sin in the person of the Saviour.

Grace is the initiative of God in giving us himself in the person of his Son, achieving by himself the salvation of the world. Thus, Mon & Tues are God's actions of salvation.

This is more than a "provision of an offer", though, as we commonly call it. Rom 3:23; 5:18 call it a gift of grace. That's the true force and breadth of Christ's actions.

Wed & Thur talk of our experience of salvation, by grace through faith: our participation in the divine nature by the Spirit of God and of Christ. For practical Christianity, you need a divine foundation. grin

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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Colin] #146399
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Btw, all destruction is not caused by sin alone: God's judgement against sin is also destructive - eg. Noah's flood.

God in Christ wishes that none should perish but all come to repentance, indeed; yet, divine judgement shall happen, too.

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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Colin] #146400
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The size of sin... smile

What did God set out to save us from, and nature with us?

The requirement for the Son of God to take our fallen, sinful human nature as his own was to bear its condemnation in his person to the cross: sinful nature itself is subject to condemnation, and must be executed eternally, for it cannot be accepted by God.

That's the extent of the sin definition we need to fathom to understand the scope of the problem of sin that God solved in giving us his Son. Amen. smile

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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Colin] #146401
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I'm not even sure I understand what you said.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: 4th Quarter 2012 - Growing in Christ [Re: Colin] #146402
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Originally Posted By: Colin
Btw, all destruction is not caused by sin alone: God's judgement against sin is also destructive - eg. Noah's flood.

God in Christ wishes that none should perish but all come to repentance, indeed; yet, divine judgement shall happen, too.
OH! I get it. So the wages of sin is really execution by God. Gotchya. Love me, or I'll bring a flood on you, or burn you alive. After all, God is love!


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