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Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal? [Re: His child] #149677
02/15/13 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: His child
I can't verify this online.
Is it a hoax?


That was my first impression--that it was a hoax.

The source is Kevin Arnette who was defrocked and fighting for his cause.
No doubt he is trying to gathering enough support to do what he is threatening.
To what level that support has been given is probably the question we should ask.

Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal? [Re: His child] #149680
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Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

This evil that prevails in the Catholic church is an identifying trademark of the end time papal beast. Our witnessing this is essential to identifying the beast, and for ammunition in proclaiming the loud cry.

They create their own demise by reinterpreting scripture, our only safety, for their own purposes so they are vulnerable to those attacks of Satan. Because they forbid the marrying of their priests they set themselves up to fail, the fruit of their teachings.

"The sins of the popular churches are whitewashed over. Many of the members indulge in the grossest vices and are steeped in iniquity. Babylon is fallen and has become the cage of every foul and hateful bird! The most revolting sins of the age find shelter beneath the cloak of Christianity. Many proclaim the law of God abolished, and surely their lives are in keeping with their faith. If there is no law, then there is no transgression, and therefore no sin; for sin is the transgression of the law." {1TT 439.2}


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal? [Re: dedication] #149690
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If it is true, we should remember that the fourth angel comes at the right time repeating the message that Babylon is fallen is fallen.

"The light which attended this angel penetrated everywhere, as he cried mightily, with a strong voice, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird." The message of the fall of Babylon, as given by the second angel, is repeated, with the additional mention of the corruptions which have been entering the churches since 1844. The work of this angel comes in at the right time to join in the last great work of the third angel's message as it swells to a loud cry. And the people of God are thus prepared to stand in the hour of temptation, which they are soon to meet. I saw a great light resting upon them, and they united to fearlessly proclaim the third angel's message." {EW 277.1}

The priests' sex scandals proclaim to the world that Babylon is fallen.

If Benedict was forced to resign because a world body was about to indict him for covering up the crimes of his priests and that European organization was going to impound the Vatican's wealth: without a pope, the process may be delayed.

If any of that is true, the papacy might not be too inclined to replace the pope.

And there is a precedence for the Catholic Church to be popeless for a year.

In 1798 the French took Pope Pius VI prisoner to France. He died that year in his captivity.

The following year 1799, there was no pope.

In 1800, Pope Pius VII was installed.

If there is anything to the political allegations, Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI is still around to give spiritual counsel to the Catholic Church, but it appears that there is no official leader to be indicted.

Babylon is fallen. Some of the virgins are sleeping. And the Bridegroom is even at the door.

Blessings

Last edited by His child; 02/15/13 11:38 AM.

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Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal? [Re: His child] #149693
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And back on the idea of prophetic time:

As the world looks at the Vatican, do we know what to expect?

I would note something that I have encountered in my study. I have come across some interesting points relating to time (the Hour of His Judgment).

The Hour of His Judgment is come.

That is a point in time when the Judgment arrives as it was when Jesus said My hour is not yet come.

But an hour is also a specific length of time like 60-minutes

"There is a concept in Judaism called Sha’ah Zemanit:
“Proportional hour…Total daylight hours divided by 12. ” http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/134527/jewish/About-Zmanim.htm

"Since a day with the Lord is as 1,000-years and 6,000-years are allotted for sin to run its course, the 1,000-years for Satan to be cast into the abyss parallels the Sabbath rest that he so despised. Thus the 7-days of creation foreshadow a 7,000-year limit until sin is completely eradicated. Based on a 1,000-year days composing the 7,000-year/week, how long would an hour be? Did Jesus not answer, “Are there not twelve hours in the day?” (John 11:9.)

"Can the length of the Hour of Judgment be calculated from the perspective of the Sha’ah Zemanit: 1,000-year day divided by 12-hours? Based on that math an hour can be 83-years and 4-months. That being true, when His Judgment Hour began on 22 October 1844 with the judgment of the dead, 83-years 4-months ended on 22 February 1928. Is it possible for the Judgment hour to have ended on 22 February 1928, then why did Jesus not come on that day?"

I suspect that the Judgment of the living is also for and hour. Since the Judgment of the dead began on 22 October 1844 (Yom Kippur) while the papacy was dead from its deadly wound, I wondered when the Judgment of the Living might begin? The SOP says in Ellen's day that we can't know that date for certainty.

But if after the Judgment of the dead continued for one prophetic hour of 83-years 4-months, and if the judgment of the living were to begin when the papacy was alive (recovered from its deadly wound in 1929) on Yom Kippur (14 October 1929) then the 83-years 4-month time frame would end 14 February 2013. YESTERDAY?

It is also interesting that the beast in Revelation 17 is allotted an hour for the ten kings to be with the papacy.

My study indicates that pope Pius XI received the healing of the deadly wound in 1929 and according to Jesuit boasting, the papacy was instrumental in getting Truman into the White House (May 2000 issue of The SPECTRUM Newspaper, http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/blackpope.htm). Thus I understand that America beginning at Pope Pius XI and Truman was to bond with the papacy beast for one hour (83-years 4-months).

From Yom Kippur 14 October 1929 until Pope Benedict resigned (the papacy was alive) and it has been 83-years 4-months that ended yesterday. And if we count backwards 83-years 4-months from the day the pope's resignation becomes effective (28 February 2013) we come to 28 October 1929. On that day Pius XI who had received the healing of the deadly wound in 1929 elevated Pedro Segura y Sáenz to the college of Cardinals. Thus Segura was a participant in the election of Pius XII.


"Segura was created Cardinal-Priest of Santa Maria in Trastevere by Pope Pius in the consistory of 19 December the same year. As he could not attend the actual ceremony, he later received his red hat personally from Pius [XI] on 28 October 1929...Segura upheld the Church's teaching in the December 1864 Syllabus of Errors by Pope Pius IX , condemning separation of Church and state, especially opposing toleration of Protestants..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Segura_y_S%C3%A1enz

Cardinal Segura condemned the separation of Church and state, especially opposing toleration of Protestants received his red cardinal hat on 28 October 1929 from Pius XI who reportedly was instrumental in putting Truman in the White House. And the ten American Presidents from Truman to Clinton bonded more and more with the papacy until the time arrived for the beast from the earth to arise with its 2 lamblike horns (Bush II and Obama) who take up the work where the papacy left off.

"When the Papacy, robbed of its strength, was forced to desist from persecution, John beheld a new power coming up to echo the dragon's voice, and carry forward the same cruel and blasphemous work. This power, the last that is to wage war against the church and the law of God is… the nation which it symbolized--the United States" (ST, February 8, 1910 par. 5).

Food for thought


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Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal? [Re: His child] #149699
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2Pe 3:8 ¶ But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
(KJV)

Both directions.

The context indicates it means time is not of essence to God as what is short for us is long for Him and what is long for us is short for Him.

Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal? [Re: kland] #149704
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I have a Few of those kind of ideas myself...

Here is from my blog about the vision I had on Sept 11 2001.

9/11 The day God held the Four Winds

...Saint Peters Cathedral, the oldest Catholic parish in New York (cornerstone laid in 1786), in the shadow of the World Trade Center, was the only building on the WTC block only slightly damaged by the landing gear of one of the planes which fell through the roof of the cathedral and landed before their altar.

The strongest representatives for the Papacy in America are in the Archdiocese of New York, and the last Archbishop of New York, Cardinal ‘O Connor, orchestrated the ecumenical movement uniting the Lutheran and Evangelical Protestants with the Papacy.

(See. http://www.leaderu.com/ect/ectmenu.html, http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontif...aration_en.html )

This Ecumenical agreement was the beginning of the fulfillment of this writing from the Spirit of Prophecy;

‘When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near.’
{Testimonies for the Church, Volume Five, page 451, paragraph 1, Chapter Title: The Coming Crisis}


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal? [Re: Elle] #149719
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I have been thinking more about this.

If this is legitimate, and I am not saying whether it is or isn't, then why isn't the news media, such as CNN, saying anything about this?

Originally Posted By: Elle
Pope Benedict resigned to avoid arrest, seizure of church wealth by Easter

http://itccs.org/2013/02/13/pope-benedic...alth-by-easter/

"Diplomatic Note was issued to Vatican just prior to his resignation
New Pope and Catholic clergy face indictment and arrest as "Easter Reclamation" plan continues
A Global Media Release and Statement from The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State
Brussels:

The historically unprecedented resignation of Joseph Ratzinger as Pope this week was compelled by an upcoming action by a European government to issue an arrest warrant against Ratzinger and a public lien against Vatican property and assets by Easter.

The ITCCS Central Office in Brussels is compelled by Pope Benedict's sudden abdication to disclose the following details:

1. On Friday, February 1, 2013, on the basis of evidence supplied by our affiliated Common Law Court of Justice (itccs.org), our Office concluded an agreement with representatives of a European nation and its courts to secure an arrest warrant against Joseph Ratzinger, aka Pope Benedict, for crimes against humanity and ordering a criminal conspiracy.

2. This arrest warrant was to be delivered to the office of the "Holy See" in Rome on Friday, February 15, 2013. It allowed the nation in question to detain Ratzinger as a suspect in a crime if he entered its sovereign territory.

3. A diplomatic note was issued by the said nation's government to the Vatican's Secretary of State, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, on Monday, February 4, 2013, informing Bertone of the impending arrest warrant and inviting his office to comply. No reply to this note was received from Cardinal Bertone or his office; but six days later, Pope Benedict resigned.

4. The agreement between our Tribunal and the said nation included a second provision to issue a commercial lien through that nation's courts against the property and wealth of the Roman Catholic church commencing on Easter Sunday, March 31, 2013. This lien was to be accompanied by a public and global "Easter Reclamation Campaign" whereby Catholic church property was to be occupied and claimed by citizens as public assets forfeited under international law and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.

5. It is the decision of our Tribunal and the said nation's government to proceed with the arrest of Joseph Ratzinger upon his vacating the office of the Roman Pontiff on a charge of crimes against humanity and criminal conspiracy.

6. It is our further decision to proceed as well with the indictment and arrest of Joseph Ratzinger's successor as Pope on the same charges; and to enforce the commercial lien and "Easter Reclamation Campaign" against the Roman Catholic church, as planned.

In closing, our Tribunal acknowledges that Pope Benedict's complicity in criminal activities of the Vatican Bank (IOR) was compelling his eventual dismissal by the highest officials of the Vatican. But according to our sources, Secretary of State Tarcisio Bertone forced Joseph Ratzinger's resignation immediately, and in direct response to the diplomatic note concerning the arrest warrant that was issued to him by the said nation's government on February 4, 2013.

We call upon all citizens and governments to assist our efforts to legally and directly disestablish the Vatican, Inc. and arrest its chief officers and clergy who are complicit in crimes against humanity and the ongoing criminal conspiracy to aid and protect child torture and trafficking.

Further bulletins on the events of the Easter Reclamation Campaign will be issued by our Office this week.

Issued 13 February, 2013
12:00 am GMT
by the Brussels Central
"


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal? [Re: Daryl] #149726
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Have you heard what happened in Ireland?

They somehow influenced the government of Ireland to cover up the waste they left behind with thousands of children being abused. Verified and proven in court, yet all the names where stricken from record.

What load of dung. How could they have so much influence even after devastating those people to be able to walk away with no damage. How could that be?

We are talking about 30 years ago, not ancient history.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal? [Re: Daryl] #149735
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
I have been thinking more about this.

If this is legitimate, and I am not saying whether it is or isn't, then why isn't the news media, such as CNN, saying anything about this?

Because the Media is own and control by Babylon. Big news as such, can only be released to the public if Babylon allows it. And this is not favorable news for their agenda. However, if the arrest and court proceedings comes thru, then eventually the media will have to cover it and you can count that they will twist it in their favor -- probably to make Benedict the scapegoat and divert all attention from the RCC.

We will see what will happen and how far this will go. I think it will go because it is the ripe time for this faction of Babylon to be judged as all the others.


Blessings
Re: Pope Benedict XVI's resignation because of child abuse scandal? [Re: Elle] #149750
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
I have been thinking more about this.

If this is legitimate, and I am not saying whether it is or isn't, then why isn't the news media, such as CNN, saying anything about this?

Look at this news clip yesterday which specifically mentions about giving Benedict court prosecution protection(immunity) from child abuse. Isn't this a proof of a action against Kevin Annett legal measure against them?

Quote:
Pope will have security, immunity by remaining in the Vatican
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/15/us-pope-resignation-immunity-idUSBRE91E0ZI20130215

By Philip Pullella

VATICAN CITY | Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:59pm EST

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict's decision to live in the Vatican after he resigns will provide him with security and privacy. It will also offer legal protection from any attempt to prosecute him in connection with sexual abuse cases around the world, Church sources and legal experts say.

"His continued presence in the Vatican is necessary, otherwise he might be defenseless. He wouldn't have his immunity, his prerogatives, his security, if he is anywhere else," said one Vatican official, speaking on condition of anonymity.


The remaining of this news article and Kevin Annett's comments about it can be found at the "Church(RCC and others) and Government tribunal process of Crimes against humanity" discussion here.


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