Dedication this is the gist of your false narrative. As shown in my previous post:



That quote says what it says.
The final fulfillment cannot be the first fulfillment from 538 to 1798, because the first is not the final. Having been in school, you know that the first test in a subject is followed by the final. They cover the same material at the beginning of the instruction and at the conclusion. They are different tests.

Whites second statement regarding Revelation 13 does not say that this entire chapter except the part relating to the time (42 months):



In an earlier post, I studied her statements about prophetic time before giving these examples from her writing of prophetic time that intervenes between 1844 and Christ's Advent. You may have missed it, but that material is available if you go back a few posts.

It is a matter of Reading EGW in context vs putting a traditional spin on her writings. She had to address this problem frequently.

Making White Contradict Herself

White is not contradicting herself: No time prophecy after 1844. People are misunderstanding and misinterpreting her statements to make her say what she did not say:





By changing the meaning of prophetic time from the definite time of Christ Coming as White used it, to mean all time prophecy, some teachers within the church have cut the church away from the anchorage of truth, and have set it adrift, to where it has received many sophistries that have arisen. Those who have been deceived by the idea that ALL time prophecy stopped in 1844 (a theory that contradicts the message that God has given through His servants after 1844) have removed a pillar of our faith. They are not doing the will of God. They are in darkness. They are casting their shadow upon the paths of others and blocking White’s writings from doing their appointed work as the lesser light.





People misunderstand White. They misquote her:











“There is nothing in the word of God to be thrown aside...”[10] “The Bible must be your counselor. Study it and the testimonies God has given; for they never contradict His Word.”[11] White’s statements agree with the Bible!

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[1] 10MR 311.2


[2] 4MR 247.2


[3] 9MR 23.2, ed


[4] 20MR 136.3


[5] 2MR 152.2, ed


[6] 1T 462.3, ed


[7] 21MR 428.1, ed


[8] 5MR 141.1, ed


[9] RH, March 2, 1886 par. 6, ed


[10] ST, June 3, 1886 par. 13, ed


[11] 3SM 32.3

It is very likely President Trump will be reelected.

Hey Mike,

Based on prophecies or personal opinions?

It is not outside the realm of possibility. If he does not start a war with Iran during this term, he can do it in his next term.

But my gut tells me that sudden destruction is closer at hand than 2020

I pray for him and us.

Prophetic Time After 1844

In context, Revelation 10:6 (there should be time no longer) explains prophetic time as it is used in Revelation after 1844, the year that the Adventists experienced the Great Disappointment: The year that Jesus did not Come! The year that ended the 2300-year prophecy. The year that Jesus stood for His people to confess them before His Father and His angels. Thus, the bitter/sweet book being eaten by John in vision in verse 10 is the portion of Daniel relating especially to the 2300 years, i.e., Daniel 8:14 & 11:2-12:1.



The time (2300 years) was specified in Daniel 8:14. Later, more details were given about time in chapter 9.

God had bidden His messenger: “Make this man to understand the vision.” That commission must be fulfilled. In obedience to it, the angel, some time after­ward, returned to Daniel, saying: “I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding;” “therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.” Daniel 8:27, 16; 9:22, 23, 25-27. There was one important point in the vision of chapter 8 which had been left unexplained, namely, that relating to time--the period of the 2300 days; therefore, the angel, in resuming his explanation, dwells chiefly upon the subject of time:[1]

Yes, Daniel 8:14 focused on the time/2300 years. Daniel 9 continued explaining time as it correlated the starting of the prophecy with historical events. Daniel 11:2 transitioned from time to the events that would take place during the 2300 years. It began with the three kings: Cyrus, Darius, & Artaxerxes, who would issue the decrees that had been foretold, and it predicted the important waymarks that would come to pass through the entire 2300 years until Daniel 12:1 was fulfilled when Christ stood for His people in 1844.



Thus, when Revelation 10:6 declares that there should be time no longer, it is a declaration that the long time/day for a year application of time in the 2300-day/year prophecy ended: The 2300 years were fulfilled! But the declaration in Revelation 10:11, Thou must prophesy again, is a command to the book of Daniel to repeat; including the prophecy 11:2-12:1 without the time/2300-day/year limitation.





The command to prophesy again (Revelation 10:11) is a command to repeat the prophecies in the book of Daniel. Since the book of Revelation is opening the book of Daniel, it is also being commanded to prophesy again. Thus, when the time prophecies in Revelation repeat, they are in literal time.





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[1] GC 325.2, ed


[2] RH, November 24, 1904 par. 8, ed The Day of the Lord is Near…


[3] 13MR 394.1, ed


[4] 1MR 99.3, ed


[5] 17MR 1.3, ed

HC: Hey Mike, based on prophecies or personal opinions? [/quote]
Definitely "gut feeling". The time prophecies brought us to 1844. The stage has been set ever since. Jesus could have returned ere this. We are on borrowed time. Once the church is ready for the Shaking (result of Sunday legislation and enforcement), Jesus will allow events to unfold that will end with His returning. Currently the Church is not ready. That's what we're supposed to be praying for. We need to believe faith works by love and purifies the soul and then . . .

The Kings of the North and South

Before the 2300-year prophecy had ended in 1844, William Miller recognized that the Kings of the North and South had become European powers. He linked them to “Spain, in the south, and Great Britain, in the north…” “Spain…joined the French.”[1] The Kings of the North and South had become Great Britain and France.



The French had been conquering Europe. General Berthier invaded Rome and captured Pope Pius VI. “In 1798 …a French army entered Rome, and made the pope a prisoner….”[2] “Pius VI…is the pope specified in prophecy, which received the deadly wound.”[3] “One of his heads as it were wounded to death” (Revelation 13:3). Prophetically speaking, France’s jailing the pope made the Roman Catholic Church the daughter of France, the King of the South.

Prophecy had identified the King of the South as Egypt. Though France claimed to be a friend of the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, and France had an envoy at Istanbul, Napoleon invaded Egypt (the King of the South), which was then an Ottoman province. Napoleon then claimed to have liberated the Egyptians from Ottoman oppression. His Egyptian victories had made France the King of the South in place of Egypt. Since Egypt was vital for England’s trade route with India, Napoleon’s Egyptian war endangered British interests as much or more than his wars in Europe.

Because France ruled the Mediterranean Sea and all of its European ports, the British fleet commanded by Admiral Nelson had been forced to harbor near the Gibraltar fortress. When the British located the French fleet anchored off the coast of Egypt, Nelson left the safety of Gibraltar, and crossed the Mediterranean in 30 days (whirlwind speed for sailing ships back then). This fulfilled Daniel 11:40: Nelson’s fleet sank the French fleet in the battle at Abuqir 1 August 1798 and it chased Napoleon along the Mediterranean coastline.

Without his fleet, Napoleon was forced to go over land to Europe. On the way, he besieged Acre (Akka), a strategic Ottoman fortress between Egypt and Syria. The British flotilla joined the Ottoman forces. From the Mediterranean, the British fleet shelled the French positions. Because the Ottomans depended on England’s naval might to defend Acre, England became the King of the North in place of the Ottoman Empire. When Napoleon retreated to Egypt, the British fleet pursued him as Daniel’s prophecy had foretold.



Napoleon returned to Egypt (without fighting in Jordan, Moab, or Edom), and then he escaped with his army. The British then dominated the Mideast to secure its routes to India. “He shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps” (11:43).



Henry John Temple, 3rd Viscount Palmerston, Britain’s Foreign Secretary, typifies the King of the North. He feared a Russian-French alliance would shift the European balance of power. Under his direction, Britain was fighting in the east and the north: 1803-India, 1812-USA, and 1815-France. He used the Ottoman Empire to keep Russia from accessing the Mediterranean via the Dardanelles. He also fought Russian expansion in the north through Afghanistan into India.

Palmerston convinced Russia, Prussia, and Austria 15 July 1840 that Egypt was about to topple the Ottoman Empire. In his view, this would upset the balance of power; he preferred a weak sultan rather than a strong military leader that would strengthen and enlarge the Ottoman Empire. On 11 August 1840, they gave Egypt an ultimatum to stand down or face their allied forces. Muhammad Ali of Egypt refused, and war followed.

“Josiah Litch in 1838, two years before the expected event was to occur. In that year he predicted that the Turkish power would be overthrown “in A.D. 1840, sometime in the month of August”[[4]] but a few days before the fulfillment of the prophecy he concluded more definitely from his study that the period allotted to the Turks would come to an end on August 11, 1840.”[5] It happened in their war with Egypt.



Though it is not indicated within the text, this passage is highly supplemented by the translators. Note what Daniel literally wrote: To plant dwelling palace sea glorious holy mountain to come end of time to help.

The British fleet partially fulfilled this prophecy when it anchored between Mount Carmel and Acre to plan their assault of Acre. They then occupied Acre in November 1840. “In the face of European military might, Muhammad Ali acquiesced.”[6] Soon thereafter, Palmerston’s government came to its end…in 1841 it was voted out of office. Thus, the waymarks given in Daniel 11 happened as prophesied to bring the prophecy to Christ standing for His people in 1844.


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[1] Evidence From Scripture and History of the Second Coming of Christ About the year 1843, William Miller (1841) p. 105, ed

[2] GC88 266.2, ed

[3] 5MR 318.1, ed

[4] Josiah Litch, The Probability of the Second Coming of Christ About A.D. 1843, p. 157 as cited in Daniel and the Revelation, U. Smith p. 513.

[5] Daniel and the Revelation, Uriah Smith, p. 513

[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_of_Egypt

Perilous Times with Perplexities



The prophecy (Daniel 11:40-12:1) arrived at the time of the end of the 2300-years. Michael stood for His people in 1844 to begin the Investigative Judgment. The 2300-year prophecy ended and the events within the prophecy repeat without the long time (day for a year) parameters.

Daniel repeats by predicting what is to happen after the 2300 years arrived at the end of years in 1844. The prophecy repeats in the end of years (Daniel 11:6). Starting here, much of the history that has been fulfilled in Daniel 11 repeats. “We are to see in history the fulfillment of prophecy…”[2]





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[1] YI, January 16, 1896 par.2


[2] 8T 307.2 (1904), ed


[3] LS 437.3, ed

So then:

According to your calculations, what is the day and hour that Trump will find himself before Congress in the hot seat of Impeachment?

This is to help us determine whether you are:

• a true prophet, OR
   
• a fake-news-media-talking-head regaling us with the meanings of tea leaves at the bottom of your big cup of scripture.

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Bible students study the Bible and learn from the systematic study.
I can only share what I have learned as I learn it.

Prophecy Repeats to Our Day

After France (King of the South) had taken Pope Pius VI captive in 1798, prophetically, the Roman Church became the daughter of the King of the South. France assumed the role as the Protector of the Catholics.

In 1846, Palmerston came back into office in Great Britain (King of the North). The Tsar wrote to him of the Ottoman Empire: “We have on our hands a very sick man, perhaps it would be as well to arrange for his funeral.”[1] When Palmerston refused to remove the Ottoman Empire from being a buffer between Russia and the Mediterranean, the Tsar protested that Orthodox Christians in Palestine were being endangered by the Catholics.

The Crimean War (1854-1856) followed. As prophesied, in the end of years they, the Kings of the North (Britain) and South (France), shall join themselves together; they opposed Russia in the Crimean War.

Count Cavour, who was on a mission to unify Italy under King Victor Emanuel II, had joined the allies in the Crimean War just in time to get a place at the peace table. He settled a border dispute between France and Italy that put Italian unification in motion. The pope opposed Italian unification because he would lose his secular rule over the Papal States.

As prophesied, the king’s daughter of the south shall come to the king of the north to make an agreement: but she shall not retain the power… Even though British ships were positioned off Italy’s coast during the struggle for Italian unification (in case British nationals had to be evacuated) England refused to help the papacy keep the Papal States. And France declined to help the pope keep the Papal States.

By 1870, “France was stripped of its Italian territories... Meanwhile, the Italian king had driven the pope into the Vatican City and was thereafter excommunicated from the Catholic Church ...”[2] When France was stripped of its Italian territories, Italy became the King of the South.



The Roman Church had had two roots or branches: the religious (church) and secular (state). Mussolini (a branch of the state/political roots) seized Italy’s government in 1922. From 1885-1889, Italy formed alliances with the African kingdoms: Zanzibar, Obbia, and Caluula; and its influence extended to Ethiopia. Official borders existed between Italian Somaliland and British Kenya in 1908.

As the King of the South, Mussolini entered the fortress of the King of the North (Kenya), dealt against them, and prevailed: He unilaterally seized Britain’s Jubaland Province in Kenya and the town and port of Kismayo. But Britain did not respond to his attack with a war, instead, it relinquished the territory to Italy.[3]



Though Muslims saw the belief in God and Jesus like having many gods, the Italian-Catholics got along well with the Muslims in Egypt; too well from the British perspective. In WWII, Britain alleged that Egypt’s Prime Minister favored the Axis powers. King Farouk I, while in his 20’s, was given the ultimatum to replace him or to be replaced. The king replied to Britain’s Ambassador that he would get rid of his Italian advisors when the ambassador got rid of his Italian advisor (his wife). After World War II, Egypt’s British trained generals ousted Farouk. He was granted asylum in Italy.

During WW II, President Franklin Roosevelt (FDR) had rescued Britain from certain destruction. Thus, he became the King of the North in Great Britain’s place. FDR had become President in 1933, and he died 12 April 1945.

Mussolini had seized Italy’s government to become the King of the South in 1922, and he died on 28 April 1945. As Daniel’s prophecy clearly foretold: Mussolini (the King of the South) continued 23 years more than Roosevelt (the King of the North), who had only ruled for 12 years.



When Mussolini died, the King of the South returned to his own land, Egypt. Prophecy continued to be fulfilled!

King of South Outlives King of North


Mussolini...………..FDR...………..FDR...………...Mussolini


Seized Power......President....Died...……...…..Died


1922...…………...1933...…......4/12/45...…..4/28/45


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[1] Caesar to Churchill p. 42 CF “A History of England” p. 653.


[2] http://www.heritage-history.com/?c=academy&s=char-dir&f=emmanuel1i, ed


[3] Cf http://bearcatspage.50megs.com/custom3.html


[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Egyptians#cite_note-9, ed