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Re: Concern over President Trump's Impeachment [Re: His child] #189949
07/02/19 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by His child
Originally Posted by James Peterson
Jesus fulfilled the LAW. It is finished.

He said, "O foolish one, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?" And beginning at Moses (THE LAW) and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.

--- Luke 24:25-27

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Yom Kippur comes between Sept and October yearly and it reminds us that Jesus is still working out our salvation.


That's not Biblical. That is VERY far from the truth. The Book of Hebrews encourages us, "Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace (typified by the Mercy Seat in the Most Holy Place), that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need." Heb. 4:14-16

And that was since the first century AD. Christ's work on our behalf was finished since that time, in the days of Calvary!

It is written, "After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the Scripture might be fulfilled, said, I thirst! ... So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, It is finished! And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit." John 19:28-30

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Re: Concern over President Trump's Impeachment [Re: kland] #189960
07/03/19 07:04 AM
07/03/19 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by kland
but how do you prove that 10 Tishrei fell on September 27 since September is from the Gregorian Calendar which is not in the Bible.
I think you just said that you haven't a clue!
No matter what calendar system you use, there should be a certain day that 10 Tishrei falls on. Provided you know when the Jewish calendar system starts, and what starts it.


Those who use the Hebrew calendar have correlated it with the Gregorian through the centuries. You may reinvent the wheel and pat yourself on your back for your great accomplishment. I may choose to go to Walmart and buy one that someone else has made.

your argument is basically asserting that the world is flat because you cannot prove it is a sphere. I am not going to waste time on foolishness and parley with you.

If you do not think that Yom Kippur was on 27 September 2001, please show evidence from the Bible to prove your assertion.


Last edited by His child; 07/03/19 07:13 AM. Reason: formatting correction

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Re: Concern over President Trump's Impeachment [Re: James Peterson] #189961
07/03/19 07:28 AM
07/03/19 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by James Peterson
Originally Posted by His child

Yom Kippur comes between Sept and October yearly and it reminds us that Jesus is still working out our salvation.


That's not Biblical. That is VERY far from the truth. The Book of Hebrews encourages us, "Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace (typified by the Mercy Seat in the Most Holy Place), that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need." Heb. 4:14-16

And that was since the first century AD. Christ's work on our behalf was finished since that time, in the days of Calvary!

It is written, "After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the Scripture might be fulfilled, said, I thirst! ... So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, It is finished! And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit." John 19:28-30

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James,
Are you arguing that Yom Kippur does not come between September and October yearly?
Or are you trying to say that Christ's work in our salvation ended at Calvary?

Revelation 3:5 "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before My Father, and before His angels."

If Christ's work was finished at Calvary, Do you not want Christ to confess you name before His Father?

1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"

Do you not want Jesus to be your Advocate before God in Heaven?


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Concern over President Trump's Impeachment [Re: His child] #189963
07/03/19 11:41 AM
07/03/19 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by His child
Originally Posted by kland
but how do you prove that 10 Tishrei fell on September 27 since September is from the Gregorian Calendar which is not in the Bible.
I think you just said that you haven't a clue!
No matter what calendar system you use, there should be a certain day that 10 Tishrei falls on. Provided you know when the Jewish calendar system starts, and what starts it.


Those who use the Hebrew calendar have correlated it with the Gregorian through the centuries. You may reinvent the wheel and pat yourself on your back for your great accomplishment. I may choose to go to Walmart and buy one that someone else has made.
His child: Because someone else says so.
No doubt, you expect us to believe anything you say because, you said so.

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your argument is basically asserting that the world is flat because you cannot prove it is a sphere.
Not so. It would be a fair comparison if I had said it came on 27 October 2001 or some other date, prove otherwise.
But I did not.
I asked you to support your statement, to show what you say is true.

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I am not going to waste time on foolishness and parley with you.

You just do not know!

Another Omega is a "W" moment.

You are basing your imaginary prophecy on something you cannot stand behind!!!!

Re: Concern over President Trump's Impeachment [Re: His child] #189964
07/03/19 11:56 AM
07/03/19 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by His child
James,
Are you arguing that Yom Kippur does not come between September and October yearly?
Or are you trying to say that Christ's work in our salvation ended at Calvary?

Revelation 3:5 "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before My Father, and before His angels."

If Christ's work was finished at Calvary, Do you not want Christ to confess you name before His Father?

1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"

Do you not want Jesus to be your Advocate before God in Heaven?



Where in Leviticus 16 is there any mention of the High Priest going into the Most Holy Place, opening a book and scratching out names, hmmm? SDA holler, bawl and scream "Type, Type, Type and the Antitype!" But when asked where, they stammer, stumble and fall. Then they mumble something which they themselves don't even understand.

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Re: Concern over President Trump's Impeachment [Re: kland] #189969
07/04/19 06:31 AM
07/04/19 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kland


Another Omega is a "W" moment.

You are basing your imaginary prophecy on something you cannot stand behind!!!!


The evidence was presented in the original post. You ignored it or rejected it, and acted like it was not there. I took the bait and wasted too much time so that you could rack up brownie points in your self-confident skepticism.

We are told that Christ's coming will be as it was in the days of Noah.
Some folks strengthened their skepticism until it began to rain.
Then they saw their folly when it was to late, too late.

the omega W is a duo U


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Concern over President Trump's Impeachment [Re: James Peterson] #189970
07/04/19 06:57 AM
07/04/19 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by James Peterson
Where in Leviticus 16 is there any mention of the High Priest going into the Most Holy Place, opening a book and scratching out names, hmmm?
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James,

The text that you requested is:

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And he shall make an atonement for the holy sanctuary, and he shall make an atonement for the tabernacle of the congregation, and for the altar, and he shall make an atonement for the priests, and for all the people of the congregation (Leviticus 1616:33)


When sins were confessed, the sinner placed his hands upon the head of the sacrifice. He killed it and its blood was poured under the altar.

The act of pouring the blood under the altar bore witness that someone had sinned and repented of their sins. When atonement was made for the altar, the sins that were repented of were erased if the sinner was truly repentant and "afflicting" themselves on Yon Kippur.

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And [this] shall be a statute for ever unto you: [that] in the seventh month, on the tenth [day] of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, [whether it be] one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you: Leviticus 16:29


Calvary was where Christ (the Lamb of God) made the Sacrifice for our sins. When Jesus ascended to heaven to present Himself before the Father the record of our confessed and forsaken sins were taken to heaven to the presence of God. When Jesus confesses our names before the Father and His angels, Jesus is declaring that we have truly repented of our sins and accepted Him as our Sacrifice. This is the Sacrifice and Oblation.

The Sacrifice is Jesus, the Oblation is our accepting Him as our Savior and Him accepting us as His child.

I hope that clears it up for you.
Christian regards


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Concern over President Trump's Impeachment [Re: His child] #189978
07/04/19 05:04 PM
07/04/19 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by His Child
When Jesus ascended to heaven to present Himself before the Father the record of our confessed and forsaken sins were taken to heaven to the presence of God.

And the Biblical evidence for this is? ....

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Re: Concern over President Trump's Impeachment [Re: James Peterson] #189979
07/04/19 07:06 PM
07/04/19 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by James Peterson
Originally Posted by His Child
When Jesus ascended to heaven to present Himself before the Father the record of our confessed and forsaken sins were taken to heaven to the presence of God.

And the Biblical evidence for this is? ....

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I would ask, does this go against the Bible?


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Concern over President Trump's Impeachment [Re: Daryl] #189980
07/04/19 09:42 PM
07/04/19 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
Originally Posted by James Peterson
Originally Posted by His Child
When Jesus ascended to heaven to present Himself before the Father the record of our confessed and forsaken sins were taken to heaven to the presence of God.

And the Biblical evidence for this is? ....

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I would ask, does this go against the Bible?

Of course!

Jesus Christ was "the Lamb of God," according to John the Baptist, "who takes away the sin of the world." John 1:29. He didn't take it anywhere. He took it all away. John did NOT say that Jesus was the Lamb of God who took the sin of the world somewhere. In other words, Calvary stands as the overarching evidence that the sin of the world was forgiven, thrown into the depths of the sea, never more to be remembered.

That is why Jesus told Nicodemus, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His Only-begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." John 3:16 And He showed an example of this with the thief on the cross, "Assuredly, I say to you today," He said, "you will be with Me in Paradise." Luke 23:43. Based solely on an act of faith in Him.

The Book of Hebrews assures us, "For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified." Heb. 10:14 Perfected as in cleansed, atoned for completely. It is our responsibility thereafter to respond accordingly to that gift of salvation. That's all.

"My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world." 1 John 2:1-2

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In the Shoutchat Box, you asked for donations to cover the expense of upgrade and maintenance. Nevertheless, you provided this opportunity out of the genuine kindness of your heart and a desire to see community engagement among believers. You did it without any member ever asking it of you first. Once and for all. Your joy and happiness is found in members interacting in Christian grace with each other. Think of salvation like that. The ONE sacrifice you made is like that: for the whole world, especially for those who accept your provision.

There is nothing besides that but an "eternal" rest of peace and conversation in your presence!
Romans 8:14

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