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Was Christ A Liberal Or A Conservative? #41542
09/24/05 09:20 PM
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When we look at the life of Christ in both the Bible and the writings of EGW, was Christ a Liberal or a Conservative?

I am not referring to the two political parties within Canadian politics. [Big Grin]

I ask this question for a reason, therefore, I first wait to see what kind of replies, if any, I will receive. [Smile]

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Re: Was Christ A Liberal Or A Conservative? #41543
09/24/05 09:31 PM
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I think Jesus was above liberal or conservative. He was about His Fathers buisness and not on a liberal or conservative agenda.

/Thomas

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Re: Was Christ A Liberal Or A Conservative? #41544
09/24/05 09:39 PM
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Are you then in effect saying He was neither?

Let me also ask the question this way. How then did the people see Christ, as a Liberal or as a Conservative?

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Re: Was Christ A Liberal Or A Conservative? #41545
09/24/05 09:52 PM
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Yep, thats what Im saying.

For your secound question. Liberals saw a conservative and conservatives saw a liberal.

/Thomas

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Interesting.

I will post more after I hear a few more replies here. [Smile]

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Re: Was Christ A Liberal Or A Conservative? #41547
09/25/05 03:12 AM
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Compared to the people in His day He was liberal. He healed and gathered food on the Sabbath, He cast out the money changers, He spoke of forgiving and forgiving and forgiving.... He said to pay your taxes and go the extra mile. He said love your neighbor and He showed love for the unlovely. He associated with prostitutes and tax collectors. He stood up for the down trodden. He said if you want to be saved then you must be born again. He preached a message of being saved by Grace, not by works. These were all things that went against the conservative established Jewish leaders who thought they were following inspired word to the inth degree and that they could earn their way into heaven.

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Re: Was Christ A Liberal Or A Conservative? #41548
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Christ was both. In terms of the misunderstandings of the time, He was liberal. In terms of actually observing the law of God, as it is in truth, He was a conservative.

An incident comes to mind where He spoke of the Pharisees tithing on mint, dill and cumin but not observing justice, mercy and faith -- the weightier matters of the law. What Christ said was very interesting, demonstrating both Christ's liberalness and conservativeness: "This you should have done, without leaving the other undone."

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Re: Was Christ A Liberal Or A Conservative? #41549
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He was no doubt considered a liberal at His time, because religious narrow-mindedness prevailed.

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Re: Was Christ A Liberal Or A Conservative? #41550
09/25/05 02:06 PM
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How do we, the people of today, look back on Christ; as a liberal, as a conservative, or as both?

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Re: Was Christ A Liberal Or A Conservative? #41551
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Truth is neither liberal nor conservative, it is simply Truth. Only against a religious/secular background can Truth be perceived as a right or left issue. Right and left, liberal and conservative, these concepts change all the time and in time, especially in politics, but Truth remains constant, though it might be hard for us to discern because it is tainted by politicians and theologians. With Christ there is no taint, only pure Truth.

Redfog

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