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Satan's Conversion - truth or tactic?
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02/19/04 04:47 AM
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GC 588, 589 As spiritualism more closely imitates the nominal Christianity of the day, it has greater power to deceive and ensnare. Satan himself is converted, after the modern order of things. He will appear in the character of an angel of light. Through the agency of spiritualism, miracles will be wrought, the sick will be healed, and many undeniable wonders will be performed. And as the spirits will profess faith in the Bible, and manifest respect for the institutions of the church, their work will be accepted as a manifestation of divine power. {GC 588.2}
The line of distinction between professed Christians and the ungodly is now hardly distinguishable. Church members love what the world loves and are ready to join with them, and Satan determines to unite them in one body and thus strengthen his cause by sweeping all into the ranks of spiritualism. Papists, who boast of miracles as a certain sign of the true church, will be readily deceived by this wonder-working power; and Protestants, having cast away the shield of truth, will also be deluded. Papists, Protestants, and worldlings will alike accept the form of godliness without the power, and they will see in this union a grand movement for the conversion of the world and the ushering in of the long-expected millennium. {GC 588.3}
Through spiritualism, Satan appears as a benefactor of the race, healing the diseases of the people, and professing to present a new and more exalted system of religious faith; but at the same time he works as a destroyer. His temptations are leading multitudes to ruin. Intemperance dethrones reason; sensual indulgence, strife, and bloodshed follow. Satan delights in war, for it excites the worst passions of the soul and then sweeps into eternity its victims steeped in vice and blood. It is his object to incite the nations to war against one another, for he can thus divert the minds of the people from the work of preparation to stand in the day of God. {GC 589.1}
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Re: Satan's Conversion - truth or tactic?
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02/19/04 04:48 AM
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Is Satan truly converted or is it a tactic?
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Re: Satan's Conversion - truth or tactic?
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02/18/04 05:05 PM
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Hi Mike, What is meant by "converted"? When I read the quotes you provided from GC it seems to me that satan will use his tactics to appear to be a converted being..something like the angel of light, but in reality he is the same murderer he has always been. God Bless, Will
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Re: Satan's Conversion - truth or tactic?
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02/19/04 11:07 PM
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Didnt the devil appear as an angel of light before Christ in the wilderness right after His baptism by John the Baptist?
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Re: Satan's Conversion - truth or tactic?
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02/20/04 03:39 AM
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"Satan himself is converted, after the modern order of things. He will appear in the character of an angel of light."
This passage doesn't say Satan will convert into an angel of light to deceive and ensnare us. Rather it says he is converted to the new brand of Christianity and that he will have the character of an angel.
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Re: Satan's Conversion - truth or tactic?
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02/21/04 04:00 AM
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- as the leader of Babylon. Which he is.
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Re: Satan's Conversion - truth or tactic?
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02/21/04 06:23 AM
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Hi Mike, Is this new brand of Christianity something we are seeing today? God Bless, Will
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Re: Satan's Conversion - truth or tactic?
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02/21/04 05:08 PM
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No, I don't think so. If we look at the context of the quote at the beginning of this thread it places the "new and more exalted system of religious faith" during the MOB crisis. Certainly things are happening now, and have been since the days of Sister White, that will eventually result in protestants, catholics and worldlings uniting under the influence of spiritualism.
I suspect the phrase "Satan himself is converted" implies that the Devil will become so engrossed in his own lies that he will actually experience a conversion too. Satan craves acceptance and worship. He envision a world where the hosts of heaven and earth honor him as they do God.
I don't think he wants to perpetuate evil. He is probably looking forward to a time when everyone loves one another and loves him supremely. Of course it would never work out that way, but that doesn't stop him from believing it now. He is severely deceived.
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Re: Satan's Conversion - truth or tactic?
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02/21/04 08:50 PM
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So what we can expect to see is that there will be some sort of movement in which it appears to be something to help out the world. It will be a religious movement that will be packagd as Christianity, but in fact is a reworked version of spiritualism correct? God Bless, Will
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Re: Satan's Conversion - truth or tactic?
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02/22/04 03:43 AM
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Yes, that's what makes sense to me. What do you think?
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