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Re: Babylonian Sins & Spiritual Slavery...
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01/11/06 03:02 AM
01/11/06 03:02 AM
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The Lord called SDA's to a higher calling by forming this denomination. Where is the difference in Sabbath to Sabbath preaching? I don't see much.
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Re: Babylonian Sins & Spiritual Slavery...
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01/11/06 03:16 AM
01/11/06 03:16 AM
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I am sorry to read that you feel the SDA church is no different than the fallen churches as you imply.
The indifference you feel from Sabbath to Sabbath is really a personal problem, one that Christ can fix, not man. If you go to church to criticize, and not share the Gospel with those who don't know Christ, then yoy would do well to not be on that screams out "Did we not prophesy in your name"..
May God give you the peace you need in your heart.
-Will
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Re: Babylonian Sins & Spiritual Slavery...
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01/11/06 04:03 AM
01/11/06 04:03 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Will:
I am sorry to read that you feel the SDA church is no different than the fallen churches as you imply.
The indifference you feel from Sabbath to Sabbath is really a personal problem, one that Christ can fix, not man. If you go to church to criticize, and not share the Gospel with those who don't know Christ, then yoy would do well to not be on that screams out "Did we not prophesy in your name"..
May God give you the peace you need in your heart.
-Will
And so, when you go to church are the sermons all the same? I simply made a personal observation. If this is grounds for my condemnation so be it. I was not baptized into a mamby-pamby, beat around the bush, hide the light under a bushel, SDA faith. This denomination has some restructuring to do, and the Lord will do it very soon.
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Re: Babylonian Sins & Spiritual Slavery...
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01/11/06 04:05 AM
01/11/06 04:05 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by The_Lord_Is_One:
The Lord called SDA's to a higher calling by forming this denomination. Where is the difference in Sabbath to Sabbath preaching? I don't see much.
Will, you've misread our friend's point... ![[Smile]](images/icons/smile.gif) He's saying there is significant to total lack in weekly sermons of the deep Biblical truths of Christ's cross and his righteousness making victory over sin in our faith lives both possible and inevitable, as we should be hearing in Adventist churches.
What we receive week by week - from parish pastors and visiting preachers - is instead a shallow expression of "Jesus saves", and "trust in him" for forgiveneness and peace by his presence. Power of the gospel is absent.
This, normal serving from the Word is exactly what one could obtain the next day at a neighbouring Sunday church. We want m o r e spiritual m e a t, as is well known to be held and drawn from our beliefs. While we remain shy, the world misses out on our witness and we lack edification.
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Re: Babylonian Sins & Spiritual Slavery...
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01/11/06 04:09 AM
01/11/06 04:09 AM
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This denomination has some restructuring to do, and the Lord will do it very soon.
Surely it's not "restructuring" but just a little research into what we actually believe as SDA's.
Someone may find a simple sermon inspirational, but that doesn't mean the whole church is edified.
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Re: Babylonian Sins & Spiritual Slavery...
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01/11/06 04:42 AM
01/11/06 04:42 AM
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If your church is lazy and sleeping in the pews there is a problem. The church is not a vacation spot filled with a buffet of entertainment, and you can go home and relax afterwards. We are told by Jesus to go and make disciples of all nations.
If anyone here is not doing that, I highly recommend heeding His word's and starting there first.
God Bless,
Will
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Re: Babylonian Sins & Spiritual Slavery...
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01/11/06 10:14 AM
01/11/06 10:14 AM
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Yes, members' outreach doesn't have the same energy or numbers as the Sabbath School class - small as it is!, but it's the sermon more than the prayer meetings which should inspire, and they generally just don't, ignoring the urgency and message of the times...
I'm learning the humble trade of a laypreacher at this time, and preachers are supposed to bring out of God's treasure house insights of God's truth and righteousness in Christ which are new to the congregation, and to the preacher. Pastors aren't bold enough with sermons, either, in my experience.
It's all the parish leaders who should look higher, spiritually, for their morsels of inspiration.
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Re: Babylonian Sins & Spiritual Slavery...
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01/11/06 10:53 AM
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I am speaking mainly about church administrators who are seeking to squelch the pioneer truths of the past by not allowing the changes required to do this Colin. We have nothing to fear of the future, except that...
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Re: Babylonian Sins & Spiritual Slavery...
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01/11/06 10:57 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin:
Will, you've misread our friend's point... He's saying there is significant to total lack in weekly sermons of the deep Biblical truths of Christ's cross and his righteousness making victory over sin in our faith lives both possible and inevitable, as we should be hearing in Adventist churches.
What we receive week by week - from parish pastors and visiting preachers - is instead a shallow expression of "Jesus saves", and "trust in him" for forgiveneness and peace by his presence. Power of the gospel is absent.
This, normal serving from the Word is exactly what one could obtain the next day at a neighbouring Sunday church. We want m o r e spiritual m e a t, as is well known to be held and drawn from our beliefs. While we remain shy, the world misses out on our witness and we lack edification.
Succinct!!... I like this very much. Thank You Colin
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Re: Babylonian Sins & Spiritual Slavery...
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01/11/06 12:05 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Will:
If your church is lazy and sleeping in the pews there is a problem. The church is not a vacation spot filled with a buffet of entertainment, and you can go home and relax afterwards.
I thought we were to rest on the Sabbath? Is it not a day of sacred rest and fellowship? In it, you shall not do any work... Shall we back up our comments with scripture, or is this your way of personal attack?
I realize that there needs to be a personal commitment to evangelism, but your words are an indictment against fairness and equity.
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