We are having a good discussion in Lesson #7.

Now it is time to begin discussion on Lesson #8, which is really a carry over, a continuation, and an expansion of the discussion in Lesson #7.

Here is the direct link to Lesson Study #8:

http://www.ssnet.org/qrtrly/eng/06c/less08.html

Sabbath afternoon's study says, "So far, we've seen that Daniel 8 ended with Daniel needing more explanation about the 2,300 days. Daniel 9 provides that explanation. Gabriel, the same angel interpreter in Daniel 8, points him directly back to the mareh of Daniel 8, the only part of the vision that he didn't understand. Gabriel immediately gives him another time prophecy, the 70 weeks, which is "cut off," obviously from the larger time prophecy of the 2,300 days.
Unlike the 2,300 days, which doesn't mention a specific starting point, Daniel 9 does have one: the "commandment to restore and build Jerusalem," which we saw last week was issued in 457 B.C.

Meanwhile, 69 of the 70 weeks of this prophecy reach to "the Messiah the Prince," Jesus. Thus, Jesus Himself forms the center of this prophecy; He's the foundation, the focal point of the 70 weeks. It all rests on Jesus, "the chief corner stone" (Eph. 2:20)."

My question from the discussion in the Lesson #7 topic is are we satisfied that the correct starting date is 457 B.C.???

I see no other date that would fit as the 457 date fits.
If the date 457 is altered even by 1 year then what happens to the prophecy about Christ and the known dates of His coming into His ministry and His death and the death of Steven 3.5 years after the Death of Christ and at Steven’s death the Jewish leaders also rejected that Christ was the Messiah and His teachings.

If all these dates are correct then the 457 has to be correct also.

There is the 2520 prophecy that also shows that the starting date for the 2300-day prophecy is 457 BC.

Peace and Grace
David

What's the 2520 prophecy? And how does it establish 457BC?

The 2520 is the oldest time line in the Bible.
The founders taught the 2520 time line and it is on the old charts.

It can establish the beginning date of the 2300-day prophecy.

While there is not much to this time line when compared to the 2300-day it is interesting in and of its self. It ends also in 1843/44 along with the 2450 and the 2300-prophecies.

Do you have either the 1843/44 chart of Miller or the1850 chart by Bro. James White?

Peace and Grace
David

Bro David,

I don't have the charts you're referring to. Can you give me a brief outline of what the 2520 prophecy is, and how it establishes 457BC and 1844AD? Thanks.

Yes give me a day or two to put it in writting. I do not have it written out so I cannot copy and paste it tonight. I am also startting a new job tommorrow and will be kind of busy the next couple of days.

Peace and Grace
David

I do not know if I'm thinking of the same topic, but years ago in College and Seminary, when studying about the studies of Lynn Harper Wood and Dr. Thiele it was briefly mentined in class that there was a time prophecy that Miller used that brought him to 457 BC, and while further study has shown that he did indeed get the right date, it was pointed out (and I have not studied into this) that what he used did not hold up to further Biblical studies of Seventh-day Adventist leaders and theologians as we continued in the 1800s and 1900s and did not become a part of Seventh-day Adventism as we developed into a denomination. That we keep 457 because of the evidence for that date, but that we have long given up Miller's reason for picking that date.

Wouldn't there also be ancient historical records of this decree that would help establish this start date of 457 BC?