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Lesson Study #13 - The Gospel and JUDGMENT
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09/16/06 04:36 PM
09/16/06 04:36 PM
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This week's study could prove to be an interesting study as I read elsewhere regarding some concerns about what the author has written in this week's study, which I/we will examine for myself/ourselves. Here is the direct link to this week's study:http://www.ssnet.org/qrtrly/eng/06c/less13.htmlLet our study, examining, and discussion begin.
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Re: Lesson Study #13 - The Gospel and JUDGMENT
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09/16/06 05:36 PM
09/16/06 05:36 PM
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Here is a quote of this Sabbath Afternoon comments: Quote:
Memory Text: "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" (1 John 2:1).
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As Adventists, we believe that since 1844 we have been living in the antitypical day of atonement. This means that the earthly day of atonement was simply a model, a type, of this true day of atonement. In the same way that the animal sacrifices were symbols of the Cross, the earthly Day of Atonement was a symbol of the real one, the one inaugurated in 1844 by Christ's work of judgment in the heavenly sanctuary.
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This, of course, is good news. After all, what is atonement other than the work of God saving us through Christ's blood? The law can't atone; obedience can't atone; character can't atone. Atonement comes only one way, through the Cross.
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If, then, we are living in the day of atonement, shouldn't that be good news? Shouldn't any "day" dedicated to atonement, to God's work of saving us, be something we should be thankful for? Shouldn't we be rejoicing in the hope of living in the day of atonement?
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Of course. The judgment is good news because it forms an inseparable part of "the good news"; it is the climactic application of the Cross in our behalf. This week we'll look at the gospel and the judgment, because it's only through the lens of the gospel that we can fully see just what the judgment means for us.
Does everybody agree with the above quote?
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Re: Lesson Study #13 - The Gospel and JUDGMENT
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09/16/06 08:17 PM
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This week's study could prove to be an interesting study as I read elsewhere regarding some concerns about what the author has written in this week's study, which I/we will examine for myself/ourselves.
I have difficulty believing this statement from the lesson:
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But how do I know that I will have enough works to show that I have faith? That's a logical, but wrongly premised, question. It reflects that attitude of those who said, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? ..."
I believe that the author directly contradicts James 2:14-26.
I hope no one is going to deny that the Seventh-day Adventist church generally, like that Adventist author, are strongly opposed to hearing how they fail in obeying God. I'm reminded of the time I heard a visiting Adventist administrator preach a whole sermon condemning those who believe in Isaiah 58:1 and the whole congregation seemed to approve.
"Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and show my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins."
Strangely, I have a non-Adventist friend who visited an Adventist church in another state and she heard the same sermon condemning any and all Seventh-day Adventists who would faithfully obey Isaiah 58:1.
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Re: Lesson Study #13 - The Gospel and JUDGMENT
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09/16/06 11:38 PM
09/16/06 11:38 PM
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That quote was taken from Wednesday's study. Here is the whole quote: Quote:
But how do I know that I will have enough works to show that I have faith? That's a logical, but wrongly premised, question. It reflects that attitude of those who said, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?" (Matt. 7:22), or of the Pharisee who said, "God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess" (Luke 18:11, 12).
Unless I am missing something, I personally do not see anything wrong with this quote. Works are important, not as a requirement of salvation, but rather as a result of salvation. Works can't save me, however, if my profession of faith doesn't result in works, then my profession of faith is dead, just as faith without works is dead.
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Re: Lesson Study #13 - The Gospel and JUDGMENT
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09/17/06 03:10 PM
09/17/06 03:10 PM
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But, should our faith be based on our works? Shouldn't works, instead, be a result of our faith? I just thought of the following text: Quote:
Mat. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
What's wrong in this situation?
What good did their works do them here?
What was lacking?
What role did faith play here?
What role should faith play?
What role should works play?
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Eph. 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
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Re: Lesson Study #13 - The Gospel and JUDGMENT
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09/17/06 04:03 PM
09/17/06 04:03 PM
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Yes, works are important, as a result of genuine faith, but not as a prerequisite for salvation, for we are not saved by our works, but our works do follow a genuine faith relationship with Jesus Christ. Good works are really evidence of genuine faith, but our good works alone are not evidence of genuine faith as Matthew 7:22 and 23 has shown.
We are saved by grace through faith, but we are judged by our good works, which really is the evidence of faith. This is why we can't separate our resulting works from our faith, for our professed faith, without our corresponding good works, is dead.
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