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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - Meekness in the CRUCIBLE
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I don't know that Paul told us to always be happy. But he did tell us to always rejoice. And when we keep in mind all the good things that stem from suffering, why wouldn't we rejoice? How about Jesus? He said "Blessed are the meek" - and blessed means to be exceedingly happy.
"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - Meekness in the CRUCIBLE
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Wasn't it also Paul who said in 1 Thess. 5:18, "In everything give thanks, for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you."? It is not necessary to be happy to be thankful. Happiness, as an emotion, is fickle and should not be trusted.
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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - Meekness in the CRUCIBLE
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"If you think that meek is weak, Try being meek for a week." Meekness is most definitely not weakness.
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There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - Meekness in the CRUCIBLE
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How about Jesus? He said "Blessed are the meek" - and blessed means to be exceedingly happy. They are happy in the final outcome, for they shall inherit the earth. But that doesn't mean that they are happy to be persecuted, especially when one realizes that the persecutor is hurt more than the persecuted. How can the meek be happy that someone is hurting themselves, being slaves of sin?
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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - Meekness in the CRUCIBLE
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How about Jesus? He said "Blessed are the meek" - and blessed means to be exceedingly happy. They are happy in the final outcome, for they shall inherit the earth. But that doesn't mean that they are happy to be persecuted, especially when one realizes that the persecutor is hurt more than the persecuted. How can the meek be happy that someone is hurting themselves, being slaves of sin? Matthew 5:11"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - Meekness in the CRUCIBLE
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Perhaps it is how we look at things that determines how we respond to those who mistreat us and dispitefully use us? I brought this up in our SS discussion. To be meek is not to surrender our rights; but it is the preservation of self-control under provocation to give way to anger or to the spirit of retaliation. Meekness will not allow passion to take the lines. {ST, August 22, 1895 par. 3} When we are provoked and tempted to be angry and retaliate, who is our greatest enemy at that point? Self. Self is trying to be in control again. Essentially, it is trying to enslave us. So, if we become angry or retaliate, we might repel the persecutor, but we become slaves to sin in the process. Essentially, we give up our right to liberty and put ourselves in bondage. But "to be meek is not to surrender our rights." And that especially means not to surrender our right to be free from the tyranny of self, sin, and Satan. If that means that people will continue to persecute me because I continue to refuse to be a slave to self, then so be it. I might look like a doormat to human eyes, but I am free in reality. He who can stand unmoved amid a storm of abuse is one of God's heroes. To rule the spirit is to keep self under discipline; to resist evil; to regulate every word and deed by God's great standard of righteousness. He who has learned to rule his spirit will rise above the slights, the rebuffs, the annoyances, to which we are daily exposed, and these will cease to cast a gloom over his spirit. {AG 256.2}
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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - Meekness in the CRUCIBLE
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Matthew 5:11"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. Again, the happiness is because of the final outcome - reward in heaven - not because of present evil. It is not rejoicing because of evil, but in spite of evil. I don't think that the truly converted can be happy about the existence of evil.
By God's grace, Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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