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Re: Why do people fear/hate Ellen White?
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02/27/08 05:06 PM
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Mike, how about recogniseing the human Ellen White in Bradford's footsteps?
Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Why do people fear/hate Ellen White?
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02/27/08 05:50 PM
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Do people fear or hate Sister White because of her humanness? I know I'm okay with it.
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Re: Why do people fear/hate Ellen White?
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02/27/08 06:58 PM
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You asked:
"Is there anything we can do to restore the effectiveness of the SOP? "
Not taking a fundamentalist approach towards Ellen is a step in the right direction. Recogniseing the difference between Ellen and the Spirit of prophecy is another. Whenever someone calls Ellen the Spirit of Prophecy, it implies that Ellen is a manifestation of the Holy Spirit on earth.
Recognising the human Ellen would mean the recognision that she could learn new things, some of which may make older things obsolete. I would also mean reconsidering the claims of her infallibility (unofficial to be sure but non the less real).
Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Why do people fear/hate Ellen White?
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Oh, I see what you mean. Definitely, she was a human, and totally not infallible. Her knowledge and understanding of doctrine grew as she matured as a Christian, and as God unfolded more truth to her. She shared the truths God shared with her. And, there were issues, such as eating pork, that God chose not to make a big deal out of in the beginning of the Advent Movement. So, we find Sister White, earlier on, counseling certain people not to make a big deal out of eating pork. But, later on, God shares with her the importance of not eating pork. Now it is considered a sin to eat pork. It is in this way, I believe, that Sister White grew in her knowledge and understanding of doctrine. God revealed to her what was important for us according to His timing.
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Re: Why do people fear/hate Ellen White?
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I think some are led by evil or are so deep in its grip that when they come across Christ words or testimonies it is almost as if a vitriol reaction.....
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Re: Why do people fear/hate Ellen White?
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I think some are led by evil or are so deep in its grip that when they come across Christ words or testimonies it is almost as if a vitriol reaction..... And by this you wish to say?
Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Why do people fear/hate Ellen White?
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There are those who are in the grip of evil who constantly try to grieve true believers and tear down what is from God....
Acts 16:18
And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.
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Re: Why do people fear/hate Ellen White?
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03/05/08 07:21 PM
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And if you tie this to something happening in this thread?
Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Why do people fear/hate Ellen White?
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When they fear, hate, attack and persecute Christ again and the testimony He brings to us, only the divine can reach them as they kick against the pricks....
Acts 9:5
And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
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Re: Why do people fear/hate Ellen White?
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03/05/08 07:36 PM
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Where in this thread has Christ been persecuted?
Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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