In the ultimate sense yes, we will literally, in person, be with God.
But in the immediate sense the Holy Spirit, having the fullness of the Godhead, brings Christ and the Father to us spiritually.

In the immediate sense both the Father and Christ are with us in the person of the Holy Spirit.
Just as the Father was with the disciples in the person of Jesus, there in the upper room.

Remember the previous verse --
Philip asks Jesus to show them the Father.

Why did Jesus answer him saying "YOU HAVE SEEN THE FATHER" "he that has seen me has seen the Father; and how say you, Show us the Father?"

Now the "oneness movement" (a Pentecostal group) claim that passage proves that God the Father and the Son are one and the same person, they say there is only one Being who changes into different phases. Father, Son, and Spirit -- are supposedly all just phases of the one being. But I believe the Godhead is three living, eternal persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, Who are distinct personalities, yet have a oneness we don't even begin to comprehend in which they know each others thoughts, feel each others feelings, each having all the attributes of the full Godhead within themselves, yet in perfect unity of oneness. Thus where one is present, all three are present through that one.

Example: God the Father wasn't crucified, He wasn't physically on that cross, yet, 2 Cor. 5:19 "To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself." In their Oneness connection He was on the cross with Christ.

Do you think Jesus in the context was referring to His second coming?
And how does that fit in with the previous statements bolded?

John 6:1 After these things Jesus went over the sea of Galilee, which is [the sea] of Tiberias.
6:2 And a great multitude followed him, because they saw his miracles which he did on them that were diseased.
6:3 And Jesus went up into a mountain, and there he sat with his disciples

There's something about miracles that attract people. Especially miracles that take away disease.

Jesus had taught people all day and was seeking some time alone with His disciples. From the hillside He looked down at growing multitude of people, and His heart was stirred with sympathy. He knew they had a tough time just getting on in life. Interrupted as He was, and robbed of His rest, He was not impatient. He saw a greater necessity demanding His attention as He watched the people coming and still coming. He was "moved with compassion toward them, because they were as sheep not having a shepherd" [Mark 6:34]. Leaving His retreat, He found a convenient place where He could minister to them. They received no help from the priests and rulers, but with Jesus it was the healing waters of life flowed from Him as He taught the multitude the way of salvation.

Reading about those Reformers (they weren't perfect) BUT they put their life on the line standing up for the truth they discovered in the Bible. It was not easy for them.
We have no real idea of what it's like to have powerful dignitaries committed to trampling on everything we believe and seeking our very lives.

What is it that gave them the courage to stand amid fierce opposition?

It is done => half an hour silence => neither cold or hot => the kingdoms of this world will become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ.

(7th Plague) => (7th Seal ) => (7the Church) => ( 7th Trumpet)

It is done => half an hour silence => neither cold or hot => the kingdoms of this world will become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ.

Isn't it so clear that this perspective speaks loudly by the Holy Spirit to the churches?

Satan's end game is Rev. 12:17. He always mixes the truth with error. The Seven Trumpets are not historical, and many of God's people still cherish erroneous interpretations. "Satan puts his interpretation upon events, and they think, as he would have them,..." MS 10:239

The background of the seven trumpets is not a mere historical event but a sanctuary- a place of divine judgment. Jesus will declare, "It is done" from the sanctuary in heaven, a moment that will mark the end of all things. A space of half an hour will exist for the angels to agree that there is no intention of the souls to repent any more, a chilling realization of the impenitent spirit that has long plagued the churches in the Laodicean condition.

In the Seventh Plague, it says, "It is done." When Jesus declare "it is done", the kingdoms of this world exist no more because it will become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ.

Rev. 16:17 "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done."


Rev. 11:15 "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever".

The time is coming, and now it is. The activity of heaven will suddenly stop in the work of salvation for men because of unheeded warnings and unrepentant. Look at the seventh seal; heaven has ominous silence as though the ministering angels are in shock at the oblivious hearts of men toward the great salvation offered in Jesus Christ?another way to say that angels could not find any more repentant sinners whom they can minister to. The angels reflect on this and consider no plea to Jesus about leaving the heavenly sanctuary and announcing, "It is done."

Rev. 8:1 says, "And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour."

There was a week of heaven's silence when the door of Noah's Ark shut after eight people entered it. The half-hour of Rev. 8:1 is equivalent to this space period.

Even the seventh seal has a thematic connection to "It is done."

The lukewarm condition of the seventh church of Laodicean manifests symptoms that explain why a merciful grace period is no longer necessary and must end.

When we read in connection with each element of the seventh of the four pillars of Revelation, we can easily see a thematic link: the seventh plague => the seventh seal => the seventh church => the seventh trumpet.

Some online commentators are speculating that the large pro Hamas protests against Israel among the intellectual elite and Ivy League students is a precursor. As these future leaders take the reins of power, it may lead to the withdrawal of US support for Israel in the coming years. Considering the widespread belief in dispensationalism and the rebuilding of the third temple, among American evangelicals and mainline Protestant Christians, could the threat of withdrawing support for Israel be a catalyst for a power grab in which church and state to unite?

That amalgamation, I'm afraid, is FACT and increasing more and more by the hour!

People are now cloning themselves!

What's even more staggering is that people ask their clone for counsel!!!!


People are making digital clones of themself

In looking at the first six chapters of Daniel as a type of the National and Universal Sunday laws, certain aspects can be seen that help us to know with certainty what to expect. This applies in both the physical and spiritual realms.

In the spiritual realm there is often the question of when do we receive the seal of God. The Spirit of prophecy lets us know that we are not sealed when the first Sunday law test comes, as it 'is the great test for God?s people.'

"The Lord has shown me clearly that the image of the beast will be formed before probation closes; for it is to be the great test for the people of God, by which their eternal destiny will be decided? In Revelation 13 this subject is plainly presented;" (Revelation 13:11-17, quoted).

"This is the test that the people of God must have before they are sealed. All who prove their loyalty to God by observing His law, and refusing to accept a spurious sabbath, will rank under the banner of the Lord God Jehovah, and will receive the seal of the living God. Those who yield the truth of heavenly origin, and accept the Sunday sabbath, will receive the mark of the beast?" (15MR 15.1-3)

In another place she lets us know when we do receive the seal:

"About four months since, I had a vision of events, all in the future. And I saw the time of trouble, such as never was,--Jesus told me it was the time of Jacob's trouble, and that we should be delivered out of it by the voice of God. Just before we entered it (Jacob's time of trouble), we all received the seal of the living God." (DS, March 14, 1846 par. 2)

When the Sunday law has gone global, it is then that Michael stands up and human probation closes. Then God?s people are plunged into Jacob's time of trouble. (GC 615-616)

The same thing is shown in Daniel. As we saw in the quotes in the first part, the raising of the image in Daniel 3 represents the raising of the Sunday law in America. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego represent God's people who are standing under the three angels messages as the Sunday law is enacted. They are thrown into the fiery furnace because of their refusal to bow to the image. The Bible records that 'they fell down bound in the midst of the burning fiery furnace.' God's people are not sealed at this point, because it is the great test they must have before they are sealed.

Two things are destroyed as a result of this test. The mighty men that cast Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego into the furnace, and the bands that bound them. The destruction of these two things represent the final victory over our inherited and cultivated defects of character. It is in the heat of the trial that these things will be destroyed. This trial will be significant, in that we will experience wholesale persecution, reproach, hatred and contempt. Martyrs will also be produced.

It is interesting to note that these men had to successfully pass through the testing trials of Daniel 1 and Daniel 2 before they could pass through the test of Daniel 3. The same principle applies to the three angels' messages and the sanctuary. It is always the first two that prepare for the survival of the third.

This can be shown in type with the two angels that visited Lot. It was because of the instruction of those two angels that Lot survived the destruction of Sodom. 'Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot? Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.' Luke 17:26-30

The same is true with the two spies, or messengers (Josh. 6:25) who came to Rahab in Jericho. Again, it was only because of the instruction given by these two men that she knew to gather her family into her home, and to place the scarlet line out the window, thus enabling them to survive the destruction of the city. The scarlet line is the same as the blood on the doorpost, representing the atonement and merits of Christ, which caused the destroying angel to pass over.

Daniel 1, 2, and 3, are identical with the three angels, and these three angels are in turn, identical with the Courtyard, Holy Place, and Most Holy Place. The three testing temptations of Christ in the wilderness are also the same as the three tests of Daniel 1-3. The first temptation and Daniel 1 are on appetite, the second temptation and Daniel 2 are on presumption and prophecy, and the third temptation and Daniel 3 are about worship.

Daniel 4 and 5 represent the completion of the mystery of Godliness and the mystery of iniquity in each of the two classes of people. As a result of the seven times that Nebuchadnezzar passed through, just as the three Hebrews passed through the furnace heated seven times hotter, he is represented as having excellent majesty added unto him. (Dan. 4:36) Belshazzar, on the other hand, knew what Nebuchadnezzar passed through, but failed the test, and judgment was pronounced against him. These two men represent two classes of people.

The first class receive the seal of God, and the latter receive the mark of the beast. Just as they are sandwiched between chapter 3 and 6, so the spiritual condition of the two classes of people are brought to completion simultaneously between the National and Universal Sunday laws. The one class now perfectly reflects the character of Christ, and the other perfectly reflects the character of Satan.

Daniel 6 represents God?s people as sealed. Daniel is found with 'an excellent spirit within him,' and as 'faithful, neither was there any error or fault found in him.' (Daniel 6:3-4) Each group now have either the seal or the mark, and are prepared for the final battle.

AI project: enabling people to talk to their departed loved ones?

Wow!
This quarters lessons dig deep.
Notice at the bottom of each Sabbath day's page there is reference to chapters in Great Controversy that are being referenced.
The lessons then use the historical backgrounds to draw lessons for us in our Christian life.

The first lesson covered the origin of Sin --
A mighty, powerful, intelligent, beautiful angel challenges God and His government.
After all, aren't angels intelligent and fully capable of thought, reasoning and choosing what they want and don't want. Aren't they holy? They don't need God telling them what they can and can't do. So he worked, stealthfully at first then more openly to convince the angel's that God's laws are restrictive, and that he would offer them a more exalted existence, they could be like god, be their own god.

The question arises, if God knew one of His intelligent, beautiful angels would rebel against Him, why did He create that angel?

If it wouldn't have been that particular angel that rebelled, sooner or later another would have. The only way to avoid it would have been NOT to created thinking, reasoning beings who had the power of choice.
But God wants people, angels, to serve Him because they love and trust Him, not because they are programed to do so.

He could have wiped Lucifer out right then and there,,
What would that have accomplished?
All the other angels would have served out of fear and dread.

So God said, OK Satan, you cannot stay in heaven, for sin cannot live in heaven.
BUT, you can demonstrate your idea of a kingdom on one planet .

In the Garden of Eden where Adam and Eve lived, there was one tree that had forbidden fruit.
Satan was allowed access to that one tree. He could not follow Adam and Eve around the garden, and Adam and Eve were warned concerning this enemy.
But if they ate of that one tree. They listened to his lies and the gates of sin were opened. Satan and his angels could roam the earth and plague the human race, teaching them to disregard God, and be their own "gods".

You won't die, (you are immortal) Satan told Eve on the fateful day, you will be like god! (Defining your own right and wrong)

And that has been his alluring lie to mankind ever since.
And most believe him.

Inspite of the death, misery and woe, Satan's reign has given mankind; so many still believe they've achieved a higher level of existence by operating independent of God.

The four angels of Revelation 7 are working overtime. I wonder how much longer they will hold back the winds?