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Papal ambitions #182221
12/24/16 12:23 AM
12/24/16 12:23 AM
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What is this the ambitions goal of the Papacy? What is their "endgame".

According to former Jesuit Malachi Martin writing some 25 years ago during John Paul II's pontificate:
Quote:

"From the very beginning of his pontificate, John Paul has been talking incessantly about the convergence of the nations. He had the endgame in view some ten years before other men ...(493)
another era long or short, in mankinds history, , when a grand design of God's wuld be inaugurated for the society of nations. It would be a geopolitical unity of all nations. It would come after all the efforts of Transnationalists and Internationalists, had come to utter shipwreck ...Following that shipwreck, the Grand Design of God would be executed. He [the pope] would be the servant of that Grand Design.... (637)
"He is waiting, rather, for an event that will fission human history, splitting the immediate past from the oncoming future. It will be an even on public view in the skies, ...the circumambient glory of the Woman whom the apostle describes as "clothed with the sun" and giving birth to a child who will rule the nations. ...for it will immediately nullify all the grand designs the nations are now forming and will introduce the Grand Design of man's Maker. ...
when the fissioning event occurs, to assume that ministry, derived directly from the Petrine authority entrusted solely to him (as pope) that authority, that is symbolized in the Keys of Peter, washed in the human blood of the God man Jesus Christ. (The pope) is and will be the sole possessor of the Keys of the Blood on that day." (639) The Keys of this Blood the struggle for World Dominion


That book is full of this agenda.
It is being guided by "mary"
who has given the papacy their agenda.

The chief anti-Christ posing as "mary" is working through his servant for the final crises over worship.

The world civil power that will enforce this is centered in America, which is already bowing to the authority of papacy.

Re: Papal ambitions [Re: dedication] #182223
12/24/16 12:40 AM
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The last post quoted from writings written 25 years ago.

But read this news report written recently:
How Pope Francis Became the Leader of the global left

I don't think Francis, who is playing the "left" field", is the last pope
Nor is leftist president Obama the last president.
However, they have laid the ground work.

There is an agenda -- that is being followed.
That agenda plays opposites against each other in order to bring about it's final goal.

It's all working to the same goal.
But when the worship crises hits, it will look like good is winning over bad.

In the final end-game the whole world "almost" will be worshipping the dragon, the beast, and the image to the beast, thinking they are worshipping God.

Things are shaping up just as prophecy foretold.

See this video for more evidence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh1JCzPQG6A





Re: Papal ambitions [Re: dedication] #182245
12/27/16 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: dedication
The last post quoted from writings written 25 years ago.

But read this news report written recently:
How Pope Francis Became the Leader of the global left

I don't think Francis, who is playing the "left" field", is the last pope
Nor is leftist president Obama the last president.
However, they have laid the ground work.

There is an agenda -- that is being followed.
That agenda plays opposites against each other in order to bring about it's final goal.

It's all working to the same goal.
But when the worship crises hits, it will look like good is winning over bad.

In the final end-game the whole world "almost" will be worshipping the dragon, the beast, and the image to the beast, thinking they are worshipping God.

Things are shaping up just as prophecy foretold.

See this video for more evidence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh1JCzPQG6A






Excellent post dedication.

it is very important to God's Remnant people to stay out of the polarizing had games played throughout our society and the world. That is why we need to be very careful to keep a very safe distance from politics.

Re: Papal ambitions [Re: dedication] #182405
01/29/17 03:26 AM
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The evidence is leaves no doubt:
Pope Francis Calls For One World Religion!

Re: Papal ambitions [Re: dedication] #182406
01/29/17 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: dedication

The evidence is leaves no doubt:
Pope Francis Calls For One World Religion!

dedication did you watch the video? It doesn't appear so for no where the Pope calls for the new world order. He doesn't even go near there.

All he said, that we all, from different religions or believes, have common ground to talk. And I agree.....dialogue is very important right now with all the tension(mainly in Europe) having a major in-flux of immigrant(mostly Islamic) moving into Christian countries.


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Re: Papal ambitions [Re: dedication] #182407
01/29/17 09:36 PM
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There is a difference between
One World Religion and
One World order

The first seeks to rule in a spiritual sense over diverse nations, the second seeks a political unity.

Prophecy does not predict a one world order in which all nations give up their sovereignty -- for nations will not cleave one to another according to Daniel 2. They will try but it won't succeed. There will be wars and rumors of wars until the end. All the plans for political and economic reconstruction will fail.

However, prophecy does predict a spiritual unity that will be enforced upon the world. All the world will worship the beast and his image, except for a few that will resist his mark. (Rev. 13 & 14)

Re: Papal ambitions [Re: dedication] #182408
01/29/17 10:51 PM
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Dialogue -- how important is it really?

Now good communication is a good thing, when there is no hidden agenda.
However, dialogue can have a huge DOWN SIDE.
Dialogue is the means for propaganda and inflicting a paradigm thought shift upon the populations.
Dialogue can be HUGELY deceptive.
In fact it is a Jesuit promoted agenda to bring unity of religions by elevating "common ground" and ignoring, downplaying and even ridiculing the truths that broke honest Bible seekers away from the papal church.


Bible prophecy reveals that the end time will be a tumultuous period of deception and betrayal. A strong delusion (II
Thessalonians 2:11) will overtake the minds of men so that they will willingly worship the Dragon (Satan) and the Beast and his image (Revelation 13). They will look to the papacy (as they already are doing more and more) as the "father" and see all the dialogue as the "Elijah message" bringing the children back to the papal father. In the chaos of worldly situations people everywhere will wondrously proclaim,
"Who is like unto the Beast? who is able to make war with him" (Revelation 13:4)? Come let us unit with him for he will lead us back to peace. He is the link of peace between muslims, Christians and other religions that will bring peace upon the earth. Listen to him and follow him.

But will it? Prophecy shows the answer is NO!

The dialogue -- seeks common ground?
Very true -- why? We see them beginning to unite upon such points of doctrine as are held by them in common, and soon they shall influence the Civil Powers to enforce this so called "common" religion.
Do all religions lead to the same place? Do they all serve the same God?
That's what the "common ground" theory is trying to teach. But it is a huge deception.
All false religions have a resemblance with truth, but that does not make them true.


Religious liberty is one thing.
Allowing people the freedom to worship as their conscience directs -- that's religious liberty -- that is good. That is what made our country great.
But that is NOT what is happening in these so called dialogues that seek mergence -- that mergence will not led to liberty.
Do Muslims believe in religious liberty?
Do Catholics believe in that?

No -- they don't.
The Catholic definition of religious liberty is:
their church and those who unite with them, should have liberty to do whatever they want, they are above governments and civil laws. They are to lead the government, never the other way around.
But it does not include liberty to believe what they (the Catholic church) consider wrong.
Both Muslim and Catholic religious intolerance, when they have the power, is well documented.

Don't let the sweet talk of "we have common beliefs" deceive you.
The agenda of dialogue now is to get everyone focused on "common ground" and unite. It's sweet talk now -- to lure people into the trap. But when they have the power -- then the forces will seek to strip away uncommon TRUTH and spiritual dictatorship will reign.

Re: Papal ambitions [Re: dedication] #182415
01/30/17 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: dedication
There is a difference between
One World Religion and
One World order

Sorry I thought it was one World order.

Originally Posted By: dedication
However, prophecy does predict a spiritual unity that will be enforced upon the world. All the world will worship the beast and his image, except for a few that will resist his mark. (Rev. 13 & 14)

Isaiah, Hosea and other prophets does talk about a spiritual unity of the natural nation of Israel(the 10 north tribes dispersed via the Assyrian captivity) with all the nations, and also the nation of Judah will join the nation of Israel. So yes, in the Bible there is a unification of the nations after the fall of Babylon.

There is such Biblical concept that a unification of all under the name(nation) of Israel. So the Catholic Church got the correct concept and on top of it, they also were founded from the early Church (something the Adventist Church are not). The Adventist Church makes the very same claim -- that we are the last Church and everyone will come into our Church because we keep the Sabbath and the other 9 commandments of the law. Don't you think it's a little hypocritical?

My understanding from the Bible is that both Church are wrong in many ways to assume this. Neither are the end time Church who I beleive is the 144K, the overcomers... for you need to be able to hear Jesus voice and follow Him wherever He Leads. These Churches are bound with an establishment that has a deep rooted foundation that cannot just quickly pack up and follow Jesus. It was not time to build a house(Church) with a foundation when we hadn't arrived to the promise land yet. According to the TYPE set in the law, we were to live in a Sukka (tent) without foundation so we would be able to pack up quickly and follow Jesus to the next encampment (spiritual lesson) to receive His following teachings.

The Catholic Church, the Seventh-Day Adventist Church & all other religions and nations and all on earth will sooner or later will come to recognize who ever these individuals are coming from all different religions, faith, time, nations, ... that are part of Jesus' true Church at His 2nd coming. I believe that these overcomers, have one thing in common -- they went thru Jacob's troubles and wrestled with an important Angel that gave them the name "Israel" (God Rule).


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Re: Papal ambitions [Re: Elle] #182645
03/03/17 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: dedication

The evidence is leaves no doubt:
Pope Francis Calls For One World Religion!

dedication did you watch the video? It doesn't appear so for no where the Pope calls for the new world order. He doesn't even go near there.

All he said, that we all, from different religions or believes, have common ground to talk. And I agree.....dialogue is very important right now with all the tension(mainly in Europe) having a major in-flux of immigrant(mostly Islamic) moving into Christian countries.


I watched the video and I believe it directly points to a New World Religion!

Jews and Islam both reject Christ as God! How can they be one with Protestant Christianity? They can't unless they repent of their present beliefs!

Nothing is being left undone to destroy true Protestant Christianity in the world. That is an extremely important part of the New World Order.

Re: Papal ambitions [Re: Alchemy] #182703
03/07/17 04:53 PM
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Well, I found no hint of any "one world religion" or "one world order" in the video. I do think the Pope is calling for dialogue though.

I find it unfortunate, however, that dedication seems to think dialogue is bad.??? She seems to be extremely paranoid, and I'm not sure why.


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