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Re: Additives to be aware of in our food items #31604
02/16/06 11:16 PM
02/16/06 11:16 PM
Gerry Buck  Offline
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Benton Harbor, Mi.
Bobby,
I was a truck driver for over 25 years, and ate a lot of 'food' from greasy spoons ( literally), truck stops and even a few mom and pop joints.
It had to be fast and inexpensive, I was on a tight schedule and had to keep moving to make 'appointments' to load or unload.

Right now, I have been able to get the red meat cut out, mostly chicken and turkey now, but, we have to buy what we can get the most of for less.
Maccaronni, pasta, canned vegs., etc.

Options are limited, money is tight, and my wife and I are on a lot of different meds.

I have heard of the CHIP program, but don't know a lot about it.

It just seems that anything that would help is priced out of my range.

Re: Additives to be aware of in our food items #31605
02/25/06 08:28 AM
02/25/06 08:28 AM
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Bobby  Offline OP
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Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 56
British Columbia
quote:
Originally posted by Stephanie Suranyi:
I can attest to the fact that this lady would be unwilling to do any of that. If she could get my mom to buy pork chops, she would...Fortunately, my mom will stand by my dad's wishes and not purchase that stuff. Now, this is just to give you an idea of this lady's mental state as far as ftood is concerned. I believe she won't even LOOK at tofu, let alone eat it. Veggie meats? No thanks.....(her talking, not me) She can't stand mushrooms, and I think there are some other foods that are "good for you" that she doesn't like. I believe she chooses white bread over wheat, butter on her toast, basically high fat, high sugar foods. Did I mention that she is non-Adventist? I guess the pork chop reference gave it away, eh? Anyway, if she knows it comes from the Adventist church, forget it. She won't consume it. Mom leans a little more toward the church's teachings, but she is non-Adventist as well. She is the type, last I knew anyway, who feels it isn't a complete dinner without a carcass on the table. Though, occasionally, she will eat tofu. She actually likes it, for the most part, as long as it has some kind of flavor.

BTW, I checked out www.glaepalife.com and as much as the idea interests me, it is WAY out of my budget. I don't have an extra $600 for 2 months supply of supplements......CHIP looks doable, though. I'm going to look into purchasing some seeds and pots so I can grow my own "minigarden" here in my apartment. I live in one of the Chicago suburbs in an apartment complex. I have a small patio but many windows. If I can keep the cat out of the windows, I may be able to grow some veggies/fruits in there. Now, would you suggest that I run my water theough the refrigerated purifier (of course I would have it room temp) before pouring it on the plants? Or will the tap water be ok for that?
Now, my husband is kind of "meat and potatoes" as well. I have a tough time getting him to eat very many green veggies.....because of that, my son is against greens as well....Angie and Dad can attest to that! If there is even a HINT of green in anything, he won't eat it. We have spaghetti and if he spots any oregano in the sauce, forget it....I have to PICK OUT the bits of oregano! Got the mental picture there? When he was a baby, I had NO problem getting him to eat peas, beans, etc....now? forget it. Any suggestions?

Ok, I have no problem mentioning the foods I ate prior to surgery and comparing them to post-op.
before: I ate tfoods that were/are dietarily acceptable by Adventist teachings....no unclean meats, etc. Now, one of my favorite foods was chicken wings. I didn't have them everyday, but I loved them when I got them. I drank soda, be it regular or diet. When I had meat, it was the leaner cuts. I would get ground round or ground chuck as opposed to the fattier ground hamburger. Usually, though, I would get the ground turkey. I only got chicken breasts when purchasing chicken at the store because my husband can't handle dark meat poultry. I even purchased some fish: flounder, salmon, perch, etc. I also ate morningstar farms veggie meats, tofu, salads, all kinds of veggies except brussels sprouts & a few others. The bread I ate, for the most part, was white bread. I did that because it was cheaper and we had a limited income. I am, admittedly, a chocoholic, so you can guess what that means....

Now, after surgery, It is pretty much the same except that I can't eat high fat foods nor high sugar content. I can't have white bread (per doctor's orders) because it becomes doughy in my "pouch" (new stomach) and can block the opening. Still love salads, no soda because it can expand the pouch. Fish, not so much because it was pretty much ALL I had for the first couple months post-op (after getting past the liquid diet, of course). Chicken is breast only, unless there is only one piece of breast and a bunch of legs & my husband is with me, then I let him have the breast because I can tolerate the dark meat. Still like chocolate, but only have a small amount every once in awhile now. Eat veggies. I DO like the veggie meats, but cannot get to the ABC, or any other store that sells them, before they close. Still like tofu. I basically eat the same allowed foods, but in smaller quantities and less sugar/fats. Did that clarify things a bit?

Yeah, I know ALL about chocolate. I still have my days where I eat more than my fair share.

Some history;
This is what I used to eat when I first moved to BC from NS. This was my typical daily eating habits for every day I worked at the gas station:
7 or 8 choc bars
4 or 5 ice tea
6 ice cream novelties (cones or sandwiches etc and usually always chocolate)
usually 1 pop
1 bag of chips (sporadic)
2 or 3 processed mini pizzas (or equivalent)

I did this for two months straight, and managed to rack up a $300 junk food bill at work for July and August. That was ten years ago, and so far, I am fortunate to not have had any major problems; YET. I have never been one to put on any weight, but I noticed that my skin was getting worse as I got older. Dry, patchy etc. Years ago I went to skin specialists and they only try to prescribe some cortizone cream, and look at symptoms instead of causes. I know what causes it now.

When I was in grade 7 & 8, long before I ever started going to church, I would eat the following every day for recess;
on a "poor day";
4 choc chip cookies, & 1-250ml milk.

a regular day would be;
8 choc chip cookies, & 1-250ml milk.

a really good day
12 chocolate chip cookies and 2-250 ml milk

I have to add a little detail to why I ate these cookies. They were frozen cookies, and the ladies at the canteen in the school, would put them in the ovens to thaw/cook before recess would hit. By the time recess came, the whole school smelled like choc chip cookies. They were warm, and fresh out of the oven. Who could resist ?

Now, to add to that, every saturday, I would collect newspaper money (as I had 2 newspaper routes to make a little income) After collecting money and delivering newspapers, I would go to the store and eat 5 vachon cakes (Joe louis, half moons, flaky pastries etc) and wash it all down with a grape pop and a lime pop. Then I would go home and eat a few bowls of cereal and some bread.

I remember the first christmas my wife and I were married, I went out and bought 6 or 7 12 pack of canned pop. Well, I drank more than my fair share and my reward was 1 nasty cold. The only thing I really remember to this day was how much mucus was expelled from my body. Even 3 years ago when I was selling pop, I would get it for free all the time, and I would regularly get sick. Same thing again and again. Head cold, then the chest cold followed.

Now occasionally, I will sneak in one and after I drink it, I literally feel a head cold coming on. But, ONLY because I now avoid drinking pop on a regular basis, therefore, my body is not used to it. I could drink a pop every day for three months before getting sick. Not anymore. Within a day, I will feel a cold coming on. If I drink a second one, I will get a cold. If I abstain, and drink more water instead, no cold.

I agree that most people will find the Chip program to be more affordable. Many problems can be reversed in that program. I will post another reponse to the other parts of your post
to be continued..

Re: Additives to be aware of in our food items #31606
02/25/06 08:36 AM
02/25/06 08:36 AM
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Bobby  Offline OP
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Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 56
British Columbia
quote:
Originally posted by Angie Street:
Bobby,

Let me put it to you this way. As a mom, I would probably have a FIT if my kids ate all the stuff she brings home. Cookies, candy, cakes, you are probably right that it is filled w/hydrogenated... whatever. It's too early in the AM... Sorry. Anyway, I very highly doubt that she would be willing to make the changes that the CHIP program requires. She is a meat and potatoes kind of woman. If it's health food, she's not interested. Thx, btw for the links. I'll check them out when I'm not feeling so bad. I think I'm coming down w/bronchitis. God bless! [Wave]

Then I guess she will surely have more problems. I know I was sick a lot when I ate lots of sugar. I even got really sick just from drinking 4 to 6 cans of Five Alive juice every day. Of course, I wasn't drinking much water either. The ol' lymphatic system got overloaded a little bit. I couldn't swallow anything or hardly talk for 3 days. Then I ate a raw clove of garlic and took some Oil of Oregano topically and orally. Within a few hours, bye bye throat problem. Now I know to avoid excessive commercialized juice. One of the ingredients in many of them is glucose/fructose. And no, it isn't what we are thinking of. It is glorified corn syrup labelled in a way to imply something else. We are thinking naturally occurring sugar present in the fruit, but it's not. Appalling how much deception is going on out there regarding food labels.

Re: Additives to be aware of in our food items #31607
02/25/06 09:12 AM
02/25/06 09:12 AM
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Bobby  Offline OP
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Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 56
British Columbia
quote:
Originally posted by Gerry Buck:
Bobby,
I was a truck driver for over 25 years, and ate a lot of 'food' from greasy spoons ( literally), truck stops and even a few mom and pop joints.
It had to be fast and inexpensive, I was on a tight schedule and had to keep moving to make 'appointments' to load or unload.

Right now, I have been able to get the red meat cut out, mostly chicken and turkey now, but, we have to buy what we can get the most of for less.
Maccaronni, pasta, canned vegs., etc.

Options are limited, money is tight, and my wife and I are on a lot of different meds.

I have heard of the CHIP program, but don't know a lot about it.

It just seems that anything that would help is priced out of my range.

The CHIP program will be your best bet. Most of the success depends on the individual. A desire to change, combined with education, a will, and determination to stick to the program. AS hard as it sounds, it does boil down to a choice.

I have a relative who refuses to give up dairy or other types of foods because they will miss eating them. So they continue to suffer because of that unwillingness to do away with the bad food. I know that chocolate, if eaten at all, is best to eat only when it is dark chocolate. Best to avoid white chocolate, and milk chocolate (due to the dairy in it)
Once we are aware of the damage that certain foods inflict on our bodies, some of us will look at the foods in a different light. Recently, I am looking at cookies available in the stores as "not safe". This is due to the high content of trans and saturated fats present (not even considering eggs, dairy, sugar, chocolate or chamicals/preservatives). Some of my favorite junk foods are very high in those fats, which lead to heart disease and eventually heart attacks/strokes. (among other problems)

I was in the grocery store the other night and was tempted to buy a box of chocolate chip cookies. I looked at the label and it told me the content of the trans and saturated fats. I had to make a decision to avoid them, or give in and eat them (only to be affected down the road) So I left them. Now if you personally knew me, you would see me buy those cookies and eat 6 at once, no problem. And these aren't small cookies. So slowly but surely, I am thinking and making the choice to take better care of myself. Did I want those cookies ?? Oh yeah, I sure did.

Sometimes, the desire to give in and eat something we want is overwhelming. I feel good knowing I didn't give in and eat the junk food. Now, I can repeat that the next time, then the next.

There are certain foods we can avoid right away and within a month, start seeing improvements. Unless a person has their own farm and has access to their own cow, I would avoid ALL dairy products. They are high in salt, create a lot of mucus in the body, and many are contaminated with growth hormones and other nasties.

If a person can start to look at ingredient listings, or nutritional value listings, they can really help themselves avoid many bad foods.

Margarine is one item to avoid. I personally buy a brand of margarine alternative that is safer. I am not sure if is available North America wide, but I am sure it is
It's called "Earth Balance" Non GMO 100% Expeller pressed oils. It's 100% vegan.
When it comes to oils, expeller pressed or cold pressed are the best. If a label states "vegetable oil", chances are, it's hydrogenated. If in doubt, find out.

The reason why the oil is so important is because it is in so many products. Foods we aren't even aware of. Many people never look at labels, let alone think of any concern. After all, the products are on a shelf, they must be safe, right ? Negative. That is where many people are deceived. We assume everything is safe and tested for safety.

Gerry, have you tried substituting the canned vegs for fresh instead ? If you can, it would be of benefit to you and your wife. The canned vegs are high in salt. Many people who gain weight is because of the body retaining water due to high salt intake (combined with lack of water). When a person starts drinking more water and eating less salt, they are able to lose weight (one aspect depending on the person) All canned foods, processed meats, vegetarian meats etc.. plus many other foods (cereals e.g)

My mother-in-law now has high blood pressure because she picked up a bad habit from her mother; dousing any meal with extra salt. Common table salt is actually harmful to us anyway, and should be discarded. The recent wave of "sea salt" I feel is no better. If we wouldn't drink sea water, why would we eat sea salt ? Is sea salt an organic source ? or inorganic source ? So, I will use nothing, or a person can buy dulce, or some veggie salts are okay.

Time for some zzzz. The brain is shutting down. Will continue again...

Re: Additives to be aware of in our food items #31608
03/10/06 05:08 PM
03/10/06 05:08 PM
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Bill Wennell  Offline
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Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 30
Augusta, KY
Here is a list I have of certain processed foods and what is in them, although I have not personally verified all those listed, it is enough to warrant making sure of what you eat before buying it. The list was originally found at: www.theisrealofgodrc.com/CUPL.html but the site isn't there anymore.

Did you know that gelatin is a colorless or slightly yellow, transparent, brittle protein formed by boiling the specially prepared skin, bones, and connective tissue of animals and used in foods, drugs, and photographic film. Gelatin is generally a pork product. It can also be derived from beef, sheep, clean and unclean fish, etc.?

Did you know that rennet is the inner lining of the fourth stomach of calves and other young ruminants, A dried extract made from the stomach lining of a ruminant, used in cheesemaking to curdle milk?

Rennet is in cheese, cheese products and snacks. Nacho cheese chips, cheez-its and other snack foods that are not necessarily advertised as 'cheese,' often have cheese in them. Many processed foods and soups have cheese in them.

Altoid mints contain gelatin

All gummi candies have gelatin

Kraft jello contains pork gelatin [all jello's contain animal gelatin unless otherwise indicated on the package]

Most marshmallow products [unless specified otherwise] contain gelatin. This usually includes rice krispies squares.

Hershey's amazin' fruit [gelatin]

Most of M&M Mars candy bars contain gelatin. This gelatin is beef based. [Mad cow disease and other animal-born diseases could be a consideration.]

Planters Cheese balls and curls contain pork/beef gelatin

Kellogg's frosted pop-tarts and pop-tarts pastry swirls contain beef gelatin

Pepperidge Farms gold fish crackers contain beef enzymes and ALL Pepperidge Farm cakes contain pork gelatin

Many of Sara Lee's pastries contain pork or beef gelatin. Their banana and carrot cakes contain pork.

All varieties of the Creme Savers candies contain flavor agents that are pork.

Most Nestle candies contain beef gelatin

Tootsie Roll junior mints contain pork and tootsie rolls contain beef and pork

All varieties of Mentos contain beef gelatin

Most Vitner Company cheese products contain pork enzymes

Clorets gum contains beef and pork

Wrigley Co. Extra Polar Ice gum contains gelatin [pork/beef]

Most Kellogg Co cereals contain beef gelatin

Marshmallow Froot Loops contain pork gelatin

Big Bowl Instant Oatmeal [apple/cinn, maple/br sug/variety pack] contains unclean fish gelatin

"I Can't Believe It's Not Butter"--these varieties only: Fat-Free, Light, Sweet Cream & Calcium contain beef/pork gelatin

Crystal Farms Process cheeses, Cheese Loaf singles, Hot Pepper cheeses have beef and pork in them

Edy's ice cream [these varieties only: Dreamery's Galactic Chocolate Swirl Ice Cream, Edy's Rocky Road have pork gelatin

Kraft Foods: Kraft singles [flavor enzymes--beef/pork]; Velveeta [flavor enzymes--beef/pork]

Most cheeses have beef products in them

Con Agra produces several Butterball products. These have pork in them: Butterball Turkey Bacon, Butterball Skinless Beef, and Butterball Turkey Hotdogs [the last two use pork casings]
Many casings for beef or turkey sausages are from the pig

Long John Silver [cheese used on sandwich is from pork enzymes]

Louis Rich has some products that contain pork--read the labels

Nestle products: Stouffer's Noodles Romanoff contain pork gelatin. Stouffer's Meal w/Cheese contain beef/pork enzymes. All other Stouffer's meals contain pork derivatives

The Turkey Store, Co. uses pork and non-pork casings [read the labels] The non-pork animal casings are labeled as collagen.

Some restaurant brands use pork in their casings of deli meats

All varieties of Swanson pot pies contain lard, pork

Great Starts Breakfast Entree contains pork

Swanson Frozen Entree Meals contain beef/pork

Campbell Soup Co:
Franco American pasta contains enzymes, beef/pork

Prego pasta sauces contain enzymes, beef/pork

Chicken Helper, Hamburger Helper, Tuna Helper ALL contain pork

Check all beans for pork or pork fat [labeled as 'shortening']

Kraft Macaroni and Cheese contains pork enzymes

All Ragu pasta sauces with cheese contain pork

All capsules, unless noted on the label, are made from gelatin [pork]

Flintstone vitamins [pork gelatin]

Bristol Meyers Theragram Vitamins [pork]

Beano [unclean fish gelatin]

GNC Multibite Plus Mineral and Calcium [beef]

Gelatin with the "K" symbol contains beef

Gelatin without the "K" symbol contains pork

These products from Mead Johnson Co. contain animal products: Tri-Vi-Sol [children's vitamin drops]--sheep; Poly-Vi-Sol [drops only]--sheep; Poly-Vi-Sol [tablets]--pork

Nature Sunshine: Herbosaurus Orchard [Lipase-pork]; Garden Essentials [Lipase-pork]; Multi-vitamins plus iron [chewable and liquid]--fish oil [mackerol and salmon]

Optimum Nutrition [all products] contain beef/pork

Proctor & Gamble: Crest Toothpaste [Baking Soda & Peroxide Whitening, Extra Whitening, MultiCare Plus Extra Whitening, Tarter Protection, Tarter Protection w/Baking Soda] pork/beef

Triple Protection Aqua Fresh Toothpaste [squeeze tube only] is ok. All others, including the pump, has beef/pork glycerin

Subway Restaurant wrap breads contain L-Cysteine
Ultimate Nutrition [Advanced Formula Prozyme contains beef gelatin]

Benadryl Allergy Ultra Tabs contain varied animals

Centrum vitamins contain beef/pork

Re: Additives to be aware of in our food items #31609
03/10/06 05:12 PM
03/10/06 05:12 PM
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Bill Wennell  Offline
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Augusta, KY
By the way, L-Cysteine (in the Subway wrap, for example) is usually made from human hair but could come from chicken feathers and cow horns.

http://www.albalagh.net/halal/col2.shtml
(This is a Muslim site, the "halal" is the same as the Jewish "kosher")

Here are some more, there are some in particular that SDAs need to see, like Kraft Macaroni & Cheese, has pork enzymes. Some may be repeats and I apologize for the formatting:
Fleming Companies-Best Yet Gelatin

Jel-Sert-Royal Gelatins

Kraft Foods-JELLO

Marshmallows-All Brands

McCormick-Bag Gravy; Bag Chili Sauces (Pork)

Minute Maid-100% Pink Grapefruit Juice (Cochineal – beetles)

Ocean Spray Juice-White Cranberry Peach (Canthaxanthin - ?)

Cole Bread-Frozen Bread Loaves (Pork)

Dominick’s-Fresh Bake Shop Products (Pork)

Jiffy Mix-Corn Bread mix (Lard-Pork)

King’s Hawaiian-King’s Hawaiian Bread (L-Cysteine)

Pillsbury-All can refrigerated biscuits (Pork)

Dominick’s-(All varieties w/ bacon)

Interstate Brands Co-Dolly Madison Cupcakes; Hostess Cupcakes & SnoBalls

Kellogg Company-Rice Krispies Treats Squares & Snak-ums Treat Krunch; Marshmallow Froot Loops;


Nabisco Food Group-Any product containing gelatin

Otis Spunkmeyer Co.-Bear Claws; Cinnamon Rolls; Danish (All Varieties)

Pepperidge Farm-Cakes (All Varieties)

Sara Lee-Pies: French Silk, Tropical Coconut Cream; Tangy Lemon Meringue; Banana Cake & Carrot Cake

Schulze & Burch-Aldi’s Baker’s Treat toaster pastries

Callard & Bowser Suchard, Inc.-Altoid Mints

Ferrara Pan-Gummy candies

Frito Lay-Grandma’s Homestyle Molasses Big Cookie; Ruffles Dips; Ruffles (the works)

Hersheys-Amazin’ Fruit; Good ‘n Fruity; Good ‘n Plenty; Jolly Rancher gummies

Jays-Oke-doke Cheese popcorn

Just Born-Peeps Marshmellow candy

Nabisco-Planters Cheese balls & cheese curls; Crème Savers candies

Nestle-Pixy Stix; Gummy sweetarts

Spangler Candy-Marshmallow peanuts

Tootsie Roll-Junior Mints; Tootsie Rolls

Vitner Co.-White Cheddar Popcorn; Cheese Twist; Cheese Chrunchy’s

Wabash-Pizzeria Pizza Chips

Warner Lambert-Clorets gum

Wrigley Co-Extra Polar Ice gum

Malt-o-meal-Marshmallow Mateys; Frosted mini-spooners; Golden Puffs

Big Bowl-Instant oatmeal: Apple & Cinnamon; Maple & Brown Sugar; Variety pack

Sovex Foods (Aldi’s)-Breakfast Best low-fat Granola (Unclean fish gelatin)

Best Foods-I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter: Fat-free; Light; Sweat cream & calcium

Crystal Farms-Process cheeses; Cheese loaf singles; Hot Pepper cheeses

Dole-Fruit ‘n gel bowls (Cochineal)

Edy’s Ice Cream-Dreamery’s Galactic Chocolate Swirl; Rocky Road

Horizon Organic-Parmesan cheese

Kraft-cheese singles; velveeta

Krogers-cheeses

Land O’Lakes-cheeses

Abbott Laboratories-Similac Lactose Free baby formula

Mead Johnson-Nutramigen hypoallergenic formula

Con Agra-Butterball skinless beef & turkey hotdogs (use pork casings)

Eckrich-Smoked beef sausage: Kielbasa Turkey sausage (use pork casings)

Long John Silver-Sandwich cheeses

Nestles -Stouffer’s Noodles Romanoff; All Meals with cheese

Oscar Meyer- All cheeses

The Turkey Store-Use pork casings except those listed as “collagen” (man-made casing)

Tony’s Pizza Co-Look for “L-Cysteine”

Vienna Beef Co-Blue labeled box (natural casing – pork)

Vlasic-Swanson Pot Pies & Frozen Entrée Meals; Great Starts Breakfast entrees

Borden Foods- Classico Italian Sausage flavored pasta sauce

Cambell’s-Franco American Pasta; Prego pasta sauces

General Mills- Chicken, Hamburger, & Tuna helpers

Glory Foods-Seasoned Black-eyed peas

Kraft-Macaroni & Cheese

Lipton- All products with gelatin

Ragu-Pasta sauces with cheese

AstraZeneca-Prilosec

Bayer Co-Flintstones vitamins

Botanic Health-Apple Cider Vinegar Plus capsules

Bristol Meyers -Theragram vitamins

Glaxo Smith Kline-Beano

GNC-All vitamins with gelatin coating

Great Lakes gelatin-Look for “k” (kosher) label for safety

Health from the Sun-All products in capsules

McNeil-Tylenol gel capsules

Mead Johnson-Children’s vitamin drops; Poly-vi-sol (tablets)

Natural Balance Co-Colon Clenz

Naturpharma-Spring Valley brand (with gelatin)

Nature Sunshine-Herbasauras Orchard; Garden Essentials

Novartis-Tavist Allergy

Optimum Nutrition-All products

Proctor & Gamble-Crest toothpaste: Baking Soda & Peroxide Whitening; Extra Whitening; Multicare Plus
Whitening; Tarter Protection; & Tarter Protection with Baking Soda

ProLab Nutrition-All products in capsules

Smith Kline Beecham-Triple Protection Aqua Fresh in Pumps

Subway-Wrap breads

Warner Lambert-Benadryl Allergy Ultra Tabs

Whitehall/Robbins-Centrum Vitamins & Advil Liqui-gels

canthaxanthin:
In nature, canthaxanthin (beta-carotene-4,4'dione) and astaxanthin (3, 3'-dihydroxy-a, beta-carotene- 4,4'dione) are naturally occurring carotenoids found in lobster carapaces, krill, shrimp shells, flamingo feathers, and red algae.

Re: Additives to be aware of in our food items #31610
03/26/06 01:13 AM
03/26/06 01:13 AM
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Bobby  Offline OP
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British Columbia
Wow!! How and where did you find out that pork was in so many products ?

Re: Additives to be aware of in our food items #31611
03/27/06 12:34 PM
03/27/06 12:34 PM
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Bill Wennell  Offline
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Augusta, KY
Bobby,

I am a Meat & Poultry Inspector for the US Department of Agriculture, and have been for the last 13 years. I am also a vegan vegetarian, which I have been for the last 6, a little after becoming a Seventh-day Adventist. So I make a special effort in the counsels on Diets and Foods area. The lists were done by a Messianic group, but the website is no longer there. It should be mentioned that this is really only the tip of the iceburg. We should be especially careful of processed foods anymore and live by the statement that we should only eat fruits, vegetables, nuts, & legumes made as naturally as possible.

Re: Additives to be aware of in our food items #31612
03/27/06 03:05 PM
03/27/06 03:05 PM
debbie  Offline
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Posts: 1,116
USA
I've been reading through this thread and want to thank you Bill for this long list!! Most things on it I don't eat, but I did find a couple of things such as Prego Speghetti sauce I will use occasionally. Not any more!!

Also thank you Bobby for all the information you have shared! I really learned from the things you said.

Our family has been and nearly is very close to being vegan. The reason I say "nearly" is because although we don't eat "out" very often, occasionally we do for special family birthdays. Also we eat at potlucks too at our church. And it can be difficult to stay vegan when invited to a church members home to eat. But at home, I try to cook more healthfully with less "store bought" junk...but this list Bill put on here will make me be even more careful THANKS!!

One of the things I noticed in some of the posts where foods were listed as being consummed was the lack of fruit. I also noticed someone saying they couldn't afford healthy foods but they could eat meat and chocolate. I think what we need to do is compare prices and maybe discontinue some favorite foods in order to have the money to buy more healthier types of foods. I agree totally with the person who said we need to get back to vegetables/fruits/grains and nuts.

One question: What do any of you think of the Veganaise mayonnaise? I've questioned it because it still has vinegar in it but aside from that, do you see any problem with it? What do you use for mayonnaise? If you make your own, could you share your recipe?

God bless all of you on here for sharing!

PS: I'm adding a note on here: what kind of milk substitute do you use? I have been using SILK but in looking at ingredients more carefully, and reading through the whole carton, I've noticed no where does it say it is vegan. And it does have "natural ingredients" listed...so I'm a little dubious of it. Has anyone on here ever made a fresh seseme milk (seems it would be full of calcium!!)...??? If so, please share recipes!

[ March 27, 2006, 11:46 AM: Message edited by: debbie ]

Re: Additives to be aware of in our food items #31613
03/28/06 04:20 AM
03/28/06 04:20 AM
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Here are the ingredients to my Prego Pasta Sauce:

Tomato puree (water, tomato paste)
Diced tomatoes in tomato juice
Corn syrup
Onions
Mushrooms
Garlic
Vegetable oil (corn and/or Cottonseed and/or canola)
Salt
Spices (basil,oregano,spice)
Citric Acid
Dehydrated parsley

Do you see anywhere on this list where a hidden ingredient could be? I'm not trying to find excuses to use the product, believe me! I grow my own garden and I'm making my own pasta sauce from now on--but I would like to know.

Thanks for any help you can give.

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