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Re: Samuel Alito
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11/04/05 02:42 PM
11/04/05 02:42 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Charlene Van Hook:
what does this scripture mean????
Amo 3:7
"Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."
It tells me that more than one prophet is involved. Do you have any ideas?
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Re: Samuel Alito
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11/04/05 03:02 PM
11/04/05 03:02 PM
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Darius the subject of this thread is Alito, why else would I post it?
I belong to a conservative church but it is not conservative in the way other churches are. We believe in the separation of church and state where as other denominations are moving towards a union of the two institutions. It should always raise concerns when a justice wants to move the two towards each other. Of course I believe that way because I agree with the SDA's interpretation of prophesy where as you only believe in such things after the fact. After the fact is too late.
Redfog
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Re: Samuel Alito
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11/04/05 03:04 PM
11/04/05 03:04 PM
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Yes,
Read ALL of Matt 24:
Here is a prophecy of much importance, there is a duel application, reaching from historical past to Present Truth.
Also John the [REVEALOR] deals with end time issues.
All major and minor prophets in the Bible were written more for last days then their present time.
And our modern day prophet Ellen White that has written for our present time -----all inspiration is for our admonition:
The Signs of the Times---- 01-13-98
" The prophets of God spoke less for their own time than for the ages to come, and especially for the generation that would live amid the last scenes of this earth's history. "Not unto themselves but unto us they did minister the things which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the Gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven, which things the angels desire to look into." "All these things happened unto them for
ensamples, and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come." The prophets and apostles meet and unite their witness, testifying of the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. The wonderful events in the history of the children of Israel are not to be lost sight of or ignored because of the lapse of time. They are jewels of
truth that have been placed in false settings. Christ came to redeem them from error, and to reset them in the framework of truth, that they might shine in their native purity and attractive loveliness. By Him they have been
made to give forth a brighter and more powerful luster than ever before."
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Re: Samuel Alito
#42794
11/04/05 07:19 PM
11/04/05 07:19 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Redfog:
Darius the subject of this thread is Alito, why else would I post it?
I belong to a conservative church but it is not conservative in the way other churches are. We believe in the separation of church and state where as other denominations are moving towards a union of the two institutions. It should always raise concerns when a justice wants to move the two towards each other. Of course I believe that way because I agree with the SDA's interpretation of prophesy where as you only believe in such things after the fact. After the fact is too late.
Redfog
YOu are not smart enough to know what I think. Stick with what I actually post; all of it. Not cull out what negates your conclusions.
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Re: Samuel Alito
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11/04/05 09:30 PM
11/04/05 09:30 PM
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I sense a tenseness in some of the posts here.
Let us be like Jesus Christ by being kind and loving in our posts.
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Re: Samuel Alito
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11/04/05 10:57 PM
11/04/05 10:57 PM
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Darius, I'm not sure where I was trying to ascertain what you think, please show me. If I offended you please accept my apologies. However it seems like many of your posts are somewhat combative in nature and I don't understand why. We're just trying to discuss something not argue over it.
To me there is little difference between a promise and prophesy. The 2nd Advent is both prophesied and it's a promise. The first coming was the same. End time events are promised us so that we will know the end is near but they are also prophesied. There are certain prophesies that I believe point to the papacy and the United States playing a large role in the end therefore I think it would be well to take notice of the changing political/religious landscape in the US. For the papacy to take a large role in the persecution of God's people they will need to have power and there is not much higher power, especially in regards to laws, than the US supreme court. Now if a person does not believe in the prophesies as the SDA church understands them then the nomination of Judge Alito would not mean anything from a religious standpoint.
Redfog
[ November 04, 2005, 09:08 PM: Message edited by: Redfog ]
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Re: Samuel Alito
#42797
11/05/05 08:06 PM
11/05/05 08:06 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Redfog:
To me there is little difference between a promise and prophesy. The 2nd Advent is both prophesied and it's a promise. The first coming was the same. End time events are promised us so that we will know the end is near but they are also prophesied. There are certain prophesies that I believe point to the papacy and the United States playing a large role in the end therefore I think it would be well to take notice of the changing political/religious landscape in the US. For the papacy to take a large role in the persecution of God's people they will need to have power and there is not much higher power, especially in regards to laws, than the US supreme court. Now if a person does not believe in the prophesies as the SDA church understands them then the nomination of Judge Alito would not mean anything from a religious standpoint.
Redfog
That was the same argument when JFK became the first Catholic in the White House. It backfired then. When symbolism is involved the track record is very spotty. It is that symbolism that makes the difference between a promise and a prophecy.
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Re: Samuel Alito
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11/05/05 11:54 PM
11/05/05 11:54 PM
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One difference between JFK's presidency and judge Alito is that a judge is appointed for life, a president at the most 8 years. I'm not making any predictions on this, I'm just saying we need to make note of it and be on guard. At some point in time, if you believe in the prophesies of the Bible as the SDA church understands them, the papacy and the US government will rise up and persecute Gods chosen people. It would seem logical that the more people the Catholic church has in positions of power the more likely that event will occur. Looking back in history is not a good indication of what the future holds. Because I believe that our church and Mrs. White have correctly interpreted prophesy, (either that or they are a fraud), I will continue to be on guard. And in the last few years anyone can see prophesy being fulfilled as the whole world gazes in wonder at the papacy, and the Catholic church has gained more and more power and prestige. More and more the US government has joined hands with the religious community, including the Catholic church. I don't think we as a church have fully comprehended how much things are changing. Indeed I've caught myself admiring John Paul and the work he did, I also watched with wonder at his funeral but was taken aback by seeing two former and one sitting president kneeling before his deceased body.
Redfog
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Re: Samuel Alito
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11/06/05 12:51 AM
11/06/05 12:51 AM
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He was the leader of a country. Things may be better if we spent more time putting our house in order instead of keeping our eyes on a man in Vatican City. ======= Removed quote of previous post. - Daryl ![[Smile]](images/icons/smile.gif) [ November 06, 2005, 06:29 PM: Message edited by: Daryl Fawcett ]
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Re: Samuel Alito
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11/06/05 02:11 AM
11/06/05 02:11 AM
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Darius what do you mean by the words "our house"? Is this a reference to the individual? If so I could not agree with you more. The man we need to keep our eyes on is the Man from Galilee. However we must never ignore or disregard Biblical prophesy, to do so is dereliction of the duty we have to ourselves and our fellow man.
Redfog
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